To the people who blindly support Israel, is this still okay for you?

[Anonymous]

Israeli soldiers have admitted receiving orders to shoot at a crowd of civilians waiting for humanitarian aid. Published by Israeli newspaper Haaretz.

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/2025-06-27/ty-article-magazine/.premium/idf-soldiers-ordered-to-shoot-deliberately-at-unarmed-gazans-waiting-for-humanitarian-aid/00000197-ad8e-de01-a39f-ffbe33780000

How can people still say that it's a Christian duty to support the current State of Israel? How can anyone deny that it's a genocide anymore, and after 2 years of stories like these?

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11 mo

The article reports that there was no imminent threat

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11 mo

You can read about it here cited from the original article as well.

www.middleeasteye.net/.../israel-gaza-soldier-admit-deliberately-killing-unarmed-aid-seekers

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One of the aid seekers shot to death. A starving, small boy who kissed the hand of an American security contractor and thanked him for the food he gave him a few minutes before his death.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DM1rBYiut79/

[glennos89]

It's not okay to support any wars, bombings, shootings, or any other type of severe crimes period!

We just have to teach this to citizens in country's arround the world because they are crimes against humanity and people participating in these things should be punished with lifelong prison sentences or death penalty's

[strateguy632]

So like if Germany invaded Poland it would be wrong for others to respond by going to war?

[jshm2]

The genocidal state of Israel is a problem, but the USA can't deal with it.

[lightbulb27]

no, it's not ok.

it's the same thing that was done to them in some aspects. Lets be honest, war is awful and if you were to watch WWII pacific on a daily basis, you'd see horrific behavior... which you can watch movies about.

But the US soldiers as well helped civilians, tried to save them, feed them. USA rebuilt those countries once they conceeded. That's what I expect.

If israel loses in the court of public opinion, they are finished regardless of the proection trump provides temporarily.

[permanentem]

It's crazy how you support an insane demonically possessed pedophile rapist murderous slave trading caravan robber named Muhammad that likes to get ass blasted in gay orgies by large groups of black men while his male companion watches like a cuck as he gets covered in semen that his child bride Aisha has to scrap off and how you're somehow surprised that God might send down his fury upon you.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/hrclVmRiw0whttps://www.youtube.com/embed/KSLhVzQJPic

[strateguy632]

What you don't know is: that this newspaper "haaretz" sells an English newspaper to Europe and hopes the European jew- haters will by their "international" one So that is why they make a sensation with fake news.

[strateguy632]

If Israel had a goal to kill randomly then Israel would not use bullets. They have big high explosive bombs but for some reason don't use them hmmm.

[FreyaRed]

It's completely clear that Israel wants to genocide Palestinians to steal their land. From my perspective as a person from christian society it's like a devil kills a monster. There is no fight good against evil but one evil against another and when evil destroys itself normal human being shouldn't intervene.

[exitseven]

Yes, they are a small country surrounded by hostiles. They must show that they are not to be screwed with.

[Asker]

Why do you think they're hostile towards them in the first place?

And no, that's not an excuse for Hamas to do what they did, but from a realistic point of view, what do you think will be the outcome of these kinds of actions?

Do you think the kids who lost a parent that just went out to bring them food, risking their life knowing that aid seekers are being shot, will grow up to love or want peace with Israel? If you were a child who didn't know anything about war and has been living in hell for 2 years, seeing your parents taken away and killed, your siblings and grandparents dying, would you love or want peace with the country that did that to you and your family?

This will just fuel more hatred. What's the difference between Hamas and the IDF, if both of them take revenge on innocent people? People who support it, don't want peace, they just want genocide.

[strateguy632]

The asker left a hint about "shooting " that means bullets. Some incident must have happened with hammas trying to steal food to sell so they were ordered to shoot at hammas despite nearby civilians. Not targeted them. Bullets. If Israel had a goal of genocide they don't use bullets!

[exitseven]

All the surrounding countries would wipe them off the face of the Earth if they could. They live in a perpetual state of being behind enemy lines.

[Anonymous]

Fake news. Remember that HAMAS has been given orders to massacre Israeli citizens

[Asker]

Why would an Israeli newspaper publish fake news that harms the PR image of the IDF and Israeli government? I mean, why would they make a problem with Netanyahu if they are living under his government? There is footage of injured Palestinians talking about this too.

