MSNBC "The president got pantsed." Tariffs drop to 30%. Female reporters smile in embarassed fashion. Is this our integrity now?

[Caughtulookin]

[David318578]

The US dropped the tariffs down to 30% and China dropped its tariffs down to 10% this is just a temporary drop so they both can work out a more permanent deal.

MSNBC is a joke

[Syntosi]

You do understand how a temporary drop is worse right?

[David318578]

@Syntosi it's not worse, the tariffs where always a bargaining tool for better trade deals. When both countries agree to lessen the tariffs, it's a sign of good faith that they are ready to have a productive start to the negotiations.

[Syntosi]

First of all, its a temporary drop. It does not mean that the negotiations has gotten anywhere and you have let up the pressure that you could have used in negotiations. Secondly, for the businesses affected the 90 days pause means the market is uncertain which damages the economy.

You get all the bad things without any of the benefits.

[David318578]

@Syntosi it actually does mean the negotiations have gotten somewhere, otherwise there is no need to drop the tariffs at all.
I'm assuming by your replies you have never been apart of any large scale deals.

[Syntosi]

China literally said on day 1 that they would not negotiate with these tariffs on. The negotiations has literally not even started yet.

Also, if you want to talk about "large scale deals" then you should also realize that it takes years if not a decade+ to negotiate an actual trade deal between nations. Do you think Trump would have the time to even negotiate one of them before his presidency is up?

[David318578]

@Syntosi so that's a yes you have never been a part of a large deal before, and also saying a trade deal would take decades is absurd. You know Trump did a trade deal with Mexico and Canada in 2020 during his first term

[Syntosi]

What is absurd is that you think negotiations between nations are quick. They are not. Also the trade deal in 2020 was just an update of the already existing NAFTA deal that was made in 1994 and had been in the works since the 1980's.

[Caughtulookin]

Now he has a deal with Saudi Arabia. Im so happy i have faith in Trump. Its going to make my retirement so much easier. I was worried a little that my retirement was going to be delayed.

[David318578]

@Caughtulookin must be a mistake @Syntosi said it takes a decade for deals to get done! Lol

[Syntosi]

@David318578
You would be correct. What Trump signed with Saudi Arabia was not a trade deal. Just like how the agreement with the UK was not a trade deal either.

[David318578]

@Syntosi lol so we did not sign a deal to trade goods and services?
So what was this deal that was signed and what are we giving them and what are we getting.. then tell my why that's not a "trade deal"

[Syntosi]

Ah, I see where the confusion is. You confused a child going to the store to buy candy for a bilateral or multilateral trade agreement that dictates every aspect of economic interactions between two or more nations. Easy mistake to make.

[David318578]

@Syntosi no I asked you what we are giving and what we are getting and why you think that's not a trade agreement.

If you don't know or understand then you probably should be asking questions about the topic rather then giving options

[Syntosi]

Yes. That is not a "trade deal" in this context. A trade deal between nation is not a transaction where you give someone something and get something in return like the exchange you are talking about which is a glorified weapons sale.

A trade deal in national terms is an agreement on how trade is exchanged between the nations. Things like if and how tariffs are paid, what ports of entry that can be used, laws that needs to be changed to align such as quality standards and enforcement etc..

Did you honestly think a trade deal is just a business exchange? Really? Wow..

[exitseven]

I guess you are the only one that saw this. Nobody else watches MSNBC.

[Caughtulookin]

It was on the top of my cell phone news feed. I dont watch television. I grew tired of uneducated model manaqins spreading false information. They spout off wrong vocabulary making it obvious.

[exitseven]

Thanks for the MHO😎

[seeyounexttuesday]

PMSNBC's ratings are in the toilet. They're desperate for attention.

[Anonymous]

Trump is weak and pathetic.

[DrPepper12]

MSNBC leans left. What did you expect?