What would happen if the president were to be impeached?

[Sevenpointfive]

Wouldn't JD Vance give him a full pardon like Gerald Ford did for Nixon? All of that pedophilia would just be wiped away by JD. Every single person that we could prosecute would be pardoned. What would this mean? Or what do you think is the likely scenario that would happen?

[msc545]

I suspect that we would probably all breathe a deep sigh of relief that we would no longer have to put up with a convicted felon acting like an angry, acting-out teenager with our country. That said, I would also be concerned about the political backlash, and I would be extremely concerned about Vance becoming president because it would just be substituting one problem for another.

Finally, I would be concerned for Trump's welfare. I would want him to get treatment for his mental disorder and any physical problems, and I would want him to be supported by his family if they would be willing to do that. After all, Trump is a human being. We may not like him or approve of him, but he deserves our care nonetheless. It is grossly wrong and immoral to punish or abandon people, including Trump, for their illnesses.

[jkreuger95]

Clinton was impeached. So was Trump. I don't know if there was any evidence he is actually a pedophile. You can hate a man but come correct with facts, otherwise you lose me

[msc545]

I'm not aware of any evidence at this time that he has ever been a pedophile, but that doesn't mean that the evidence doesn't exist. He's been scrambling madly to cover up files that may reveal such evidence, and I don't think that's a mistake on his part.

He has done many other impeachable things, and pedophilia doesn't have to be one of them. There are plenty of things to impeach this man for at this point, and you would probably be actually doing him a favor by impeaching him and relieving him of the responsibilities of that terrible office. Paragraph. On the other hand, impeaching Trump probably would not be a good idea at this time, because by doing this, you would be installing Vance as the new president. I think Vance is potentially as bad as Trump and a lot smarter, and he'll just present a whole new set of problems. We need a democrat as president now. I think for now at least, Republicans have proven that they have no morals and that they are willing to engage in criminal behavior to win elections. That is a real problem.

[jkreuger95]

@msc545 That is true, but I also believe Demo's have poor morals as well. Both sides suck. Unfortunately you have to vote for the person you believe to be the less shitty person

[msc545]

Democrats may or may not have poor morals, but at least they don't rub our faces in it like Trump does. Trump parades it with pride, and this is a huge problem. There is no way in hell that I would ever designate Trump as the putative least shitty person. I hope after reflection you wouldn't either.

[jkreuger95]

@msc545 he's definitely bottom of the barrel but compared to who? I don't remember anyone else running that I liked more and like is a very strong term here

[Sevenpointfive]

i don't hate him. but do to recent events, it does look like impeachment will happen.

[msc545]

He is pretty much at the bottom of the barrel compared to everyone except the warmongers, like Johnson was. Actually, I take that back. Trump is now officially a murderer. So I suppose that given the fact that he's murdered about 70 people, that he's willing to talk about that kind of makes him a warmonger or the equivalent thereof.

[Sevenpointfive]

@msc545 gaza is a genocide not a war. he'd like a war but until that happens it's a war on citizens. you have to count the all of the people. most of those palestinians lives are partly his fault. any policies that he's signed, cut funding to and created that ended in human loss is solely his. he's got a very high kill count!

[Sevenpointfive]

www.forbes.com/.../

[msc545]

I was thinking of all the murders he's committed in the Caribbean.

[Sevenpointfive]

@msc545 he kills first and explains later if he's caught. you can't really do anything after it's done, but if you do it again and again then the world turns on you.

he is using the exact same excuse israel did. it's almost like israel is doing all of this to america so that we blame trump/netanyahu instead of jews in general... they are trying to create a parallel among American/israeli citizens. trump wasn't a bad guy until this israel war started. the problem is that israelis support the genocide and americans never will.

