Why are people still going on about the Epstein files?

[goaded]

Maybe it's this:

MAGA 82%, Republicams, 83%, Independents 86%, Democrats 90%

It's sad to watch people on here trying to bring up old news and new manufactured moral outrages to give cover to a man who, allegedly, had his photo take with two topless 14-year old girls on his lap and a stain on his trousers. Then they complain it's not working.

Do you think Epstein's co-conspirator's move to a minimum security prison which she's allowed to leave might have something to do with her lying about Trump?

[MisterWack]

Better question: Who cares about protecting unhinged rich elitists with unlimited wealth , power , time , influence which led to exploitation of minors who were manipulated into human sex trafficking under Epstein’s guidance?

Answer: No one. Release the files, the total files by the way, not hand picked selected defense of certain individuals. We want the WHOLE FILES!!!

I don’t care Democrat , Republican , Presidents of The United States , European Royalty , or anything else. Accountability and transparency is what we are after.
If you stand towards defending or obstructing , then you are Pro Pedophiles.

Of course the American people want the Epstein Files released and justice served.
It is Party Lines that try to manipulate what YOU want so, they get away with “IT”.

Mainstream Media listens to corporate entities and their associates , do you believe they will willingly want the truth out? Politicians listen to their politician friends , do you believe they will willingly rat out their friends and colleagues?

Release The Epstein Files and YOU Better Wake Up To Wanting It Too!

[Snakeyes7]

I agree that the perfect should not be the enemy of the good but that only applies to minor mistakes. The Epstein files was something he promised to release and that Americans were begging for since Epstein's death, yet the administration has been covering it up. Pam Bondi is a terrible liar and she should be fired. Going from "it is on my desk right now" to "there are no Epstein files" is something she should have known people were going to notice.

Also, I am amazed how quickly the left stopped saying that the typical Trump supporter suddenly doesn't want the Epstein files released the moment this MSNBC finding proved them VERY wrong. It should have been obvious if they have ever spoken to any Trump supporter but they clearly don't.

[goaded]

"the left stopped saying that the typical Trump supporter suddenly doesn't want the Epstein files released the moment this MSNBC finding proved them VERY wrong"
Well, that would be called changing your opinion based on new data. Quite common on the left.

I don't remember anyone saying that the typical Trump supporter suddenly doesn't want the Epstein files released. Do you?

[Snakeyes7]

I came across plenty. Though to be fair that was all on Reddit and not GAG.

[goaded]

OK, but the point about changing your mind when you have more data is important.

[Snakeyes7]

I don't think Reddit cares about new information. You and those you talk to on the other hand have never gone down the "Trump supporters are a cult" hole that far so I will give you all credit for that.

[goaded]

Let me know when there's evidence to the contrary!

[Dongie]

I do believe the proper channel is to prove it is so, dick.

[goaded]

@Dongie Ah, the hell with it. You recently said you're only here to troll me, so you and your foul mouth are blocked.

[Snakeyes7]

@goaded Well, for one, you just posted a picture of it. Cultists don't simply turn against their leader that way, and this is far from the first time they did.

[goaded]

Have they turned against their leader? They still support him despite the lie about the Epstein evidence. It's like a cult whose doomsday just passed without event. They still believe it's only Democrats on the list.

[Snakeyes7]

They don't care who's on it. Even if Trump himself is on it and there is enough evidence to prove that he abused children, it brings us at least one step closer to holding them accountable.

[goaded]

I'm not sure that's true, or at least that Trump can't find a distraction that will stick.

Guess what also happened on the day the Justice Department has said it will start producing Epstein files as required by the House Oversight Committee? John Bolton's home was dubiously searched.

[goaded]

Oh, and you have to bear in mind that Trump's supporters want the files released BECAUSE they believe Trump, QAnon, and other MAGA types who have been telling them that it's liberals, rather than conservative white men in the Catholic or Southern Baptist churches or the Republican party itself who are abusing children.

[Snakeyes7]

Dubiously? You don't think it happened because he was suspected to be holding them? The investigation has already started in 2020 until the Biden administration stopped it.

As for the second part, I am on conservative spaces often and that was not the sentiment at all. They see it as the draining of the swamp which includes many republicans.

[goaded]

It's dubious because it's obviously political. Quite apart from it taking the focus away from the release of Epstein evidence to Congress, political appointee "Kash Patel said he ordered the raid directly." Trump claimed that the book contained "highly classified" information but also characterized the book as "pure fiction." They haven't, as far as I know, specified any specific crime, we've not seen the warrant. Trump terminated Bolton’s security clearance and Secret Service detail when he came back into office. He's on a enemies list.

