I had a conversation with a woman on here who said 22 year old women are still teenagers and need lot of male attention so a 52 year old man would use them and manipulate them.
I thought it was ridiculous, but what do others think?
Yes that’s ridiculous , because age doesn’t define someone’s’ character and personality, and 22 is not a teenager, whatsoever , unless that 22 year old has a brain of a 12 year old which sadly can happen if they were born that way , but I highly doubt that’s the reason but it could be , shit I became a Dad at 23 years old and did what I had to do to raise my child and i had my baby with an older girl that is 4 years older than me , and she became my wife So Age has nothing to do with chemistry and connection and attraction , so clearly she is clueless. People that hold age as a deciding factor are just limiting themselves from Someone that could actually be amazing for them. My wife and I were happily Married with kids’ for a long ass time Why I really don’t hold age as a deciding factor , even if my wife had a bigger age gap it wouldn’t stop me from being with her , so that woman doesn’t have common sense whatsoever. Age doesn’t define maturity and respectfulness , I have dated younger girls’ that were maturer than girls’ my age , so age really means shit in my opinion , as long as she is legal age of consent is all that matters to me , people need to shut their mouths and worry about themselves. I know a bunch of age gap couples that are happy as can be , that have been together for a long ass time Happy as can be so who are we to judge? , So fuck what other people think or say about someone else’s’ relationship , they don’t know shit about it. I’m sorry you can’t help who you fall in love with , Look at all These famous celebrities that are dating girls’ under legal age of consent , but that’s ok because they are celebrities with money. but someone that isn’t a celebrity gets treated like shit and called a pedophile? Sadly We live in a judgmental hypocritical world and that’s why this society is beyond fucked up if no one is being forced or hurt in a relationship , people need to shut their fucking mouths. Me personally just doesn’t give 2 shits about what other people think or say when it comes down to my relationship with a girl that rocks my world. Whether she is older or Younger than me , our chemistry and connection and attraction for each other is all that matters. If you don’t like age gap relationships then limit yourself , that’s your choice and your decision not everyone else’s’ period… Also do you think pedophilia is wrong? To me it is to a certain extent. Mainly because not every country h as the same laws of consent , So who is right or wrong? Just because a rich celebrity can pay parents off for dating their underaged daughter that’s all of a sudden ok? Cracks me up , so basically having money makes everything ok? I just read this whole article on pedophiles’ and shockingly i kind of feel bad for some of these pedophiles because their brain wasn’t developed correctly , there are 45 year old pedophiles that have the brain of a 15 year old , which is why they connect with a younger girl and want to be with a younger girl or boy? Think about that for a second because shockingly it’s true. They were born that way , and sadly they don’t know any better. I kind of feel bad for them if you think about it , the only thing that is stopping these relationships is age of consent , if we didn’t have age of consent people probably wouldn’t be flipping out about this shit whatsoever. Who was that female country singer , Loretta Lyn who was very famous , she was 15 dating an older guy that knocked her up a bunch of times , people made comments and remarks but they still loved her music and made movies about her , But that’s alright? This society is so regarded
22 is an adult. If you are too immature to deal with other adults then your parents did a poor job at raising you.
I disagree that a 22 year old woman is like a teenager. Some may be immature, but 22 is not 18 or 19. At 18 or so, you are just graduating from HS. At 22, ideally, you are either just graduating from college or have been out in the work world for a few years and likely not living at home with your parents anymore. It makes a huge difference. And women (or men) of any age can be manipulated it they allow it. I mean you could put the shoe on the other foot and say a 22 year old woman could manipulate a 52 year old man. I can and does happen.
22 year olds still live at home, at least here in the UK
I'm not getting your point. Do all 22 year olds live at home in the UK? More and more adult children aren't moving out here is the US anymore either bc of how expensive everything has gotten. Or they move out and move back bc they can't make it financially on their own.
Most live at home I think
I don't see the relevance of it to sex
They're not teenagers, but technically it's possible for a much more mature person (like 10-15+ years older than) to take advantage of someone in their early 20's. Although it's also very possible and more likely that the much younger woman is taking advantage of the 50 year old guy.
