So what happens later when the Muslim population takes on Feminism and Gay Pride in the UK/Germany/Sweden/France/Belgium?

[Jersey2]

France - Picture by the BBC

Two large seemingly opposing societal forces are growing and pushing out the old status quo of Christian families. What will happen? Muslims want to beat women, force them to where the burqa or hijab, and create society under Sharia Law which is opposite of what Feminists want. In addition, Muslims want gays out or dead so LGBTQ+ Pride Parades, gay bars, apps like Grindr would be in the crosshairs.

Will this be a train wreck? Will it be defused? If so how? What is the timing of it? 5 years from now, 10 years from now. What will it look like after the collision of these two societal forces?

[Effably]

Sweden. It is incredoblt far away if at all feasible within a few hundred years.

Sweden has seen a tremendous increase. But in practice we have less than 200 000 practicing muslims in Sweden and roughly 500 000 who identify as Muslim. This means less than 2% practicing and less than 5% identifying.

For what you are suggesting numbers beyond 50%, since most muslims in Sweden do not support these ideas, would be needed. It is simply unreasonable.

In the offchance that it still somehow happens, women's rights are protected by our fundamental laws. Meaning they are require at a minimum two elections to change.

Beyond even that, we are a Monarchy - a kingdom. Our King used to have an absolute veto but, acting like an actual leader, did not use it when we voted away his veto and political influence. However. The King despite having no authority to change any laws still has the duty to accept new governments and while unprecedented, can in theory refuse.

Our current king would never allow it. Our future queen will never allow it. Our future-future Queen is also pretty darn unlikely to allow it.

This is, at best fearmongering and at worst an attempt to play people who would otherwise get along against each other.

[Jersey2]

Perhaps I am confusing it with gang violence which is imported, is it not?

“ In 2024, Sweden recorded **129 confirmed explosive attacks**, according to police figures cited by The Local. This represents a decrease from the 149 bombings in 2023, but it remains significantly higher than the 90 detonations in 2022. Another source, Dragonfly Intelligence, reports a higher figure of **317 gang-related explosions** in 2024, indicating a sharp rise from the 149 incidents in 2023. However, this discrepancy may stem from differing definitions of "explosions" or inclusion of attempts and preparations. A post on X by @PeterSweden7 also claims **129 bombings** in 2024, aligning with the police data.[](https://www. thelocal. se/20250131/whats-behind-the-latest-spate-of-bombings-in-sweden)[](https://www. thelocal. se/20250131/whats-behind-the-latest-spate-of-bombings-in-sweden)[](https://dragonflyintelligence. com/news/sweden-gang-bombings-and-shootings-increasing/)

Given the variation, the most consistent figure from official sources is **129 confirmed bombings**, though gang-related incidents may push broader counts higher.[](https://www. thelocal. se/20250131/whats-behind-the-latest-spate-of-bombings-in-sweden)”

There were no bombings in the year 2000 as an example. Plus stabbing, rapes, murders of all type. I can dig up the statistics from AI if your government hides them from you. by the way, I learned all this from Swedes.

[Effably]

Crime and amount of votes are two very different topics.

First some simple facts though.
PeterSweden is a known holocaust denier, extreme far right activist, nazi and generally a horrible source for anything.

However the trend is absolutely true. It should be further noted that almost all these reports are as you sort of pointed out between a a few gangs that have been killing each other. Horrible, absolutely, but we are talking less than 100 individuals in the entire nation.

It is of course true that we measure crimes a little differently which inflates our numbers. Often counting both the incident and each perpetrator and victim whereas most countries only count the incident.

But you are right in that immigration has been tied to an increase in crime here. Its an awkward truth but a truth all the same. However it is a failure to integrate, not a ethnicity, that is causing issues. And so the real problem, while not absolving anyone of any crime they have committed of course, is still to adjust a governmental approach and system.

I would also caution you to look extra closely on your sources. All Scandinavian countries suffer regular smearcampaigns whenever the US discusses welfare for example. But sure, increase in crime has happened. Absolutely correlates to religious and cultural friction.

I do not really need any statistics on this as I have access to classified information myself.

[Jersey2]

Fair points. I hope you guys do well in the future. Many in the US have concern for you.

