Do you know the Declaration of Independence was a Indictment of King George?

[goaded]

America declared independence from King George due to all the things Trump is doing to us now. They are listed in the declaration of independence. Here are listed some of them.

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1. He has refused to assent to law necessary for the public good. https://civilrights.org/trump-rollbacks/
2. He has obstructed laws for the naturalization of foreigners and refused to pass others to encourage their migrations hither. www.aila.org/.../president-trump-signs-executive-order-protecting-the-meaning-and-value-of-american-citizenship

and so on

[Screenwriter]

Trump has done some enormous flouting of the rules of Constitutional law that the Declaration of independence outlines as their problem with King George III and their reason from cutting themselves off from England.

But, we have a Senate and House of Representatives who

also know that the recent bill they passed and the actions over the deportations of and holdings in foreign jails are all Constitutional violations of the rights of these people,--who, because they are on American soil have Constitutional rights to representation, trial by jury, etc.

Citizens depend on our Congress to represent us and act in our best interests. Tax cuts for the very rich, healthcare cuts for the very poor, and deportations for immigrants who've been here for decades working and paying taxes, and who are not gang members, as the president bloviates and misrepresents, do not help legal citizens and deny others the few rights they have here as non-citizens.

It's not this simple or straightforward. But a lot is wrong here.

[msc545]

Here is a bit more that is wrong:

1. Trump continues to violate the law as enumerated in the Constitution with impunity, and over time, this has gotten progressively worse.

2. Congress has essentially decided to ignore Trump's violations of the law.

3. DIstrict Courts have ruled against trump and he has violated court orders or ignored them or both.

4. Our Supreme Court has essentially supported Trump, and when it has ruled against him, he has ignored those orders and defied them, and there have been no consequences to him for doing so.

[dustybiker2]

Yes.

History is doomed to repeat itself.. yes even in 2024.. dating back to Nov.

Q. Where do sane Americans migrate next? Nuke Russia and start fresh?

[jamesgoldman]

A nuke will end the world regardless of where it lands, might as well fire it in a sealed silo

[dustybiker2]

Oh pretty true given amount and retaliation reaction. That was tongue in cheek.

[beefcakebradybatson]

@jamesgoldman NUKE TRUMSPERS !!!

[beefcakebradybatson]

I meant,"NUKE TRUMPSTERS !!!"

[OneViewpoint]

Well if we're being perfectly honest, it was an indictment of the current British Monarch at the time but, it was also a power grab by the the local landed aristocracy who had established themselves in the new colonies. They were not interested in the ideals they scribbled down in the Declaration Of Independence and later in the Constitution as much as they were in securing power for themselves as rich White landowners who had witnessed the meddling of the Catholic Church and the Church of England combined with corrupt inbred European monarchies fucking things up forever.

New country. Same old White aristocracy in charge on day 1. For the same reasons.

For all the lofty language, slavery was greenlighted. Women were not allowed to vote. And White landowners were given all the power via the electoral college and the Senate. Because the rabble can't be trusted, right?

[RavVid]

The English Revolution had established the supremacy of Parliament in 1688. After that Parliament called all the shots.

I just like the irony that the the English Revolution against the Tyranny of the Stuarts led directly to the American Revolution against the Tyranny of the British Parliament.

In no way refutes your argument as you did have something to revolt against.

Jolly old Farmer George III wasn't it though. He was a pliant rubber stamp. That is the good thing about kings nowadays. They do what they are told..

[Jackblue]

Trump was elected by the people, he didn't inherit his office. The Founding Fathers were somewhat wary of a powerful Federal Government for fear of what it would do (although this too has been exaggerated by some Far Right Wing extremists who basically want to take us back to the days of the Articles of Confederation), however liberals largely pushed for a stronger Federal Government so they could enforce desegregation. Eisenhower for instance, sent in soldiers to enforce Brown vs. Board. Fair enough, but Trump cannot be denied that power now when public order is in danger. As for the other stuff, we need more specific context as to what you mean.

[QuietRunner]

None of these are things Trump is or has done to us that previous Presidents including Biden didn't also to to us. Most of this you are reading incorrectly and out of context from the 18th Century. For example, Standing armies are actual armies and American Colonists had to live with, house, and feed the British soldiers. The 3rd Amendment strictly prohibits this act. Trump has not violated the U. S. Constitution on that matter.