I agree, it's also likely a man her age or few years older would take advantage of her the same way
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I disagree with that assertion. My cousin and i recently had a similar disagreement.
To begin, they’re both consenting adults. It’s actually more likely that a young woman is manipulating a lonely old man for his money and other resources as the other way around. It’s a relationship as old as time itself because it works. Male abusers are rare because there are legal and societal repercussions for taking advantage of women of all ages.
Female abusers are much more common because we literally celebrate them using and abusing men, and there are absolutely no negative consequences unless they try to take advantage of a dude who will have none of it. Even then, if the dysfunctional relationship goes public or to trial, the man is vilified and punished far more often than not.
To the argument, we do know that the brain doesn’t finish developing until mid to late twenties. So it could theoretically be easier for an older person to take advantage of a younger person for that reason. However, there are a lot more factors that go into a person’s decision making abilities than age and brain development alone.
What makes this discussion interesting is flipping the sexes. If you aren’t worried about protecting young men from older women, then you shouldn’t be worried about protecting young women from older men. Alas, this is one of many unfortunate double standards that we have to live with.
When I was in my late 30's and early 40's and became single I was with a range of girls between 21-47. I wasn't chasing girls as I wasn't able to provide a relationship with any of them but in my case they were just mostly people I knew and had built a friendship with and I guess they felt safe and wanted to share an intimate experience with.
I did have from time to time girls that were youngish but never got to know them enough to know their age that would be giving the vibe that they just wanted to bang without even really having any proper conversation or even probably knowing my name and I had to just go with my gut and just assume that something wasn't right about the whole thing or it was a trap or whatever. I did and still do look young for my age but I'm sure a 20+ yo girl can tell if a bloke is almost double their age or there about anyway.
So to my point yeah young girls would totally be with an older man but to answer your question a young girl (20+) would know a guy is older and I think that even though he thought he was in control, that girl knew what she was doing and people that go out together look out for each other and aren't going to let their friend go home with an old creep. I wouldn't and I have witnessed my young friends not allowing it so that is what I am basing my opinion on.
It is not ridiculous if it happens. Not only to 22yo women. Maturity happens differently for each person and some people either lack some parental figure in their lives and seek for some "shelter" along life or actually have this taste on "kink level".
On the other hand, there are some older men and women who could take advantage of this when meeting someone who is susceptible to being manipulated. Relationships are to be taken more seriously and one must be cautious enough to avoid this kind of trap.
It is not smart to generalize though.
We were talking about sex though, so I don't think relationship issues apply here.
It's a bit complicated. I knew two young women, around 20, who were pursued by men about ten years older. They got married, had a child, and discovered that they didn't have one baby, they had two. Their husband was uninterested in the baby and contributed nothing. This often happens with young women who were raised without much love and support -- they jump at the first man who pays them any attention.
The 30-ish men who court very young women do it because they have no success with women their own age. They are immature and by 23 or so women can figure this out.
There are many reasons why men do it, lot of them have a kink for younger women, has nothing to do with how they are desired by women their own age
All I know is what I have seen. Oh, there was one more -- my 19-year-old cousin married a 29-year-old man who was trying to marry the gay away. He married her but was having sex with men the whole time. Finally after 30 years in a cold bed she got a clue and hired a private detective who followed him to a park where he was having anonymous sex with men. The sad thing is that she is now homophobic, instead of realizing that it was homophobia that kept him in the closet.
I feel for her. That's horrible after so many years. She wasted her life.
Yeah that's just not a smart take.. I feel like people infantilize younger a bit too much.. They aren't naive children.. By the time anybody is 15, I feel like they have at least a decent grasp on the world and how life flows..
Exactly
Unfortunately, some people never grow up! But at age twenty two. Men and women are allowed to drive a car. Drink alcohol and carry a gun. Plus serve in the military.
I would hope that people are mature adults and able to make life changing decisions at that age!
You are not a teenager once you are 18. Age of consent laws vary, though basically 18 is adult. If we go by drinking age, sometimes being an adult is 21.