[the jews are failing again. it's too easy to connect their dots. they were a generation too late in usurping our country.]

but billions of dollars to give to your family and businesses to make a mockery of yourself and your country because you'll die before your presidency ends is worth it to him. i think the people in control (jews) put the 2 most ridiculous people they could put up for election, because it was a win win situation. they were going to go through with their plans anyway, but the president would be blamed. a woman who slept her way into politics or a sleazebag that fails everything.

all of this theater that they do instead of actual government is just to cover up their crimes. they are all complicit in what is being done unless they've consistently voted otherwise. but again it's all just an illusion. the government is severely broken and trump was just the person to show you that.

no one should trust the DNC or the GOP. you will get someone paid for if you do. we need a fix and that's hard to do when citizens are struggling to survive. foreign aid should be the first thing that is cut.

[msc545]

He has done murder in the Caribbean over and over again. The Israelis have systematically killed literally thousands of people in Gaza. They are all murderers, and they all need to be dealt with appropriately.

[Sevenpointfive]

@msc545 is their some proposal?

[msc545]

Trump belongs in a hospital. We need to stop selling arms to Israel and assisting their genocide.

[Sevenpointfive]

@msc545 i think that could be soon, but you never know. we need to stop everything israel

[Kelley1]

Nothing would happen because the senate would not convict.

[Anonymous]

If you focused on the good the president has done and is continuing to do for this country and for Americans, and not concocting all this nonsense, we'd all be better off.

You had your chance the last 4 years with a completely phony president that everyone was going along with, and you blew it. And since then, I haven't heard one helpful idea from any Democrat, only hatred for Trump. So we're not interested in anything you have to say.

[exitseven]

there would be a trial and he would be exonerated.

[goaded]

57 senators voted to convict last time, that's not exoneration, that's shitty politics from people ignoring their oaths and not voting to convict.

[exitseven]

if they voted to convict why was Trump not kicked out of office?

[goaded]

Because you need 67 votes in the Senate to convict an impeached president. Out of 100.

43 Republican Senators ignored their oaths of office. Some, like McConnell, claimed Trump should be prosecuted when he's out of office instead, some reportedly out of fear of reprisals from Trump supporters.

[exitseven]

@goaded Only Mitt Romney voted guilty and you cannot consider him a Repubblican.

[goaded]

No. Trigger warning: there's a fact coming up. There were only 48 Democrats in the Senate for that vote.

[goaded]

And Mitt Romney was the Republican nominee for president when Trump was still a Democrat.

[exitseven]

@goaded Mitt Romney has been jealous of Trump because Trump is a winner and he is a loser.

[goaded]

Again, Republican presidential nominee and only one of 7 Republican votes to convict

43 Republican Senators ignored their oaths of office. Some, like McConnell, claimed Trump should be prosecuted when he's out of office instead, some reportedly out of fear of reprisals from Trump supporters.

[Surely]

With so many of the democrats being investigated for their shameful and corrupt dealings are true. ? There wouldn’t be enough left to impeach Trump.
As I said. “If these democrats have done such things!”

[loveslongnails]

Nothing happens if he's impeached unless they have enough votes to remove him. If they did, then Darth Vader takes over.

[msc545]

And here comes another apologist for the convicted felon and murderer of 70 people. Not to mention the child molesting and the financial frauds and all the other things that he's done. And yet somebody is willing to publicly say that he's a wonderful person. I kind of wonder about that person's brain function. Like if it works at all and if it does what's wrong with it?

[DrPepper12]

Not before he extorted control of GOP finances, personnel & ALL THE DIRT Trump has accumulated on EVERY MAGA

[Shiprex]

He'd lie and deny, the mode if the right.

[Tamera952]

Third time a charm?

[msc545]

The third time is possibly going to be a charm, but even when this guy is out of office after impeachment (if that ever actually happens), he's going to be an ongoing, continual problem since he's a habitual criminal. Like other criminals, he needs to be in prison or a hospital, and we need to not hear from him again, at least until his mental disorder has been treated effectively.

[Sevenpointfive]

@msc545 isn't this "mental disorder" just a character flaw (s)?

[msc545]

No, character flaw is what non-professionals might call it. The truth is that it's a mental disorder, and it's characterized by some very different things than a character problem.