Which country is next on the list to be re-aligned?

[lightbulb27]

quite informative... only the 2nd year, Trump gonna clean house...

Cuba

Columbia

Mexico

Greenland?

But the element of surprise is gone. What will these countries do to protect their interests to sell drugs? form alliances with China/Russia?

[Snowman84]

America should respect the sovereignty of other countries.


Yanks stay the fuck out of
Greenland
Panama
Canada
Mexico
Columbia
Leave Venezuela


You’ve been warned, you try and Fuck with Canada we’ll make Vietnam a picnic in comparison.

[lightbulb27]

Trust me, we don't want Canada "that" bad... and it's weird they don't want us. My Canadian friends would love to leave but cannot. Alberta is working on it. But Greenland, will become a territory for sure one way or other.
I don't know how you all gonna protect yourselves from the nukes coming over the north pole.. you might want our space shield.

[msc545]

No sane human being in Canada would ever want to be part of the United States or would want to be a U. S. citizen.

[Snowman84]

A few morons in Alberta don’t represent Canada. If you want those fools invite them

[msc545]

The United States has never respected the sovereignty of other countries.

[Sal_Monella]

Iran first. There is no reason or value in forcing Canada's hand at all. There is good reason to believe that Saskatchewan, Manitoba and Alberta may come on their own.

Venezuela nationalized their oil business and stole our investments there. That was 1976.. 50 years ago. I think we should occupy Venezuela and take their oil for the next 50 years.

[msc545]

There is absolutely no reason to do anything to Iran. They have done nothing to the US that warrants this sort of response. In fact, in general, the US needs to stay the hell out of the internal affairs of other countries because it starts meddling. It usually leads to a war and subsequently, makes a mess and the US of course always loses the war. Enoughs is enough

[msc545]

@Snowman84 I think we have enough trouble as it is, and I'm going to decline to invite them if you don't mind. On the other hand, if you ask Trump, he probably would invite them, particularly if they're bad enough rich enough and crazy enough.

[msc545]

@Sal_Monella Nationalized is not the same thing as stealing.

[msc545]

I think maybe Greenland or Cuba. Probably Greenland. Trump has already alluded to that. And I think the last thing that Trump can tolerate is being defeated. That would be very likely to happen were he to invade Cuba. The Russians would respond in kind. The Russians don't fuck around, and Trump knows that.

[lightbulb27]

Odds are good for Greenland, I'm sure they are being romanced as we speak... possibly with nuclear subs.
but he even said in the interview, he's just going to let it collapse.
So my bet is on Columbia first. He will whack those cocaine funnel.

Making South America Great Again, like the Incas and Aztecs... or maybe better.

[msc545]

I hope it's not Colombia. Colombia arguably has the best-looking women in the Western Hemisphere.

[msc545]

No they'll make it better, like the Spanish did, by killing everybody they can find.

[lightbulb27]

have a friend that maried a Columbian. they are very happy and both very happy about the Venezualian change. They experienced some of the misery in Venezuala, a data case of one.
No they aren't going to kill everyone...

[msc545]

I think that you know better than to decide that the experiences and opinions of two people are not representative of everyone else.

[lightbulb27]

of course, but I see more than two. there's always an opposing side... question is how committed they are to their way of life. They may not want to give up their power... theyve been confiscating the food (military), so won't be easy to establish a new and better order. trump could have just let it continue rotting and go into the hands of china and russia. that don't make sense. hopefully Venezuala will be hungry for the freedom they get and have their country back.

[msc545]

I don't think that Trump's going to mess with China or Russia. They're too powerful, and he knows he'd look like crap if it ended up badly, which it's likely to do. In terms of Venezuela, I expect Venezuela to get good and sick and tired of Trump's bullshit and wind up in a revolt against him. They're not getting their country back, and they're not getting any more freedom. Then they have what they have now, which is likely to be far less.

