Will you vote for the "America" Party in the next election?

[OddBeMe]

Elon may drag anti-trumpers away from Reps. IF he follows through. There's lots Elon promised but never accomplished. Unfortunately staying outta politics is not one.

Yes

No

[purplepoppy]

Musk can't be president since he's not American. I predict once the party is up and and running Trump and Musk will kiss and make up then Trump will stand as the candidate arguing you can be president more than twice if you switch to a different party.

[NYlatefun]

I’d have said def not a few years ago, now after seeing the garbage both parties are and how they’re controlled by Israel, I’d def consider it.

[OddBeMe]

Both are garbage? Thats a lot of hate. Who'd you vote for last?

[CaptainObivous]

"Both are garbage" He's not wrong, both parties really are garbage.

[OddBeMe]

@CaptainObivous im not totally in disagreement with that. But nothings changed for Dems this entire century. Just wondered what's changed for Republicans

[CaptainObivous]

Both parties have changed, Republican party has become the party of MAGA and the Democratic party has become the party of identity politics with purity test.

[OddBeMe]

@CaptainObivous identity party and purity tests. Not sure what those mean but I'll assume trans rights. They were for civil rights in the 60s and then gay rights. How have they changed?

[CaptainObivous]

Let me make it more clear, they transformed from the party of the working class to the party of identity politics and purity test. Purity test is where their is one set of views that everyone must support or your out of the party. Identity politics is a broad spectrum, that includes gender and race. The Democratic candidate for NYC Mayor, has been taking a lot of heat for his comment about shifting tax burdens to "whiter neighborhoods". It's not MAGA/republicans giving him heat, liberals/Democrats are also giving him heat for it.
This quote from a strictly liberal forum.
"I feel people saying things like "well the richer neighborhoods tend to be whiter so it's fine" are missing the point. If he wanted to just say that he is taxing rich people, he could have said that. Nobody put a gun to his head and asked him to add the race part to his platform.

It probably won't matter in the context of the nyc mayor race, but as a party nationally if our candidates run on things like this we can't then be all shocked-pikachu face about it when white voters pick the other party instead".

[OddBeMe]

@CaptainObivous again this ain't no different than 20-30 years ago. We have local mayors/reps like AOC who get rowdy liberal.

and new issues like Trans rights. Race and sexual ID has been a factor for decades dude. And Dems have been on the right side. They dont get as much done about working class. But they're the only ones fighting for working class. Big beautiful bill is my proof.

You got any?

[DrPepper12]

Lol. Some ketamine & blow and poof... Elins on to the next "I have a micro dick" project

[Sevenpointfive]

he's like a soon-to-be bernie sanders. i don't know enough about musk to have an opinion on him personally other than his actions. he seemed to want the usa to do better. i'd consider it until i knew the candidate

[exitseven]

Elon was pissed rhat he could not buy a president so he took his ball and went home. He cannot run for president so what , he will install some flunky that will do what he is told? No thank you. I stick with t g a MAGA party. So far so good

[CaptainObivous]

Certainly not, if I wanted to vote for a party controlled by billionaire (s) I'd just vote Republican or Democrat.

[OddBeMe]

Gotta vote for candidates in one of tne three... or two

[CaptainObivous]

Um no I don't, I can choose not to vote.

[goaded]

[CaptainObivous]

@goaded This is what happens when Democrats refuse to hold an open primary then force a candidate who many voters felt had nothing to offer beyond I'm not Trump. This is what happens when average Americans are struggling and Democrats are focused on identity politics while acting as if the economy is doing great, stock market doesn't put food on the table and has in the tank. This is what happens when Democrats throw false accusations and gets hostile towards anyone who doesn't 100% agree with them. This is what happens when you have Democrats push voters away for not being 100% in agreement on the issues because of purity test while Republicans will try to win your vote regardless of whether you on everything or not. Want to blame anyone, blame Democrats for pushing bad candidates, bad campaign strategies and messaging, and toxicity towards anyone who doesn't pass purity test. Several of my close friends were going to vote for Harris but stayed home because of toxicity from Democrats. You can't call someone who isn't racist a racist pos for not agreeing with you on an issue then get mad when they decide not to vote.

[OddBeMe]

When has open primaries ever nominated an outsider?

[CaptainObivous]

@OddBeMe it wasn't about nominating an outsider (would have been a plus), it was about nominating a stronger, better candidate. Harris was a weak candidate with a unlikeable personality and it showed during the 2020 primary when she was forced to drop out before voting started. FYI, in 2016 we almost nominated an outsider but the DNC fixed the primary because it was "her turn".

[OddBeMe]

Again... when has a primary nominated a "stronger better candidate"? Rather than what the people in the party want? Kamala had the confidence of everyone in the democratic party. Bernie still would lose. Unfortunately.

[CaptainObivous]

2008 when Obama instead of Hillary got the nomination.

[OddBeMe]

Maybe. But they're both so centrist Obama srudied reagan

[CaptainObivous]

Obama governed as a centrist, but he didn't campaign as a centrist, he campaigned as a populist wanting change just like Sanders did.

[OddBeMe]

So what's your argument then? Where's the extreme left influence on Democrats?

There is none. False equivalency

[NathanDavis]

never voted for any... and I will definitely won't be, repeatedly... throwing my heart at this one either...

[CaptainSmartass]

Nope. I'm torn between sticking with Conservatives, or going for Reform.

Simples...

[OddBeMe]

Conservatives love convicted fraudsters

[FunkyMonkee]

You don't have much to worry about! After this term, Trump can't win anymore, anyway!!

[Anonymous]

Presidential 3rd Parties have never been successful against the R and D Parties. All the America Party would do is syphon off people from the R Party, thus giving the D Party candidate a better chance of winning

[Filthy_Immigrant]

"Unfortunately staying outta politics is not one."

yeah you should know

[Pohjolan]

Ah so USA will now have a pro-billionaire party competing with the pro-millionaire one?

[dustybiker2]

Elon and his money is shit out of luck.

[kavakava]

I don't think he is serious.

[noohair]

I don't waste my vote...

[Anonymous]

I can't, I'm not American. But I would.

[avery58]

Fuck no

[SmokinAces2000]

Lmao

[Anonymous]

Hell No

[Anonymous]

Biden 2028

[OddBeMe]

Hunter 2028: blow and guns, and fck maga