I would say women who are 22 could still need a lot of attention also older gentlemen could try to swindle, use, manipulate, or abuse them though I could say that about all gentlemen from the age of 23 to 52 not inherently a 50 to 20 relationship….
However will also add that this could impact the ‘power dynamic’ and make her feel intimidated.
Yeah but I get why there's more concern if the guy is older but it's not a definite thing like a younger guy can be just as bad
You are definitely a teen till you are 20 though, that's common sense?
I think you underestimate 22 year olds and what they can do
@emmil I’m starting to think you are not actually serious….
“ I thought it was ridiculous” - So you’ve changed your mind?
Why you think that?
I said you underestimate 22 year old
“ I had a conversation with a woman on here who said 22 year old women are still teenagers and need lot of male attention so a 52 year old man would use them and manipulate them.
I thought it was ridiculous, but what do others think?”
I never once changed my stance, what are you talking about
Hello? Also pathetic for blocking me, weirdo
Yup. That's riduculous. 22 is obviously not a teen. Teen years end when a person turns 20.
And it's stupid to generalize and assume that most or all 22 year olds are naive. That's as stupid as saying that all women are naive. Oh, those poor helpless females!
As soon as you are 20 you are no longer a teenager. Could a 52 year old manipulate a 22 year old? Sure, but a 22 year old man could manipulate her as well. She is an adult and can make her own decisions on who to have sex with, and yes she might get manipulated.. that's life
@emmil I think it is 'okay'. I agree with @paige90 and @Jennz6. At 22, a girl should have had some experience with guys and not allow herself to be manipulated by a man
It can still happen, you are pretty young at that age, but it could happen at any age?
What I am saying is she was talking about them like they are kids, which they are not. Even 18 year olds know well what they are doing when it gets to sex.
Yeah, people are just freaked out when the guy is much older, but it's no different if he was 20 for example
Like it's no different if it's a 50 or 20 year old guy fucking an 18 year old for example.
But lot of people still think there is a difference because of the age. Do you know who I have in my mind? 😉
Oh really you agree? You think there is no difference if a 50 or 20 year old fucks an 18 year old?
IT WAS YOU who though an older man must be somehow taking advantage sexually of an 18 year old but a guy few years older than her would not be.
It makes no sense whatsoever.
I don't get offended. I just don't understand the prejudice between men and women in age gap. I think it stems from one's hormones and desires.
She's not entirely wrong.
A lot of young women still seek approval from "daddy". This is why many women have a fetish for daddy or authority figures. An unscrupulous man may take advantage of that because "he knows how to push the right buttons" on a young woman to get her to do what he wants.
For instance, I could do it here, but I am ethically compelled not to use that power. Instead, I think of such women as like daughters and not hot young pieces of ass.
I doubt you could, and true there are girls like that, but many who just find much older men hot, it goes both ways.
Of course you doubt that I could. You are young.
But there's something you don't understand... Older people gain a certain wisdom that takes decades to acquire and that's learning human nature. Something young people are only vaguely familiar about because their minds are filled with their dogmas.
But this quote by David Mamet is true...
"Old age and treachery will always beat youth and exuberance."
Not if the young person is not attracted to the older person. You can't do anything and you'll have to be hot to do it.
Of course not
@Kerihill Who are you asking?
If you are asking me, of course a young man can be taken advantage of by an older woman. It happens often enough. The one critical difference (depending on the male's age) is that a young straight male will fuck anything that 1) he thinks is female and 2) he thinks she might be into him and 3) his instincts tell him she's not off-limits. Frankly, we go insane.
some 22 are immature teens yes, others are mature. it's a number not a meturity level.
and yes some older guys will use and abuse, but maybe will get away with it and maybe would keep as well. it's a boost to their ego and mark on the world. see the news... happens.
Unfortunately, there are a lot of 'ageheads' on here, individuals who will hit you over the head repeatedly, with the supposed cudgel of chronological elapsed time lived, as if thus one characteristic one defines, classifies and categorizes us. I once read a post from a disillusioned young student who was complaining about this, and when I commented on her question, she proceeded to do the exact same thing to me that she'd railed so vociferously about moments earlier.
