AOC claims Republicans are ‘radicalizing young boys.’ If that’s true, is it also fair to say Democrats have been radicalizing young girls?

[SolitarySolace]

MEGYN EXCORIATES AOC AFTER SHE BLAMES REPUBLICANS FOR ‘RADICALIZING’ YOUNG MEN IN AMERICA - www.megynkelly.com/.../

AOC claims Republicans are ‘radicalizing young boys.’ If that’s true, is it also fair to say Democrats have been radicalizing young girls? If you consider it wrong for republicans to supposedly be radicalizing young boys/men, is it equally as wrong for democrats to be radicalizing young girls/women?

Yes

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[Sal_Monella]

Just as a thought experiment, If Republicans actually are radicalizing young boys, what are they radicalizing those young boys to be? Hard working, respectful, Christian, responsible, good fathers?

[Ariesman81]

The audacity!!!

[loveslongnails]

Oh DO tell us... how are "Democrats" adicalizing young girls? Hmmm, are they telling them you should think for yourself and get a real education? Or they deserve to decide what's best for their own body? Or they shouldn't accept being raped by a man and just keep quiet?

Ok then, if that's "radicalization", then yes, guilty as charged, and glad for it.

[Ariesman81]

Yes, Democrats are indeed teaching girls that there are no consequences for poor choices. I mean, come on, if the condom fails, good thing you're on the pill. Oh, that didn't work, take plan B. Oh, still didn't work, good thing there's abortion. Hey, here's a novel idea... don't wanna get pregnant... stop fucking. The consequence of fucking is pregnancy. How about you teach them the truth rather than how to avoid responsibility.

[loveslongnails]

@Ariesman81 There you go again, talking bullshit without facts. Really? Hmm, that's the Democrats. Hmmm, that wouldn't have anything to do with "parenting", would it? Let's look at the US states with the highest teen pregnancy rates, shall we?
As always, I cite my source: worldpopulationreview.com/.../teen-pregnancy-rates-by-state

1) Mississippi
2) Arkansas
3) Oklahoma
4) Louisiana
5) Alabama
6) New Mexico
7) Nevada
8) Kentucky
9) Tennessee
10) Texas

Do we see a pattern here? Hmmmm... ALL RED STATES. Shall we see if there's any correlation with education standings? Eh, I don't need to bother. They're all in the lower 30%.

So nice job, Ariesman... Obviously not fucking means you won't get pregnant. No shit, Sherlock. But APPARENTLY, that's not happening in your GOP Republican controlled RED states, is it? Nooo.
How about you tell your GOP states to "teach them the truth rather than how to avoid responsibility." So now, congratulations, you have highly restricted abortions resulting in teen mothers with no support network, no fathers around, little or no help from the State, severely reduced help from the Feds, and a whole lot of "you should have thought about that BEFORE you opened your legs" being said to hormonal teens. Brilliant, huh?

So please... stop coming at us with unbackable claims, anecdotes, hyperbole and milk-carton philosophy while you accuse one side of political spectrum for doing EXACTLY what the OTHER side is ACTUALLY doing !! Wtf, man. Look something up.

[Ariesman81]

The source you quoted proves my point. It suggests using birth control as a means to limit pregnancy, not abstinence.
And it's impossible to know how they're gaining the data. Are these children being born? Because the majority of the states listed have banned abortion. Are aborted babies being counted in this data? I would expect Red States to have higher birth rates, simply from them being more religious and against abortion.

[loveslongnails]

@Ariesman81 I'm not debating red states have higher birth rates. They do, and one big reason is they have the highest teen pregnancy rates, which OBVIOUSLY means
1) your Republican parents are NOT teaching their kids abstinence, or not to fuck. In FACT, they're not teaching them much of anything at all because red States also have the LOWEST rankings in education.
2) Religion or religious beliefs are NOT keeping teen girls from getting pregnant! Quite the opposite statistically speaking!! The more religious the state, the higher the teen pregnancy rate!

Your grand mistaken "assumption" is that blue state parents are actively teaching young girls to go ahead and fuck all they want because you can always just get an abortion. This is the same bullshit that's been debunked a thousand times.

Higher birth rates in red states is not the result of "teens taking responsibility for their actions because mommy and daddy taught me that". They just don't have access to abortions like women in blue states do. As for abstinence, it has never been a successful method of birth control on this planet. It never will be.

[NaultD]

Do you not understand the nuisance of power dynamics? You have more physical power then majority of people in everyday life. It's not your fault but you still have to be responsible for it because you are responsible for yourself.

It's some spooky shit a group of people 3x stronger then you chanting "no means yes, yes means anal." No different then "don't drop the soap." In a prison for guys but these are local peers in a college.

[SolitarySolace]

Do you not understand the nuisance of power dynamics? Women can destroy a man’s entire life with a single unproven accusation that’s often treated as fact before any evidence is even looked at. It’s not your fault that the system is built this way, but you still have to be responsible for it because you are responsible for yourself. It’s some spooky shit when someone can walk into a courthouse, check a few boxes on an ex parte PPO form, and have armed officers show up to remove you from your own home, take your kids, and ban you from owning firearms—all before you even get to tell your side of the story. No different than a guy in prison worrying about dropping the soap, except this is everyday life, dating, marriage, co-parenting, the workplace, college campuses—local peers and institutions that will often believe her first and ask questions later.
And before anyone rushes in with “false accusations are rare” or “this is just whataboutism”: that’s the exact same thing people say to women who are scared to walk past a group of men at night—“most men aren’t rapists, stop demonizing all men.”
Either both fears are legitimate responses to real power imbalances that actually exist and occasionally get abused, or neither are. You don’t get to validate one and dismiss the other just because you like the politics of the first one better.

[DrPepper12]

What radical views is she pushing on women?

[blackeagle007]

People get radicalized because they allow themselves to be

[beefcakebradybatson]

Perhaps, but some girls would have radicalized without the Democrats.

[zagor]

I don't think either is true.