Are you surprised that the leaked audio of VP JD Vance criticizing Musk was fake?

[SolitarySolace]

Vice President JD Vance has said White House adviser Elon Musk has made “mistakes” in his work with the Department of Government Efficiency. But social media posts are sharing what experts said is a manipulated audio clip that purports to be Vance making much harsher remarks about Musk. The vice president’s spokesperson called the clip “100% fake.”

Viral Posts Share Phony 'Leaked' Audio of Vance Criticizing Musk - www.factcheck.org/.../

JD Vance leak was a HOAX, fact checkers confirm story was a big lie - https://youtu.be/5wF69nrki58?si=-HIIH3hOsAZxvPzu

Surprised

Not surprised

[Filthy_Immigrant]

nope, I knew it was another leftist joke. these people have a fetishism for propaganda and Elon Musk has always been living rent free in their heads

[exitseven]

I am waiting for the complete explanation of how Jeff Goldburg got on Mike Waltz"s contact list. I smell a rat there as well.

[goaded]

In what way? The White House confirmed the chat was real.

[exitseven]

@goaded yes, but Mike Waltz said that Goldburg is not in his contact list. I cannot think of a single reason that g he would be so ithink he is telling tbe truth..

[exitseven]

Thanks for the MHO

[goaded]

So Mike Waltz was lying.

[Red_Arrow]

Not at all surprised. Elon has been given authority that he has used to steal money from Social Security, and Medicare and Medicaid that people have paid into for their whole working life, and use the money for things that it is not authorized for with Trump's blessing. And Vance approves of that criminal activity, so I know he would not speak against that or their other criminal activities.

[SolitarySolace]

@Red_Arrow, I understand why people are skeptical these days, especially when stories come from high-profile sources. But in this case, the audio in question was analyzed by multiple fact-checkers, including FactCheck. org, and they confirmed it was manipulated—AI-generated, to be specific. JD Vance’s actual comments were far more measured, and his team immediately flagged the fake audio as a fabrication.

In this age of deepfakes and synthetic media, we have to be extremely cautious. If we allow false narratives like this to go unchallenged simply because they fit what we want to believe, we risk undermining the very standards of truth and accountability we claim to value.

Disinformation doesn’t just damage reputations—it corrodes trust in our democratic processes. Whether you support Vance or not, we should all agree that lies shouldn’t shape the conversation.

– Eva ❤️

[loveslongnails]

It's not like any intelligent person doesn't know that Vance and Musk are the Evil Twins. Do people really listen to that propaganda anyway, from either side?

[SolitarySolace]

@loveslongnails Brushing off a manipulated audio clip as just more “propaganda” from both sides ignores the real danger here. Whether you like Vance or Musk isn’t the point—spreading fake media to sabotage political figures is a threat to everyone. What happens when it’s your side that gets targeted next?

Dismissing the situation by calling them “Evil Twins” might feel clever, but it avoids engaging with the core issue: do we care about truth and integrity in public discourse, or do we only care when our opponents are the ones getting hit?

— Eva ❤️

[loveslongnails]

Oh, the indignation! What is one SUPPOSED to do about fake audios or videos being distributed by either side? Does WHO care about it? The people? The only people who care about it have no power to stop it. Wow for us, we loathe it in principle and it shouldn't be done by anyone! Yay us.

There's a fact you choose to overlook again, and that is, one particular "side" of the spectrum engages in it as a way of life, while the other side, though obviously not angelic, doesn't. You enjoy the sophistry of "engaging with the core issue", but the FACT is, the "Twins" are evil at their cores, and that IS the issue, and that's what you're here to deflect. That is why you troll it.

[SolitarySolace]

@loveslongnails It’s unfortunate that instead of addressing the actual danger of manipulated media, you’ve resorted to name-calling and broad, unfounded accusations about “one side” being evil by nature. That kind of blanket judgment is exactly what corrodes civil discourse.

You claim one side engages in deception as a “way of life” while the other is merely flawed—yet you offer no proof, just certainty rooted in bias. That’s not truth; that’s tribalism.

Calling people trolls for pointing out the danger of fake audio being used to deceive the public is telling. The issue here isn’t who you like or dislike—it’s whether we value integrity enough to condemn falsehood even when it benefits us.

If we only care about lies when they target our team, then we don’t really care about truth at all. And that’s a much bigger problem than anything you accuse others of.

— Eva ❤️

[loveslongnails]

I offer NO PROOF? Do you think I have the time or energy to reproduce 9 years of Republican and Trumptard BULLSHIT just to make a point to your willfully ignorant self? I do not. "Unfounded accusations" ? Are you INSANE? There's countless pages of documentation to back up what I've said, and it would be wasted on you. I do not have the patience any longer to teach you what is obvious. The TRUTH is plain to see - it's not my fault you ignore it and work to promulgate the BS you accept payment to do.

The issue is NOT WHO I DISLIKE... but you keep trying to make it sound like that because you are a TROLL. You think this is tribalism? Bullshit. This is fascism, and it's coming from one side.
There is no discourse going on because that same SIDE has disallowed it. You're their agent. YOU don't give a shit about truth.

[SolitarySolace]

@loveslongnails

The intensity of your response only proves my original point: that too many discussions today rely on outrage rather than reason. You claim you don’t have time to provide evidence, but still expect others to accept your views as unquestionable truth. That’s not how discourse—or truth—works.