In 20 to 30 years they will be saying that 30 year old is still a teenager. You got to draw the line somewhere, and people need to take responsibility for what they do.
Excellent
Yes, we all know who that persistent woman is. She has some very odd beliefs, and this is one of them.
Who is it?
I think in some cases it would be true, but because some people's maturity level doesn't match their chronological age. However, it's also the case that some 52 year old men would be manipulated and taken advantage of by 22 year old women.
You're right. But what she said can be explained.
I think you need to ask that particular woman if she had a father. Beause women that think this way generally are lacking in confidence instilled in them as women by thier fathers. So they go through life looking for a man who will give that to them. Some by committee.😆
A woman with confidence does not need the attention of multiple men.
I think she's leaning towards the fact that at 22 your frontal cortex is not done developing yet which makes it harder for a young person to make proper decisions.
Not in terms of sex lol
They can decide just like if they were few years older plus you don't really know when your cortex develops, 25 is just a assumption
The prefrontal cortex, which is part of the frontal lobe, isn’t fully formed until mid to late twenties. This is a scientifically established fact supported by the preponderance of ethical research in biology, physiology, psychology and psychiatry. Not an “assumption”. As that area of the brain is responsible for higher cognitive functions like decision making, it absolutely affects decisions regarding sex and relationships.
That said, it’s underdeveloped in young adults, not undeveloped. Good parenting can go a long way toward helping young people make better choices before their brains are at peak maturity.
@Chazmatazz269 research says no one knows when your brain develops, it can be 30s too. The 25 age is just an assumption based on research that had limited subjects.
If they are at that age eg early twenties, they don't make decisions about sex any worse than a 25 year old or 30 year old would. They are definitely old enough for it.
I agree early 20's girls can be child like but it doesn't follow that a 52 yo man will pop up and use them.
A child girl is vaguely annoying to me. Some men might like their youth though.
What the hell is a child girl?
That's ridiculous
True, of men too
@Caroline91 yes completely different
@Caroline91 Well the comma is not sung but in any case it is about a girl who is childlike. Song lyrics can be taken in different ways and it is kinda of the point of them.
It is not really worth discussing but haven't you met an 18-22 yo who still seems to have a high school emotional age?
@RavVid True, different people do hear things differently. But in this case that was the way the song writer wrote the lyrics. But then, as you say song lyrics, or any other art form, has been largely in the eye of the beholder. I'm really not intending to criticize you.
I was just offering a clarification of how the lyrics are written. And your point is well taken!
has meaning largely in the eye of the beholder...
@Caroline91 I wasn't taking it as criticism.
I was looking at different takes on Tina T's What has love got to do with it recently and there were many variations. It is pretty damned good if a song can have you looking at it from several different angles. :) I got a fair bit out of that exercise.
Jesus, you made up your own term here @RavVid
we're definitely not teenagers but its such an individual and situational thing lol anything can happen
that age gap is gross tho
Lol yeah she was generalising a lot
22 years old isn't a teenager but young women may have such low self esteem that they seek attention from older secure and stronger people who provide safe space for them to let go.
So you agree with her?
I felt like she's infantalizing adults
She's just feel the 22 year old would be used, It doesn't make sense to me if they are both enjoying the sex
I think it is quite possible and happens quite often!
How do you know
They’re not teens but still very naive, inexperienced, and yeah often insecure and needy of male attention. Perfect for men who want to manipulate their woman.
Lol such generalisations, speak for yourself
Are you the woman who said it? You sound like her?
I'm guessing the woman was older and was speaking from experience.
Maybe but it's wrong to generalise based on your experience in my opinion
Twenty-two-year-olds AREN'T teenagers.
I know lol
I think it's ok
That depends on the man and most indubitably on the woman.
Its completely and utterly ludicrous yes.
Absolutely ridiculous
Same here
Wtf what an idiot
Ummm wut?
No I don't think
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