Why do you think many companies hire immigrants who are here in the US illegally?

[msc545]

[SotiCoto]

So they don't have to pay them as much, obviously.
Capitalism thrives on exploitation and abuse.

[RedInnocent69]

Because Americans like money more than each other

[MisterWack]

Surplus of the hard labor that natural born Americans are less likely to join, also there is vast amounts of open spaces that need to be constantly filled or else construction and other job sources would halt.

I talked about how high skilled workforce is prepared through college, something ‘illegals’ will never be able to achieve since you need a large surplus of wealth accumulation, same reason why African American population has been facing road blocks to good education and needed the scholarships SCOTUS & President Trump cracked down on.

Low benefits to none, lowest wages, long grueling hours in the extreme heat or extreme cold, low skilled labor, etc. are better for immigrants since they see this as just ‘part of the job’ and will take this treatment over the treatment from their place of origin where Natural Born Citizens would not be so obliged.

[alli-112]

Cheap labor? Specifically cheap, largely unregulated labor in fields most Americans intentionally avoid anyway.

[msc545]

True

[Dongie]

One reason, to be such a good human being by giving our little friends south of the border a nice income while settling here!! (sic) It has NOTHING to do with saving money by paying them much less. Because they are such good humans.

[Dongie]

I just LOVE to watch a brainwashed mind answer a question such as this. Watch how the culprit puts forth the reasoning for the need for the cheap labor. "Because the vendors, stores, and wholesalers would then have to pay MORE for the produce, then the price for US would be higher." You know the billionaires LOVE to hear of the "little" people fighting for their right to hire cheap, illegal laborers. They still sell their produce at the price legally rated for the laborers because, shucks, if they didn't they'd be found out and let's face it, what human gives another a fuckin break?

[msc545]

I cannot think of a class as people more devoid of empathy than billionaires.

[Dongie]

But you take their part with the price thing. They don't give no cut for saving money picking. I bet they don't.

[msc545]

No, I mean the thing is that their profits increase when they cut their labor costs by hiring illegal immigrants. I'm sure you realize that right?

[Dongie]

Of course. Because they don't pass the savings on to the consumer. They only pass on a loss to the consumer.

[msc545]

That too is true. They put the savings in their pockets.

[WindAtMyBack]

Because it's cheaper, or they don't care, or they don't know.

Keep in mind that most illegals came here legally. If their legal stay expires, how will a company know? I don't know what kind of records they are required to keep if they hire a legal alien. Do they pay attention to the expiration date?

[Anonymous]

Because it benefits everyone since the jobs they're being hired for are unwanted by everyone else.

[slatyb]

It does not benefit everyone. If there were no undocumented workers to take those jobs, the employers would have to offer more, and some US workers would receive a higher wage. The jobs are unwanted at the wages offered. If picking produce paid $100/hour, plenty of people would want those jobs. So somewhere between the current wage and $100/hour is the minimum wage that make people want those jobs.

[msc545]

@slatyb I the employers have to pay more, they will need to charge more, which in turn will reduce sales since most products are not essential. This will result in the business becoming less and less profitable and may put it out of business altogether. This benefits nobody.

You can change $ 100 for 10 oranges and very few people will buy them.

[slatyb]

Yes, if the labor to get produce to market were more expensive, then US produce would be more expensive and less competitive with produce imported from the south.

[msc545]

There is also the unspoken side effect of cheap labor causing profits to rise and rich people becoming even richer. From the point of view of a rich person, this makes perfect sense and it's just and fair.

[TrueConfection]

They can negate labor laws without trouble from the workers.

[DrPepper12]

Servile, controlled, vulnerable & cheap. Capitalism most perfect work force!

[msc545]

Just one small step better than slaves!

[Sevenpointfive]

because people don't want to pay $10 for a nice tomato.

[exitseven]

They work cheap and they do not get benefits DUH!

[Shiprex]

Cheaper to pay less and the consequences aren't being put on them for BREAKING the law in hiring them

[Iron_Man]

Because Its basically free labor for what they pay them

[DeeDeeDeVour]

Yes but not in the businesses I own and operate.

[Ariesman81]

It's a combination of corporate greed, U. S. worker entitlement, and the illegals willingness to work cheaply.

[UrbanLeather]

They are cheaper to hire just ask Donny boy for his resorts and golf courses

[Pterodon]

Because they’ll work for virtually nothing and they don’t have to pay any benefits including workers comp

[dustybiker2]

Experience. Often it's word of mouth. Family members and the older workers couch for them. They are less trouble, less liability and work harder.

[dustybiker2]

*vouch

[msc545]

and cheaper.

[msc545]

Cheaper is the most important reason.

[dustybiker2]

Well yes. But when you have families working for you for 20-25 years they probably have to fund some extra expenses and happily as they are friends at that point. Because they are happy they often stay after getting their legal status. That process I know can take 5+ years. Seen that many times over with Welsh and many Mexican friends.

[msc545]

Growers here in California employ the cheapest illegal labor they can find.

[msc545]

They do this to increase profits and remain competitive since all other growers do it too.

[dustybiker2]

It's more complicated than that.

[msc545]

It certainly can be, but often it is not.

[dustybiker2]

@msc545 You say that immigrants are the cheapest labor they can find, but try finding other californians who will do it without whining or trying to sue.

[msc545]

Illegal immigrants do not whine or cry or sue for fear of loss of their job and/or deportation.

[dustybiker2]

Exactly.

[msc545]

That is yet another reason to hire illegal immigrants but the major reason has to do with the ability to pay them low wages and have them accept that.

[dustybiker2]

It's more important to get the job done well vs simply finding cheap help. So I have to mostly disagree. Cheap means a heap of problems. If it wasn't more than that they wouldn't spend decades on the same farms.

[msc545]

Picking fruit pr washing dishes doesn't take much skill at all.

[dustybiker2]

Hiring immigrants pretty much guarantees they will work their hardest not to lose a job.

[msc545]

That is true, but it usually means showing up on time, working hard, and not complaining.

[NathanDavis]

because they can get away with it...

[NaultD]

To make a profit.

[Anonymous]

Because the people who protest slavery the most, love slavery.

[Anonymous]

Pay less than us workers

[beefcakebradybatson]

They're getting them on the cheap.

[Chazmatazz269]

Profit over people

[Twalli]

It's cheaper