Do you think that Jeffrey Epstein was killed or had truly committed suicide?

[TonyMetal___86]

We all know that he was a monster, for what he did with under age girls and the long list of sh*tty stuff that he did on his cursed island, plus it was shocking knowing how much of the well known faces in the world had participated in his illegal demonic parties... etc

The question remains: did he actually commit suicide or there was a plan to finish him off because he became a burden and dangerous on a lot of wealthy and famous people, plus the ones who have positions in high authorities... etc

Now the whole world knows what the "Epstein files" are...

If you're innocent, than why you're scared if they reveal the whole documents 🤔

[Effably]

They did try to reveal the tapes to show he was not killed. Only to have it shown that there are minutes missing around when he died. Not to mention guards disappearing.

While of course cirumstantial, it seems like a textbook guilty. Likely killed. When you consider how many people of influence would have been panicking it makes even more sense.

There is also precedent where previous members of this pedophile ring were killee in prison when caught.

[TonyMetal___86]

What you said is logical and surely makes sense, they killed him to bury all his secrets with him...

[Kaneki05]

He's alive, he's the type to have multiple things set up so if died everything would come out cause why care at that point? When he 'died' nothing did...
So...
And he would've used this point to make sure nobody powerful did kill him he had to protect himself somehow, unless ya really think he was just winging it hoping nobody would threaten his life? Despite him knowing everything?

[TonyMetal___86]

That's one of the options...

[sage2021]

I believe that he was killed based on the guards not watching him and falling asleep. 🙊🙈🙉

[TonyMetal___86]

Too many clues that there was something fishy that happened the day he died 🤷🏻‍♂️

Plus the footage of the surveillance camera had skipped an entire minute... etc

[888theGreat]

Two guards sleeping at same time? No guard checks that night? Multiple cameras go out same night? Cellmate is let loose so he wouldn't be there that night?

[TonyMetal___86]

@888theGreat that's what i'm talking about, it's like they are telling you: "it's a big lie, don't believe it" hehe

The whole thing looks perfectly staged!

[sage2021]

Thank you for the MHO 🙂

[FreyaRed]

He was too dangerous for a lot of people in power.

[TonyMetal___86]

👍🏻👍🏻

[888theGreat]

Two theories :
1) He is alive , a person was switched in his place. He is still a live , hiding , working for Israel.
2) He truly died and his brother did identify his body or to explain theory #1 , His brother did same things he did and was forced to identify someone else as his brother.
Who knows? We know agents that work for Gov't entities have fake bios.

[TonyMetal___86]

If the government wants it to be a secret than no one will know the truth, because you're getting your facts from the media, so if they feed the media a fake story than you're going to be misconducted and believing in what they want you to believe in...

[AviatorTom]

It was suicide. He was a weak man who couldn't stand being held responsible for his actions. He decided to end it rather than have to face his victims.

[TonyMetal___86]

But why his death was so mysterious, i mean it's clear that there's something just not right, even if he died, is it really a suicide?

[David318578]

With all his connections and dirt he had on very powerful people? No chance he killed himself. He would if used his connections to get removed from jail rather then kill himself. So he was either killed or his death was faked.

[TonyMetal___86]

I believe so too!
I'm just wondering how can a mentally sick guy like him had gathered all his fortune 🤔

[Dargil]

I think he was murdered. Maybe someday we will find out that there was some kind of conspiracy to murder him. Since Bill Clinton was there, I wonder if Hillary committed another Arkancide.

[TonyMetal___86]

Similar to john f kennedy's story, but with a different version...

[NathanDavis]

even in the files...

his death certificate was written the day BEFORE he, allegedly... "died"

lol...

[TonyMetal___86]

Hillarious 🤣
... and the media stuffs people's heads with what they want them to believe in!

[msc545]

I think he probably was killed by those prison guards who entered his cell just before he was supposedly found dead, but in any event, what difference does it make? The man is dead at this point; he is not going to come back.

[TonyMetal___86]

That's true but also not right if someone gets killed without a verdict!

[msc545]

Well, I don't disagree with you, Tony. I think that the 3 ICE people who murdered two civilians in Minneapolis need to be tried, and if they are found guilty, they need to be punished too. If it happens, though, the government has no intention of even investigating them, much less indicting them or trying them for anything. They are just going to let it go. Where's the justice in that?

[TonyMetal___86]

I have been seeing this all over the net "ICE", i noticed that they are people in civilian outfits carrying weapons and clashing with people but tbh i don't even know what ICE means? who are they? Can you explain to me a little bit about them 🤔

Never heard of ICE before, yet i'm seeing a lot of stuff related to them on social media and news!