What did your conservative friends say about Matt Gaetz?

[Snakeyes7]

If it is classified then he shouldn't have it in his house, especially if he has been sharing it with his family (or so I have heard). The uniparty politicians including Bolton did the same shit to Trump in 2022 so I'd say it is dying by the sword you live by.

[goaded]

Trump was credibly accused of taking national security documents and keeping them on a stage and in the crapper, independent of their classification. Only having a corrupt judge overseeing the case meant he wasn't convicted in minutes by a jury.

[Snakeyes7]

And Bolton was not "credibly accused?" A term, by the way, that makes no sense because an accusation means that the claim's credibility has yet to be determined.

[goaded]

No, that's not what it means. If I accused you of being 8 ft tall with three legs, that would not be credible. If I showed a picture of you in possession of stolen goods, an accusation that you'd stolen them would be credible.

As far as I know, the Bolton search warrant is still not public.

[Snakeyes7]

Then what is the point of a trial if an accusation can simply be declared "credible?"

[goaded]

To prove the accusation. If Trump hadn't managed to run out the clock on his indictments, he would have been convicted. It pays to have corrupt judges and justices who are willing to exceed their authority and delay for you. You don't need that (and the millions of dollars in lawyers' fees) if you're innocent.

[Snakeyes7]

Then "credibly accused" is a paradox if an accusation has yet to be proven. The entire idea of separating an accusation and a conviction is the proof and adding "credibly" in front of it only manipulates those who don't know the difference.

[goaded]

You know I already answered that.

[msmissydc]

Stuart Adams... are they trying to make the things they did legal before it releases so they can say they didn't break any law?

[Dongie]

You are one ignorant piece of work!

[goaded]

@Dongie "An 18-year-old in Utah who was accused of having sex with a 13-year-old avoided jail after the laws governing sexual offenses were changed while his relative was president of the state Senate."

[Dongie]

So you figure an 18-year-old who had consensual sex with a minor should have the rest of his life ruined? I was offered some pussy from the friend of a friend's sister right after I turned 18. She was also 13. I had enough sense to recognize that having sex with my friend over the past year had not matured this girl. She looked 18 but the way she responded was as a kid and I turned it down. Not all can pass such a test. I wonder could you. They don't deserve to have their life ruined over such a thing. A few months earlier and they get nothing. Now, instantly they are an adult and tough shit if they don't mature as fast as turning 18.

[goaded]

@Dongie So next time they should change it to 19. Then 20. 21. 22. 86? The point you're avoiding is that the law change specifically saved a relative of a Republican politician from prison and registering as a sex offender.

[Dongie]

I'm avoiding a specific point before I know it? Right! You're such an accusing, ready-to-condemn, Third Reich descendant! Nobody over here can have a conversation with you. You just sling accusations and insults. You really are such a bore. 🫩

[goaded]

@Dongie I "just sling accusations and insults"? Have you read your comments on this question alone? Projection, insults and lies are all you have.

"You are one ignorant piece of work!"
"Are you jerking it while reading replys to your rude, hatefilled rants and wild ravings? Get a life gouda cheesedickhead!"
" Oh, and GO FUCK YOURSELF you snotty whiny little BITCH!! "
"You stupid little man!"
"A bunch of bloody cunts you all are! "

[msmissydc]

Dongie you have the selfreflection of vantablack. Do you even read your own comments? You defend pedophiles and would rather protect them instead of children that is fucked up!

[msmissydc]

People who do nothing but sling insults, saying others are not ready to have a conversation, are crazy. WTF!

[Dongie]

😅 blah, blah, blah! ●□□■♤♡◇♧¿
"Dongie, you're mean to us snowflakes!" She say.
Sniffle: "He's just typical of right-wing machoistic rudeness!" He say.

[msmissydc]

Dont worry little maga, daddy Trumpf is going to hold you when you cry. 🤣🤣🤣
So we are snowflakes together? You are calling us snowflakes for the exact same action (even though you lied about it) that you did before us? You have to explain that. I am not brainwashed enough to understand your reasons.

[Dongie]

Blada, blada, blada, blada... etc, etc, blah-da!!

That's what I hear. With me two ears, it's what I hear! @kavakava
doos yoos hear it?

[Danzigdawson]

MAGA will gladly justify just about anything if it helps them keep their delusions. We just didn't know just how low some of them would be willing to go.

Some will probably go even lower. If it's ever proven that trump had sex with minors, they'll give all sorts of unbelievably stupid and twisted reasons as to why he was right to do so.