[contentious]

If you can pick up some dark skinned Pakistanis from the India-Pakistan scuffle then they'll probably have a lot of butt sex.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/jtTYxxmVpvA

[Gwendoline]

I remember the shock years ago in England from very liberal and lbtq people after they protested against Israel and counter protested the protests about the gang rapes when Muslims were protesting lgbtq lessons being taught in schools.

[Jersey2]

It’s a head turner for sure.

[DryGermanGuy]

We are increasingly deporting Muslims (Middle East, North Africa) and many elderly are returning to their home country (Turkey), so that won’t be a problem in the future.

[Jersey2]

Are you speaking about Germany or the UK. Which do you claim today?

[DryGermanGuy]

You obviously have me confused with somebody else, as I never claimed to be from the UK. My country is in my username.

[Jersey2]

That’s what I thought about your user name. However, you told me you were British and living in Germany. I am pretty sure that was you because again because the user name and how confusing it was.

[DryGermanGuy]

Nope and nope. That sounds however like the member @goaded.

[Jersey2]

I see.

[Syntosi]

*yawn* Nice try at fearmongering. Call me when the Muslims takes over the world or whatever keeps you up at night.

[Jersey2]

Yeah, I’ve worked with guys like you. When eventually they ended up literally working for me I didn’t know what to do with them as they were near worthless. I learned through my career to just fire them. But I doubt that you hold a serious job so you get tolerated but not promoted. Try to be more data focused.

[Syntosi]

More data focused you say? Well I have to say, you sure are middle manager material considering your complete lack of understanding of what you are supposed to interact with. The data completely contradicts what you claim and the system does not actually produce the results you expect. You are the kind of person that rearranges the deckchairs on Titanic and feel like you are accomplishing something.

People have been fearmongering like you for decades and the "end of the world" is always like 5 years away. Just give it up dude, you dont know jack shit.

[Jersey2]

Executive, thank you. I managed $3B on 6 continents and would have fired you for sure.

[Syntosi]

That just feeds into my theory that too many middle managers rise up the corporate ladders and destroy society with your stupid beliefs on how the world works. Thanks for becoming exhibit A

[Jersey2]

I rose because I delivered about $100,000,000 a year give 0r take a bit. No one could do that so I was golden. No one gives a shit about theories, it is all about the rubber meeting the road. We you ever requested to come and lead major work in Japan, China, Australia, Chile, South Africa, all over Europe? Fuck no, no one flew you into town to drive programs… AND these were the customers of my company and it was done as a favor to them. Nobody is calling for you.

[Syntosi]

Oh, spare me your masturbation session Mr. Middle Manager. We are living in a world where a failure of a businessman who regularly do impressive things such as bankrupt casinos can somehow rise to become a billionaire and president of USA. I am sure there are plenty of people who would find your supposed accomplishments very impressive, I am not one of them.

The state of capitalism in the west is a fucking joke and its being run into the ground by a bunch of toddlers in suits. Congratulations, you are just one among many. Let me guess, you, as a man of "data" is ecstatic about the future with Trump as president? I am sure all of these talks from economists about how we have magically turned a good growth year into a recession in about 100 days is just them being jealous.

After all, no one gives a shit about theories, it is all about the rubber meeting the road; and oh boy does Trump look like he nailed it am I right? I mean, the way he landed on his face so effortlessly must have been intentional right? Its not like he is just as much of a failure as you are... right?

[Jersey2]

But… you’re no one… who has done nothing… no one cares what you think which is the beauty of money, it keeps score so we know who has a track record and who just has hot air. At 34 I left a corporate role top 5 Fortune 500 for an another F500 that led to an amazing global career. I had 3 kids, wife who was a stay at home mom, large house, cars, nice vacations, and a bright future. The kids all have Masters now and great careers… the older 2 just each had 6 bedroom houses built in 2023. They are all younger than you. Are you just slinging shit in the internet or are type at least keeping pace?