[msc545]

ICES is a government agency that's been around for a long time and has to do with immigration and customs enforcement. It was sort of an unknown, kind of small agency until Trump decided it was going to be his personal army, and that's where it's at now.

The people that you're seeing are not in civilian outfits; they're typically in military surplus clothing, although the composition of that clothing can vary from person to person. They're all carrying weapons, wearing masks, carrying and wearing helmets, and getting into anybody and everybody they can find. They are particularly interested in injuring and/or deporting anybody who doesn't have white skin. ICE is officially a United States government agency under the jurisdiction of Homeland Security.

[TonyMetal___86]

So it means they aren't a militia, it's an official government agency and they are doing their job...

We can't blame personels who are just following orders 🤷🏻‍♂️

I know what you mean, but this goes under someone's personal opinion, for example if our army here is doing a job that i personslly find it wrong, there is nothing that i can do because the problem goes back to the people who had voted for politicians who are giving them these kind of orders, 0r maybe you have voted for someone who had lost, so in fact they are doing what the majority of the americans wants them to do...

People had voted for Trump and Trump is giving orders to the ICE officials to carry on with these sorts of missions and these agents are just doing what they were asked to do, whether some likes it or not!

In my personal opinion, if that's what's really happening than it's a shame, because in the end these are people, ordinary people, why woukd i hurt someone if they aren't causing any trouble, as long as you're following the rules than everyone gets to be treated as the laws says...

If one of these agents went on doing something personal because he hates someone than for sure he shall be questioned and prosecuted...

Even if i have my own army, i must make sure that no one does something wrong, there's an agenda and everyone is working according to it...

[msc545]

I don't think their job is to violate people's rights or to physically or psychologically abuse them, and yet they are doing all of that.

After World War II, many of the Nazis that were captured and tried to use the excuse that they were just following orders. Here you can see how well that worked out for them as many of them were executed by the Allies. In the United States military Code of Uniform Justice, there is a provision that says that soldiers are forbidden to follow illegal orders and must refuse them.

[TonyMetal___86]

I understand, but if there's no one who can condemn them or stop them, then what?

I agree with you that it's no one's right to treat others like that if they aren't doing anything wrong, even if they have orders, i believe that they be gentle and be respectful with others, only they don't obey, they start using their rights to force them but step by step, what i saw is something horrible, a woman was driving her car, she's a zero threat and yet they stopped her in a wild way, she started crying and they broke her passenger window and she was shaking out of fear because they were all wearing masks and heavily armed, plus they were angry and won't hesitate to shoot her, at first i thought that it's some sort of militia than i read ICE, so i was confused because i saw no one treats the citizens in this way unless they were a mafia, a gangster or a militia... etc

[msc545]

Well, yes, I think you hit the crux of the problem. There is literally no one to stop them.

[In_Trance]

I don't think he's a real person or this is a real story. It's been talked about for years and there's been no changes. No files, no arrests... nothing. Sure if it's real he could be in Isreal... because fkn Jews look after their own... especially the kiddie diddlers.

I call bullshit

[TonyMetal___86]

Who knows for sure 🤷🏻‍♂️

[OneViewpoint]

The 1% pulled Epstein's ass out of the fire once. For self serving reasons. The second time they weren't feeling merciful. Jeff became a liability they weren't willing to tolerate. Jeff had an "accident" in his jail cell.

[TonyMetal___86]

What kind of an accident? 🤔

[OneViewpoint]

The guards don't know what happened. It's a mystery.

[TonyMetal___86]

True 👍🏻

[OneViewpoint]

That was sarcasm by the way.

[TonyMetal___86]

Whether he's dead or alive,. i am sure that was something fishy going on!

[Anonymous]

I believe he's still alive hiding out in Israel. With the help of those powerful and close to Epstein, he faked his own suicide.

[TonyMetal___86]

Maybe, but it doesn't always have to do with a conspiracy theory...

[Opinion Owner]

In this case it does. Him still being alive is no different then him being killed instead of committing suicide. This Mortician analyzed the post death photo of Epstein, it's not consistent with how a dead person should look, and she's had to retrieve a dead person from a prison before who was killed my their cell mate.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9exzWqnuPmg

[TonyMetal___86]

If he's alive now, is it possible than no one in these past 7 years had noticed him in public or anywhere else 🤔

[TonyMetal___86]

*that

[msc545]

That is absurd. There's no way he is in Israel

[beefcakebradybatson]

K-I-L-L-E-D !!!

[TonyMetal___86]

👍🏻👍🏻

[Mike_Hum]

Killed.

[TonyMetal___86]

That's what i thought!