Should ICE (U. S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement) be abolished?

[DexWest]

[FreyaRed]

No. I think every country needs a special unit to hunt illegal immigrant but it seems Trump will make GeStaPo or NKVD out of them while giving them free hand to do they want and impunity.
Remember, every dictator has loyal military unit that stands above the law to prosecute and to suppress/eliminate political enemies. This is how regimes work.

[Anonymous]

No, we need more ICE agents. But we need to defund legal immigration for the next 10 years. It's going to take 10 years to undo all of Biden's damage to America.

[jazzy34]

You’re so fucking stupid. 😂

[Opinion Owner]

“You’re so fucking stupid. 😂”

@girlsaskguys is this acceptable language from one of your members?

[Opinion Owner]

@jazzy34
You need to go read the site rules.

[Opinion Owner]

@jazzy34

You really deserve to get your account frozen for that.

[blackeagle007]

You kinda seem female

[Miristheiss]

Amen.

[Miristheiss]

@jazzy34
No YOU ARE.
If you think one country should just let 20,000,000-25,000,000 MILLION people flood in then you are an utter imbecile.
This is the stupidest thing a nation can do to itself.
Astonishing people support this.

[Miristheiss]

Well, since Trump won the election on the promise of securing the border and deporting the millions of illegals Biden let in... NO, they are doing exactly what we voted for.

Deport them.

Biden is a traitor for not following immigration law and not protecting our border.

Man there are lots of traitors these days.

[sawno]

No, to have a functional nation you need to be able to decide who is and who isn't allowed inside of it as there are limited resources and a specific culture that needs protecting.

[Danzigdawson]

According to trump, Greenland should not belong to Denmark "just because they had a boat land there 500 years ago".

America's boat landed only 400 years ago. So, when do trumpists fucking leave?

[sawno]

@Danzigdawson I don't acknowledge trumps claim to greenland as legitimate.

[sawno]

Unless they actually trade/vote for it of course.

[loveslongnails]

Well if that's your base premise, the USA has no culture and they're not a functional nation.

[loveslongnails]

That will NEVER happen. Greenlanders are educated.

[sawno]

@loveslongnails I don't agree the US has no culture. It has some great cultural elements. For example free speech, gun rights and other things that clearly say you value liberty. The freedom of religion is cultural. Being capitalist is cultural. Generally being a higher trust society although that does depend on which part of the US. Its all things to be proud off.

[loveslongnails]

Horseshit for the most part. Loose gun rights has led to a dangerous society where there are more guns than there are people, by far. But hey, we lead the world in Mass Shootings by a 13 to 1 margin over the second nation, which has had 8 in the last 25 years to the USA's 110. There's something to be PROUD of, hmmm?

There's little or no real free speech in the USA now, who are you kidding but yourself? You criticize the President, he comes after you to ruin your career. He doesn't like a night show host, he threatens to pull the license of the network. The State Legislature of Tennessee censored 2 black reps and a white woman because they didn't like them presenting facts and representing their constituency. I could type for hours and give examples.

Freedom "of" religion, yes to a point, but not freedom FROM religion, which was absolutely the idea of the founders. That's not happening now.

Capitalism isn't "culture"; it's an economic system. The US is capitalist until big corporations have sucked all the money out of their business and distributed it to investors, at which point it becomes "socialist" and We The People bail their asses out.

Higher trust? What on Earth are you talking about? This country was founded on the "oppress a color" principle. Geez, next thing you'll be selling us is what -- there actually HAS BEEN "Liberty and justice for ALL" ? Not primarily for the wealthy?

You weren't brought up in the USA. They have had THE best propaganda machine in place since the 1700's, whether it's been our own people or world perception. Either you're a paid troll or you just don't have much perspective on the truth of what's happening here, or probably, both.

[Chazmatazz269]

Nope. Laws must be enforced. If the Biden administration hadn’t opened up the border then we wouldn’t have had to increase enforcement like this. I’m in favor.
My main concern is whether or not ICE, DHS and other associated agencies will be meaningfully reduced once there’s an equilibrium. It’s impossibly rare for people and organizations to relinquish power once they’ve had it. I suppose that there’s room for reassignment into other facets of law enforcement, but time will tell.

[NoDecision]

This is why people voted for Trump. To deport illegals after Biden let in millions. They may need to clean up their act some, but it is because of all the antagonists and paid protestors that they have to act rough.

[FunkyMonkee]

You mean, because they're doing such a great job?
Isn't that the way of a lefty? They ALWAYS wanna get rid of the people that are doing a really good job so we can all go back to living like pigs in a shithole!

[msc545]

Oh hell yes. These people are completely out of control and they are ruining the country and they are abusing and killing people. So yeah, it should be abolished. Half of these people at this point need to be in prison actually.

[DexWest]

If yes, then you’re also okay with people bringing in antibiotic-resistant strains of the bubonic plague, because ICE’s Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) oversees customs enforcement against the smuggling of dangerous biological agents and materials that could pose threats to public health and national security, including potential biological weapons or pathogens like that.

[Danzigdawson]

Yeeeeshh... don't worry about it: RFK jr. is doing a damn fine job making everyone is unvaccinated. Measles is making a comeback and so is the whooping cough. With a bit of luck, polio will be back too.

Plus, Musk gutted the budget of most agencies with a big-ass chainsaw like a boss, so it'll be way easier for the plague to go undetected by understaffed and underfunded agencies.

What a great country!

[Danzigdawson]

@dexwest And by the way, less immigants doesn't mean less contagion. People travelling by plane from all around the world still venture in the US (for some reason) as tourists, on business trips etc.

I just can't wait to see the plan if there's antibiotic resistant bubonic plague outbreak: ignore it, diminish the severity of the situation, don't follow sanitary directives and declare it a conspiracy against trump. It worked fined with COVID.

[goaded]

@Danzigdawson Don't forget that USAID, as well as helping people in poorer countries stay alive and healthy, also acted as an early warning system for outbreaks in those countries, protecting the health of the US and the world. Gone now, along with hundreds of thousands of people, mostly children.

"The Trump administration’s decision to shut down the U. S. Agency for International Development (USAID) has resulted in hundreds of thousands of deaths from infectious diseases and malnutrition, according to Harvard T. H. Chan School of Public Health’s Atul Gawande.
...
In the article, Gawande cited an analysis in The Lancet that estimated that USAID assistance—aimed at combatting diseases such as HIV, tuberculosis, malaria, and polio, reducing maternal and child deaths, and fighting malnutrition—had saved 92 million lives over two decades.

The dismantling of USAID, according to models from Boston University epidemiologist Brooke Nichols, “has already caused the deaths of six hundred thousand people, two-thirds of them children,”"
hsph.harvard.edu/.../

[Danzigdawson]

@goaded It's a perfect storm of stupid decisions guided by anger!

Who else but MAGA? 😄😥

[DonaldDarko]

Maybe scaled back so we can fund actual RWDS

[blackeagle007]

Not diminished. But re-built. Instead of authoritarians in cities, they should just be more about immigration, not law enforcement! They should be unmasked and not be armed. That’s where law enforcement comes in.

[genericname85]

no. why? you like pedophile illegal migrants who human traffic and smuggle drugs into the country?

[888theGreat]

It should be used like it used to. Not as booted thugs beating and killing Americans

[exitseven]

No, ICE needs to be supported

[kavakava]

Hell no! They're doing a great job.

[IamRight]

Nope.

[Mike_Hum]

Nope.

[noohair]

No...

[Sal_Monella]

Why?

[Anonymous]

Yes.

[Pterodon]

Fuck no!