[Syntosi]

Oh, I have done plenty of things. Just nothing for you and I would like to keep it that way. I also find it hilarious that you think money is somehow a measurement of some kind of merit or success. Guess what? I guess I am successful then! After all, I got enough money that I dont have to work another day in my life. Shame, huh? In your mind I was living a sad and empty life between job and sleep when in reality I have so much free time that I can freely spend some here laughing at how ridiculous you are.

[Jersey2]

Yes, time is a luxury. I don’t regret my time being productive but I am loving what is called the good life. Having built it on my own is the best part. You are indeed living a sad empty life I suspect regardless. Tell me, where did you make your money. I have been very upfront about mine… because I am proud of it. Inherit it? Fall into something good? Make it up in your mind?

[Syntosi]

Meh. That just sounds like cope. I got my money from inheritance and some basic investments. When you already have money its childishly easy to get more. And yes, it does sound like you are living a fairly sad life judging from how you view the world. I would not want to be you.

[Jersey2]

Your opinions on various levels of management do not carry weight as you have never done anything yourself. You haven’t taken risk, worked hard, created value or have been selected by others to advance and lead. You are a parasite on the economy, a vestige of another man’s efforts. You could not achieve what he or I have and yet think your opinion matters when your judgement hasn’t been tested in the same way. He and I are the few who conquered the business world, you’re just a twat with the residual money due to being the product of his orgasm. Now that’s sad.

[Syntosi]

Pfft! Ahaha! Is this the sorry excuse for a justification that you tell yourself to justify your own job? Oh please, nobody "earns" a billion dollars and yet there are over 3000 of them today. I know how the "business" world works. I got friends and family in the same, or even a higher position than you. Dont insult me by claiming that this is about merit. I KNOW its not.

I have been offered plenty of high-ranking positions in banks, insurance companies and more just because I knew the right people. You think I got the merit to be given those opportunities completely offhand? I am educated in IT, not finance. And yet they see no problem with giving me leadership positions in famous institutions because they know that it never mattered if I had the supposed qualifications. The only thing that matters is that I have the connections and social networks.

But sure. Continue to pretend that your at the top of a meritocracy rather than in a system that rewards failure with promotions.

[Jersey2]

You haven’t survived in an F500 and climbed up without connections. And even if you did land there via friends doesn’t mean you would survive. And further, it doesn’t mean your ideas are good or that people would follow you. So you “know” how the business world works at 34 and never having actually done it. I watched the Olympics and “know” how events work and I guess I could beat those idiots too given how good I am in my own mind 😂. / s. That is what you sound like…. AND you believe it. You haven’t done the climb and survived and excelled. You are the guy that would get laughed at AND here is a clue for you, the guy who brought you in would lose respect to, not just him in you but from his competitors at work… and make no mistake about it, they are all competing all the time and you would be an embarrassment and a weakness for that person.

Anyway, you are a joke. Enough now.

You are literally Rayburn from the past Olympics :D

[Syntosi]

Sure, I have not survived in a F500 nor climbed without connections. But I could have gotten into a F500 if I wanted to and most people in leadership positions inside F500 got there through connections rather than merit. You are just undermining your own position here by highlighting the fact that this is not a meritocracy. Succeeding in business is not a matter of being better, working harder or being smarter than everyone else.

But sure. Keep going thinking you are better while you get pampered by a system set up to hand you participation awards. I am sure everyone is so proud of you for being such a good boy.

[Jersey2]

There are a lot of Elon Musk’s out there and no way you could survive that environment. You even think your connections would risk their reputation on you. Perhaps they would stuff you in a corner but you wouldn’t lead as you don’t know how.

One thing I have learned that I didn’t know before is that senior leaders smile and are nice but they have very sharp teeth and will bite you in half with ease. I honestly don’t think you know who you are dealing with in those connections. I know that was a surprise to me how nice they can be but also how incredibly ruthless. Trump would be a good example of this although he shows his ruthless side far more than the norm but they are all the same behind closed doors. At best you would be a fall guy. SMH, you don’t understand.

And my first thought is, would you even be able to put in the hours such as the early morning meetings and dinner meetings followed by a whole day of decision making… decisions that you will be responsible for.