Each of the perceived violations must be addressed in a civil and public discussion, one by one. The MyTake on GirlsAskGuys is the best format to do that.

[msc545]

You are, of course completely right about this and I commend you for having the fortitude to read through the entire declaration of Independence and to fully realize how applicable some of the clauses entered are to our current situation. Thank you for this.

Unfortunately about half of our population is not going to care one way or the other and the other half of our population will care but will be unable to do anything about the problems.

[goaded]

Not until the midterms, except protests.

[goaded]

I can't take credit, check the link.

[Gwendoline]

As a non American I believe it was because Americans didn't want to pay taxes.

King George 3rd was far from a tyrant and one of the better if not best kings there was.

[Caroline91]

@gwendoline It wasn't quite that simple. The issue was taxation without representation. The colonists believed the British government was imposing taxes on them without their consent, violating their fundamental rights as Englishmen. They lacked direct representation in the British Parliament, meaning they had no voice in the decisions being made about their lives and livelihood.

[goaded]

@Caroline91 Also, King George III was literally insane around the time of the revolution.

[Caroline91]

@goaded true

[Gwendoline]

@Caroline91 they were basically paying no tax and the majority supported the British.

[andreasderjuengere]

The bad news: George lived another 44 years.

The good news: he died at age 81. Trump is 79 now.

[lightbulb27]

yes.

Will the left people rebel and declare independence from the president?

or patiently wait for the next election? they have plenty of ammo now to dethrone.

[exitseven]

President Trump is restoring our freedoms. Most of what this says is really what the previous administration was doing.

[goaded]

He's literally doing the opposite.

[goaded]

You remember when Trump sent the Marines to LA?

"He has kept among us, in times of peace, Standing Armies without the Consent of our legislatures.

"He has affected to render the Military independent of and superior to the Civil Power. "

[exitseven]

How about when Biden sent the FBI after the Jan6th protesters and sent them to prison for r years. Many were not charged with a crime.

[dustybiker2]

@exitseven The FBI agents handling those jan 6 cases were all fired. First week. Proof they were doing their jobs, well.

How do you explain trump pardoning sex traffickers and all each of the other criminals, with the sole thing going for them was a long chain of documented social media hate googling trump.
trump loves young woman the Epstein files show that, so do a number of recorded court documents. 12 year old girls ring a bell? Business fraud. Running numbers (which he is doing currently daily) gas hasn't been $1.99 in cali since 1970's.

And you want to talk and deflect on the topic of not fulfilling prosecution of crimes?

[exitseven]

@dustybiker2 Those FBI agents and many others should have been fired. The FBI is supposed to be a non partisan organization. It was weaponized during the Biden administration. Joe Biden used it as his own private SS. Millions were spent and people's rights were violated to imprison over 1500 Americans for 20-30 years for trespassing. One man was tracked down for 4 years finally finding him in rural Maine. For trespassing.
Many were denied legal representation and many were not even charged.
The FBI took mike Lindell's phone from him without a warrant. He was afraid he would end up in the same black hole tht Biden put the Jan6th protesters.
I can remember 1.99 gas in 2019. i never thought that I would ever see it again. I bet we see it again soon too.

[dustybiker2]

That's the rhetoric talking. It is non partisan, or was before fru fru was put in. The FBI treatment were a knee-jerk reaction by an incredibly insecure man. He went after everyone that ever hurt him as if following a textbook. (Oh wait.. he was) Every business held accountable, then went after everyone who had hurt his big campaign supporters. And then regular supporters convicted criminals pardons, including jan 6 who were legally handled regardless of fox reporting. Abuse of pardon they call it?

All of those moves have been documented and he will be held accountable at the end of his term or before if it comes to it. I wouldn't assume otherwise. And don't think the courts have been restricted. Those moves have already been counter planned by loopholes the supreme court left open. Smart on them. Pet the head and attach a leash.

The FBI have already said the bulk of all musk doge destruction will be put back smoothly and efficiently, with the finer details taking longer to clean up.
Trump thinks this is a home run.
It is not.
Anything that happens easily shouldn't be taken for granted.