[lightbulb27]

We don't agree on that.
I could see a Guerilla war ensuing...
It's a good opportunity for them to start fresh and get to a better place, I hope they take it and can implement it. Once oil is flowing, money is flowing, capital and investment gets flowing, jobs are flowing, food is available, that changes peoples minds.
they still won't want us there, but they won't have to come here anymore. The rest is keeping Russian missiles out of there.

[msc545]

I hope there's a guerrilla war. The U. S. always loses those. With Trump in charge, none of the things you described are going to happen.

[lightbulb27]

that's a ludicrous thing to say, to wish that upon them and wish Trump loses. Its just spite.
Like it or not, Trump did what other govts wanted and offered to pay others to do... get Maduro out of there because he had kidnapped Venezuela. So he took him out.
Now they can start over, in time, maybe have an election.
But a guerilla war means a lot more peopel suffer and die. Talk to your therapist about that hate.

[msc545]

I don't want any war any place any time but at certain points it's been necessary. A good example of that would be the American Revolution, which was in essence a guerrilla war at least to start with.

[msc545]

I mean, according to the British, I'm sure the founding fathers were actually terrorists in their eyes, and for good reasons.

[lightbulb27]

in hindsight would you, if in power and had forsight, remove hitler from power by capturing and putting him into jail for a variety of illegal activities, returning germany to a vote? Or let him take the course and wipe out 50 million humans?
im sure some people are still thinking it is justified to remove trump, but usually, that involves shooting him, which is wrong. trump arrested a guy that has a warrant and a bounty from the prior govt.
the other countries are not that case, but he will apply pressure.
Im sure it wasn't pretty getting the USA together in general... back in the day...

[msc545]

I think it's kind of an incorrect comparison to compare Hitler to Maduro. I would be more inclined, honestly, to compare Hitler to Trump, and not even that seems incorrect to me. At least it seems incorrect right now, but going forward, it may become more and more correct as it has in the last five years. That's worrisome. I know that Trump has a mental disorder, and I'm qualified to say that. That worries me even more since mental disorders like his are progressive and get worse and worse.

[Sal_Monella]

I thought it was Trump's fault.

[katiesmuff]

I think the next one to be realigned will be the US! I will not be shocked the moment I turn on a TV with a News Break that he and several others were just assonated and likely with a joint effort of several entities outside the US.

[NathanDavis]

IT IS COLOMBIA

not Columbia... but yeah, the Colombian president is very nervous right now and for obvious reasons, lol

and I am sure he's praying for the E-files to be buried or he might be next catch for the cover up

[lightbulb27]

yea it's a close call, but he's going to be calling the white house for sure. Better see videos of him blowing up cocaine factories soon or else.

[NaultD]

Hegseth has family history with cuba when Fulgencio Batista was in power. Cubans are a big voting block for don in Florida.

With how things went down in Venezuela, don got help from the Venezuela generals to make a show and let the cartels continue the regime more or less.

Cuba even with its old cold war era anti air is going to be a shit show for don. Like a boxing manager sets up a dive fight and the fighter jumps at an under weight fighter not paid off.

[lightbulb27]

interesting point so many cubans in florida, are there sleeper cells there that might attack with serious weaponry?
definitely got help from inside venezuela... good point, thats why the big guy had cuban body guards. he should have taken any deal to get out.

[msc545]

Cuba maintains a layered air defense system primarily composed of modernized Soviet-era surface-to-air missiles (SAMs), including the S-125 Pechora (SA-3 Goa) upgraded by Belarus onto T-55 tank chassis for mobility, alongside older systems like the SA-2 Guideline, and various anti-aircraft artillery and MANPADS (Man-Portable Air-Defense Systems) for lower-altitude threats, aiming to provide comprehensive coverage against aerial threats.

[lightbulb27]

@msc545 Good info. If any of that goes hypersonic, they will get blown up and warned.
As it is, they sink into despair without the oil. their only helper would be russia... and if russia wants to antagonize USA. they might.