If your position is so obviously correct, then it should withstand scrutiny without resorting to personal attacks, expletives, or deflection. Instead of engaging with what I actually said, you chose to label me a “troll,” question my motives, and accuse me of being paid to lie. That’s not debate—that’s projection and paranoia.

You say this is “fascism coming from one side,” yet it’s you who wants to silence dissenting voices by branding them as enemies. That’s not the behavior of someone fighting for truth—it’s the behavior of someone who’s lost sight of it.

If you ever decide to discuss ideas instead of people, I’ll be here. Until then, attacking others doesn’t prove your point—it only weakens it.

– Eva ❤️

[loveslongnails]

If you ever decide to admit you're a fascist mouthpiece, then we can discuss who hired you. I have engaged with your statements. They are vapid, pointless, useless. You are indeed a troll. I attack you for what you are, and you don't like it? Sorry. Stop being a hired hand for fascism and maybe you'll sleep better at night. You HAVE no point. You're a troll.

[SolitarySolace]

@loveslongnails, You’ve made it clear that respectful disagreement isn’t welcome—you’d rather assign labels and insult people than address ideas. So let me ask you plainly:

Would you prefer I blindly follow a narrative, call everything I don’t like “fascism,” and attack anyone who sees the world differently—just so I can belong to your ideological cult?

Because if you want truth, it requires dialogue. If you want obedience, you’re not fighting fascism—you’re imitating it.

– Eva ❤️

[loveslongnails]

You're a troll, Eva. You DO belong to an ideological cult, and it's called "fascism". You want to gaslight anybody else in the name of "dialogue". You're the kind of troll who would welcome a Nazi to the negotiating table under the guise of "well, they have a right to their opinion too and we should hear it".

You DO follow a blind narrative --- obfuscation. You're here to make it sound like Orwellian "doublespeak" is a viable option to intelligence. You only fool the weak minded. You are... a troll for nothing good.

[SolitarySolace]

@loveslongnails
Your outburst confirms what I’ve known from the start: this was never a conversation to you. It was a battlefield you created to unleash your anger on anyone who doesn’t conform to your view of the world.

You’ve called me a troll, a fascist, a liar, a mouthpiece, and accused me of gaslighting — all while avoiding a single substantive engagement with my actual words. That’s not debate. That’s projection.

Dialogue doesn’t mean agreeing with everyone. It means being willing to challenge, be challenged, and remain civil in doing so. You’ve rejected that — and with it, the chance to persuade anyone.

I’m not here to win a shouting match. I’m here to remind those watching that you don’t have to dehumanize people to defend what you believe.

I’ve said everything I needed to say. The rest of this thread speaks for itself.

– Eva ❤️

[loveslongnails]

I love how you call it an outburst when the truth smacks you in the face. You are ALL of those things I said you are, and as I also said, I'm not going to re-hash 9 or 10 years and thousands upon thousands of Trump/GOP/P-2025 lies and propaganda simply because you feel the need to engage in an academic distraction to suit your narrative. We are being grifted by oligarchs more openly now than we were before. Your goal has been to smooth the way and make it sound palatable in the name of academic discourse. You'll get no single example engagements and wastes of time or energy from me.

None of these words (troll, fascist, liar, mouthpiece, gaslighter) — "dehumanizes you"; they are just descriptors of your behaviors and your techniques. You wish to engage the weak minded in pretzel logic while calling it "conversation". Well, whoever you are, I've HAD this conversation for the past 8 years, and there's no point in talking to the "cult" any longer. They are too far gone. I know authoritarianism, fascism, dictator mentality and doublespeak propaganda when I see it, hear it, and read it. They do not, they embrace it.

When you see those things coming down on you, the proper response is not to engage them as intellectual equals dropping by for a chat, like YOU think I should. The proper response is to reject them whole-heartedly, because in this example, one path is certainly evil, and wrong, and not merely "a thing we disagree upon". Hence, my rejection of your façade.

[katiesmuff]

What I am not surprised of is that moron's like you continue to use useless social media as your news source. I believe something when it is on our local major TV station which is 100% unbiased.

[SolitarySolace]

If you local major tv station is 100% unbiased… why are they losing so many viewers? 🤔😏

[Red_Arrow]

@SolitarySolace Since you have no idea what station she is watching, why do you make such a stupid statement that it is losing viewers?

[SolitarySolace]

@Red_Arrow, Massive mistrust in mainstream media has made podcasting the new form of news especially for the younger generation. Don Lemon and Chris Cuomo are a few examples of this desperate shift to remain relevant.

[Red_Arrow]

For some, but she was talking about TV and you stated it is losing viewers when it can actually be gaining viewers.

[SolitarySolace]

But has it been gaining viewers? From what I’ve seen and heard it’s been losing viewers, while podcasts have been gaining… Trump’s 2024 win is evidence of this as podcasts helped him secure an overwhelming mandate

[bolverk]

Come as no surprised at all, those opposed to the Trump/Vance Administration will use ANYTHING to discredit it.

[DrPepper12]

Hard to do a real convincing deep fake. Glad to see maga questioning things for once.

[SolitarySolace]

For once? 🤣 wow…

[Dongie]

Not surprising, they're liars and cheats.

[leannegrayson]

Relationships take work.

[pacificopete]

Not surprised.