You must live is a fine state to have had $1.99 in 2019. Some sort of maga heavy area trump manipulated.

[goaded]

Do you really believe "people's rights were violated to imprison over 1500 Americans for 20-30 years for trespassing"? Because that's absolute bullshit in every way.

Before I get to that, the FBI isn't the military, it's law enforcement.

Then:
Nobody's rights were violated, they all got their days in court if they wanted them.

Not all of them were imprisoned, then mostly for violence against the police, not "trespassing".

Only a few were sentenced to anything like 20 years, and they were all convicted of seditious conspiracy for their attempt to steal the presidency for Trump.

[Tamera952]

@exitseven the fuck he is, mor*n!

[exitseven]

Many were not even charged with a crime. There were people who were across the street that got arrested and imprisoned. There was somebody who was not even in Washington that got 20 years.

[goaded]

"There was somebody who was not even in Washington that got 20 years." His name was Enrique Tarrio and he was convicted on September 5, 2023 "to 22 years in prison, the longest handed to a January 6 offender. Tarrio's sentence included a terrorism enhancement, indicating Tarrio's actions influenced "the conduct of government by intimidation and coercion".

[exitseven]

Hexwas not even there. He was railroaded. Meanwhile BLM rioters were allowed to cause a billion dollars in property damage an 12 deaths. Nobody was charged and nobody was arrested

[dustybiker2]

@exitseven his conviction info shows you don't have to be present to be the (I assume) funding source or orchestrator of an incident to get the heaviest sentence. Sounds like the FBI found damming evidence to show Jan 6 might not have happened without him. And the court agreed. Railroaded must have been foxs term. Deny and deflect.
FBI were doing their jobs after all. Yet you still believe FOX rhetoric. Give it up.

[exitseven]

@dustybiker2 and yes people like George Soros and AL Sharpton continue to walk around free as birds

[dustybiker2]

Judicial system and pardons. Two very dif birds of feather.

[exitseven]

@dustybiker2 the Suoreme Court has ruled in Presiden Trumps favor. It was the right thing to do and e eryone knows it. Demo rars are just sore losers but they are losers just the same. Trump will be continuing dismantling the deep state and draining the swamp. The budget bill included billions for deportations so that will be stepped up as well. Trump had 4 years to plan his comeback. The incredible speed in which he is doing the people's business had Democrats on the ropes. I would not be surprised if another party emerges and the democrats become some lunatic fringe group

[dustybiker2]

"the Suoreme Court has ruled in Presiden Trumps favor"

Is that where FOX stopped reporting? The supreme court is paid off by trump. It will probably be replaced in some way at the end of this grandiose cluster hemorrhoid in Americas history.

They purposely left out class action suits... trump better brace. Loopholes left open for reasons...

[exitseven]

@dustybiker2 class action suits from who? illegal aliens? welfare cheats? ex government employees? or transexual wackos? Those will never see the light of day.

[goaded]

BLM: Half the deaths were killings by the right wing, and well over 10,000 people were arrested.

[dustybiker2]

@exitseven He has a boatload coming. Excuse the pun. Sit back and watch the show.

I like how you still have so much enthusiasm for someone who is losing these court cases, what is the percentage? High 90's percentage? Courts require proof, unlike trumps fangirls.

[exitseven]

@dustybiker2 court cases with Democrat judges are not real court cases. These all. Will be thrown out eventually

[dustybiker2]

America doesn't have a king. Republicans forget this.

[goaded]

Many of the court cases were presided over by judges nominated by Republican presidents. Some even by Trump.

[Snakeyes7]

Suddenly larping as revolutionaries over a bunch of mainstream media lies.

Also, the democrats love taxes so much that they have been campaigning on raising them for as long as I can remember.

[DonaldDarko]

Trump is making America great again one deportation at a time. Next we'll have to deal with all you commies.

[beefcakebradybatson]

And King Donald, though most of the U. S. Founding Fathers had slaves and fathered children with female slaves.(Looking at YOU, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson!!!)

[Sal_Monella]

So, pick up your musket and... Don't wait up for me.

[noohair]

President Trump was elected, King George III was not...

[Smegskull]

And you hand no right to dissent then either.