[msc545]

If Russia gets involved, it's going to be worse than just antagonizing. The Russians are a lot tougher than the US is, and their technology is a lot more modern.

[lightbulb27]

@msc545 that's a long ways from home. what they do probably be in Europe but apply pressure over here. it's all risky. keep a cabin stocked in the mountains and enjoy the good ole days...

[msc545]

I don't really think so. Most of the Cubans living in Florida are pretty right-wing and big-time Trump supporters.

[msc545]

Yeah, that's a good idea. I think I'm going to move to Spain or someplace else convenient if that kind of stuff happens.

[lightbulb27]

@msc545 it's a good idea to have options...

[msc545]

Absolutely. Other than Spain, an even better place to move where I actually speak the language would be New Zealand or Australia. I've been to New Zealand. It's a gorgeous place with really nice people and a great environment.

[jshm2]

Lol, the USA is gonna be next. It has shown its Nazi streak and its former allies know it is going to try and pull a Mussolini move.

[exitseven]

Cuba has been ready for this for a long time. The standard of living in Cuba has been dismal since the Soviet Union was disbanded,

[lightbulb27]

yes I suspect most cubans would cheer, inside and out. might be some "die hards".

[exitseven]

They are all driving 52' pontiacs

[msc545]

I suppose you're going to tell us you know this because you've been to Cuba, right? I've actually been to Cuba, and the standard of living is not as dismal as you put it.

[msc545]

Yeah, 56 and 57 Chevys, which are exceedingly well maintained.

[DryGermanGuy]

Cuba has a higher life expectancy and lower infant mortality rate than the USA.

[msc545]

@DryGermanGuy yes, it actually does. Of course, this has a lot to do with there being 9 medical schools in Cuba and tons of doctors. So it's not that difficult to get medical care for your children. It's also a communist economy, so people don't have to pay for their medical care.

[exitseven]

@DryGermanGuy Thatis because they dodged the fentanyl epidemic. most of the early deaths in the US are self inflicted.

[msc545]

Again, this is something you know nothing about because you are not in Cuba. You keep alleging facts with it and you can't support them.

[Dargil]

Iran needs attention.

[Dargil]

None of the others except Greenland which is not a country. Maybe we should trade PR for it. And maybe we should make a deal for the Azores islands.

[msc545]

No, it does not, not unless you want a really serious war on your hands.

[msc545]

Like the Russians, the Iranians don't fuck around either.

[msc545]

So I think that should leave out Cuba and Iran.

[Dargil]

@msc545 Your ignorance of reality is very impressive!!

[Sal_Monella]

@msc545 Iran wouldn't last a month. The citizenry hate the leadership except the "students". Iran is either #2 or #3 (behind Mexico) on Trump's To Do list. We already did #1, We will be there until if or when dems take the white house. We will flood EU with natural gas and maybe save their asses from the Saracens and Barbarians.

[msc545]

@Sal_Monella have you been to Iran, or are you a military expert?

[Sal_Monella]

@msc545 We aren't discussing credentials, but actually yes. Since The Nam.

[msc545]

If you want to talk about certain things you need to have experienced them instead of just repeating what you've heard on Fox News. So I reiterate have you been to Iran? Are you a military expert?

[Dargil]

@msc545 I have experienced most of these things. I never watch Fox News.. I have been in combat. Have you? Are you a military expert? I am. You have no idea.

[msc545]

I have not been in combat, and I'm not a military expert. Where were you in combat, and what makes you a military expert?

[Dargil]

@msc545 Trained for it rigorously. Its like being there.
Military leaning university.

[msc545]

I'm sorry, but I really do not think it's like being there. A military meaning university is not the same thing as being in the military. I too went to a military school, but I would never characterize myself as an expert in things military.

[Dargil]

@msc545 of course. That's because you don't think at all all you do is feel.

[msc545]

No, it's because I'm not arrogant enough or stupid enough to think that going to university is the same thing as having combat experience.