[Dongie]

Why don't you do something? Get a hobby and stop obsessing over the American president! Do you hate him that much? Or is it you hate Americans and use g@g to safely troll us? Are you jerking it while reading replys to your rude, hatefilled rants and wild ravings? Get a life gouda cheesedickhead!

[goaded]

Did you skip your meds this morning, or what?

[Dongie]

No, I generally take my meds. Next question!

[msc545]

Because people would like to know if, in addition to all of his other crimes, our President is also a child molester and rapist. Not of coure that anyone would dream or prosecuting or punishing him if he is. He is immune to all such things.

[Kingofkings1992]

Immune? He had a bunch of fraudulent charges brought against him by corrupt courts lol

[exitseven]

The Big hole in this deep thinking theory is that the Biden administration had possession of the files for 4 years and yet none if this was used to tank Trump's return to the White House

[DryGermanGuy]

Not when you realize the fact that Merrick Garland was running a politically detached DoJ by the book and respected the judicial information integrity and privacy.

[exitseven]

@DryGermanGuy gmGarland was running Bidens personal KGB. They collided with New York state officials to put Trump in prison. They disappeared several hundred protesters for trespassing and Garland ordered a pre dawn raid on a former presidents personal residence and approved a shoot to kill order to the FBI shock troops. It was lucky Trump was not there. He would be dead.

[DryGermanGuy]

I'm baffled how a presumably straight man can sound like such a gay drama queen.

[exitseven]

@DryGermanGuy which of these things did not happen?

[DryGermanGuy]

Again, stop boring me with the eternal MAGA victimhood drama, for God's sake.
- Merrick Garland is known for working well with DEM and GOP, was even criticized for the speed his special counsel took on any Trump cases.
- Nobody colluded with anybody, why should they? The cases stood on their own.
- Nobody was disappeared. People were investigated, indicted, prosecuted and found guilty in various courts as everybody else would be. Unlike the MAGA idiots who still hope for the big bad Biden crimes revelations... for how long now?
- The FBI search was conducted a quarter to nine, the FBI knew Trump was in New York and informed his family and his lawyers. Trump's son admitted so and Trump's lawyers were present. That FBI agents in the field are armed and have certain qualified rights is the standard for a hundred years, how can you not know that?

[DryGermanGuy]

By the way, the FBI director in charge at that time, Christopher Wray, was nominated by Trump. Only the best people, remember?

[goaded]

That you can still think that nonsense while watching Trump's government agents snatching people off the streets with no due process is nothing short of astounding. Or it would be, if I wasn't used to it.

[Avicenna]

@DryGermanGuy: You apparently don’t know the way it works- when the Senate has to approve the nominee, you get ones approved that the Senate Majority Leader says they will get approved. Somehow

Holding Merrick Garland and the Biden and Obama Administrations up as a models of probity is pure propaganda.

[DryGermanGuy]

@Avicenna
"Somehow"? Yeah, wow, that certainly reads like the precise prescription of a working process. Garland was confirmed 70-30, which looks solid enough to me. And ignoring a never-mentioned probity, "somehow" a super MEGA MAGA like Matt Gaetz was not confirmed. Strange.

[Avicenna]

@DryGermanGuy: You missed the point entirely- it wasn’t Garland’s confirmation I was referring to (he wasn’t appointed by Trump), but Wray‘s. And, yes, what I explained to you is precisely why Gaetz didn’t get confirmed.

Having 30 vote against you isn‘t a total sign of confidence, but it’s ultimately irrelevant- Garland was made AG in part to make room for what’s now Justice Jackson on SCOTUS.

[Avicenna]

So, when Mitch McConnell says he’ll approve Wray but not anyone else, that’s what happens. Maybe that’s your idea of a „working process“, but it makes a mockery of the Senate‘s role when it comes to choosing Executive Branch appointees.

[Twalli]

Trump campaigned on releasing them. His cultists believe in conspiracies. Not releasing it sounds like it could be a conspiracy. So hus base doesn't like it. Others want it to give credence to their beliefs about what it will tell.

[OddBeMe]

I wish the scandal was a party controlled paramilitary force abducting people off streets while masked.

[DCVsMarvel2]

Musk told you he's in the files. The FBI told trump himself that he's in the files, in may

What did he do, and why. Why is he in the files.

[goaded]

What do you think would happen if the files incriminated Clinton and not Trump?

[onedarkcloud]

Maybe so it would be easier to Clintonize her.

[dustybiker2]

Primaries