[Asker]

Hamas is horrible, but that doesn't mean that the IDF is any better though.

[strateguy632]

To anon asker about "why would they make a problem with Netanyahu" you think he controlls the news company? Plenty of political opponents oppose netanyahu. "an Israeli newspaper publish fake news that harms the PR image of the IDF" to sell its international version. To a permanent audience.

[wkhan_87]

I would like to say through this platform that " IDF and Zionist are the cancer for the world peace.
There is no peace possible if those Zionist beasts exists.
I know my account will be freeze again for saying that.

[mfused411]

None of this would be happening had Israel not been attacked on October 7th. War sucks.

[wkhan_87]

Actually 7th October was just a reaction of Israel's devil actions since last 75 years.
What else you expect from a community who has been pressurized and oppressed by Israeli devils since a long time

[mfused411]

Then stop whining about it and let them finish it.

[Asker]

The IDF has killed almost sixtyfold the civilians in Gaza, the conflict didn't start nor end on October 7. Why do Israeli lives matted more than Palestinian lives?

This isn't even just "Oh they bombed the hospital where Hamas was hiding under" - even though they never would if said hospital had been Israeli instead of Palestinian, there is footage of injured Gazan civilians talking about this and Israeli soldiers admitting to shooting at unarmed civilians.

There is more evidence besides this as well of the targeted killing of civilians in different instances, some of them children.

These aren't just "war casualties"

[Asker]

Sixtyfold in Gaza since October 7*

That's without counting all the Palestinians killed before that, and those who have been harassed and killed on the daily in the West Bank.

All innocent lives matter the same.

[mfused411]

It's a war. I'm not taking sides on it.

[wkhan_87]

@mfused411 how is it war?
A full armed forces vs unarmed innocent children and women?

[Pterodon]

You don’t know what genocide is. The Nazis perfected it. Research it

[Asker]

Yes, it's a genocide. They are treating the civilians worse than animals, and killing Palestinians purposely. All lives matter, isn't that what you guys were saying a few years ago?

[strateguy632]

About all lives matter, look at how Israel tries to keep its enemy alive! The opposite of genocide
www.ap.org/.../

[Pohjolan]

You do realise that that article is behind a paywall?

[Asker]

You can read about the article here as well
www.middleeasteye.net/.../israel-gaza-soldier-admit-deliberately-killing-unarmed-aid-seekers

[Pohjolan]

And Instagram isn't a source.

[Asker]

Did you even click on it? It's clip from a journalist interview by Tucker Carlson. You can find the hour-long interview with Tony Aguilar on Tucker Carlson's official YouTube channel as well.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QRjEMbHXM4Q

[Pohjolan]

Tucker is known propagandanist.

[Asker]

You could say the same about every single journalist and news chain, doesn't mean everything is fake news. Especially when there is some evidence of it

[Pohjolan]

Nah.

[Sal_Monella]

I support Israel. Full stop. They will sometimes do unpopular things to defend themselves.

[Sal_Monella]

@Biricik Becaaaaaause...

[Ariesman81]

You want the truth? The third temple needs to be built on the Temple Mount.

[strateguy632]

Omg Israelis don't even talk that way! Most Israelis are secular and don't want "pagan" animal sacrifices. I was a rabbi for orthodox we have a traditional for at least 900 years or more, that "a miracle will bring down a heavenly temple built by god to last permanently." Period. (Okay- i can admit, on the mosque but god will do it, not any person).

[Ariesman81]

@strateguy632

Ezekiel 39
25 “Therefore this is what the Sovereign Lord says: I will now restore the fortunes of Jacob[d] and will have compassion on all the people of Israel, and I will be zealous for my holy name. 26 They will forget their shame and all the unfaithfulness they showed toward me when they lived in safety in their land with no one to make them afraid. 27 When I have brought them back from the nations and have gathered them from the countries of their enemies, I will be proved holy through them in the sight of many nations. 28 Then they will know that I am the Lord their God, for though I sent them into exile among the nations, I will gather them to their own land, not leaving any behind. 29 I will no longer hide my face from them, for I will pour out my Spirit on the people of Israel, declares the Sovereign Lord.”