[Syntosi]

Wow, do you hear yourself talk? "There are a lot of Elon Musk's out there"... Elon Musk is the perfect example of someone who just used money and connections to succeed in life. He never actually worked for it. He bought corporations or partnered with people who actually DID have a vision and competence to make up for his own total lack of business savvy. I actually laughed when I read that you connected him to the word "leadership" but I guess that is fairly common for people like you to worship Elon.

Thanks for proving my point that you are just another middle manager in a position you should not be in. And no, people like Trump are not ruthless, they are mentally damaged. Usually its narcissism or some form of psychopathy. Its very telling that the people Trump "bites in half with ease" are the people supporting him, the ones who are easy to betray for a buck. Almost every person that has ever worked with Trump has been betrayed by Trump and thrown under the bus. This is not a matter of being good at business, but a personality flaw.

You clearly do not have any actual leadership capabilities and your role-models are nepo babies. But to go back to what you said earlier: "no one cares what you think which is the beauty of money, it keeps score so we know who has a track record and who just has hot air." Well, I have money. What does that make me in your silly worldview?

[Jersey2]

Wow. That’s a lot. First, I haven’t worked in years. I live off of investments now as I made more than I will need. I will die with money and now am doing other things than work… but it was awesome at the time and hard to let go of. Many do it because it is a game and a challenge but you never dared. Money is easy through investments and I can see why you don’t respect it when it comes like that. You seem oddly fascinated with “middle managers”. I guess you picked that up somewhere and think it’s insightful or cool. Whatever. You don’t know anything about them yourself but they were my staff. Good people. If they could have been eliminated they would have been which is just how it is. But you wouldn’t be at their level which is the funny thing. You really are a joke as I said before.

You can’t mock Musk when you have done nothing yourself. He already created PayPal and sold it by your age. He has Tesla that people said would fail back in 2017-18 and he slept at the plant to get it right. Falcon 9 is the workhorse of the space industry and Starship is going to be another game changer. Not to mention Starlink. He has done more than you could in a million lifetimes. And Trump too. He is the F’ing President… Again. Face it, you said he couldn’t win didn’t you. Yeah, you’re such a loser. A “never was” who dares to critique those who do. 34 and never in the game, never tested, no family of your own just a keyboard. 34 is too late to jump in so relax skippy. But you could take some of your money and show Elon what you can do :D yeah right.

Now, have your last spiteful words and we will end this conversation.

[Syntosi]

Here we go again. Musk did not create PayPal. They literally kicked Elon from the company because he was a worthless piece of shit. Elon bought Tesla and his biggest contribution was the "Cyber Truck" which has been a massive failure combined with his public appearances which has fundamentally damaged the brand name. Also, Tesla was kept successful by government assistance, namely by selling carbon credits to other businesses. In fact, I dont even think they have made a profit on any of their car sales at this point. Its all been pumping their stock price and living off government assistance which in my opinion makes them less of a car company and more of a scam but thats just me.

Same with SpaceX. Elon did not make that company and all they have done is take government money and have NASA engineers and scientists do all the job for them.

And you worship these failures? You admire their NON contributions to society? They are parasites that stands between the people who actually do the jobs and the people who pays out money. No wonder why you look up to them.

And lets not forget Donald Trump. Mr Bankruptcy himself. I think he has failed around 15 businesses by himself at this point at least by my count? Sure, he managed to mostly escape accountability during the bankruptcies if you want to call that being a "successful businessman" but you know what I would consider more impressive than 15 bankrupt companies? 15 healthy companies. Even if he just sold them that would still be more impressive than running them into bankruptcy.

These are your heroes. These are the people you look up to. Man, your world is pathetic.

[jshm2]

The country will be better.

Christians ruined everything, Muslims and Jews are just giving it all back.

[Jersey2]

Ah, how so? Care to elaborate or was that just meant to be incendiary?

[Avicenna]

We already know what Muslims will do to the leftist crazies- exactly what they do to them in Muslim-majority countries.

[Twalli]

Most Muslims don't see the need to impose Sharia Law. They're quite happy practicing their religion under the laws of the nation they live in. a

[Sal_Monella]

The EU will be supplanted by a Caliphate in under 20 years. Europe is surrendering to communism and Islam.

[seeyounexttuesday]

Europe is doomed.

[Jersey2]

I have my concerns.