How credible is the Epstein file claim about Trump and a 14-year-old girl?

[888theGreat]

Yep, Epstein sent Trump a 14 year old girl and Trump pushed her head towards his exposed penis Said this is what good little girls do. She started sucking but clipped his wee wee with her teeth and he slapped her and said get this little bitch out of here. So , now what do you think?

He should be in prison

He should resign as President

She should come forward and tell story to public.

She should sue him

All the above.

[msc545]

I think it's credible enough to warrant his arrest and triad for these allegations, just like any other man would be. If he's found guilty, he needs to go to prison as any other man would. It's time we stop treating this guy like there's something special about him. Actually, I take that back. There is something special about him. He is a horrible criminal and a horrible human being, but we still need to treat him with fairness and equity- and he deserves justice and due process - you know - the things he won't provide to other people.

[888theGreat]

worse case for Trump would be House Arrest

[msc545]

You might be right, but I'm trying to figure out why. I mean, Mar-a-Lago or whatever the name of that place is, is not exactly a dump.

[Sevenpointfive]

he's going to flee to russia. i don't see it going any other way.

[BonzoInBitburg]

Trump and Epstein were friends for over 15 years. Anyone who thinks Trump isn't guilty is willfully ignoring facts.. Nobody is friends with someone for more than 15 years if they don't have a lot in common and are of similar character.

[888theGreat]

Like a person running for their life and someone is chasing them with a knife and they refuse to open their door and she gets stabbed to death.

[msc545]

There is no evidence either way. Just because somebody complained about it doesn't mean that the complaint is true.

[madhatters4]

if the files are credible enough to bring the clinton's in for testimony, have a royal prince ousted, and CEOs and other corporate leaders stepping down from positions, then the claims against trump are credible.

he doesn't deserve to be anywhere near the white house.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

Hearsay is not supposed to be admissible in a court of law. If you want to press charges against Trump, you'r going to need to trust the words of a 14 years old against an established billionaire president.

Doing so will set a disasterous precedent where any woman can sue any man by simply screaming "rape/statutory rape" with no physical evidence whatsoever.

I'll pass.

[msc545]

This is not hearsay. Hearsay is an entirely different concept. This is just verbal accusations, and the disastrous precedent that you talk about is already in place.

[exitseven]

total BS. This shows just how desperate the democrats are. With the current successes of the last year a new wave of Conservatism has swept the county. Young people are finding religion again and even some movie stars have come out to support President Trump. Democrats have been polling at record lows and the current disaster that has been the Mamdani administration has illustrated that Communism does not work.

[DryGermanGuy]

Democrats have flipped 37 seats in various parliaments since the 2024 election. Republicans flipped 0. Either you want to bring up mules and Jewish space lasers again or you are just denying reality.

[exitseven]

@DryGermanGuy none of those seats matter. Republicans have a majority of governors. Some of those were flipped.

[Sevenpointfive]

it's really too bad he's at the end of his life

[Likes2drive]

lol, this is so fake, I don’t know where you find so much fake news , this is all fake coming from democrats that keep trying to discredit him , this is the most ridiculous one yet and an old one too

[888theGreat]

Nope it is real. I believe true

[888theGreat]

There was someone else that also stated same thing. She was there and says it happened

[Likes2drive]

Yet no one has any proof, women lie for many reasons, I was married to one for 17 years

[888theGreat]

The kid tried to but Trump threats caused her to drop case. Trump said he would get her family if she ever said anything.

[Likes2drive]

This is all hearsay, nobody really knows what happened, Trump can get any woman he wants basically, he’s been married three times to beautiful women, why would he bother with underage girls? There’s no logic to that. When he found out about Epstein, he reported him so there’s all kinds of conflicting news reports and nobody knows what to believe anymore. I’m just looking at the logical point of view., he certainly doesn’t need to be getting any kind of sex from young women, when you can get sex from any mature woman back in the days because this is all stuff that was supposedly happening many many years ago

[888theGreat]

You think Ivana and Melania are beautiful? Are you kidding? Most of Trump's women can't even speak English , worked in adult industry and only married him for money or to get to US. They used him. The relationships are not even real but conditional. They won't have sex with him , so he forces himself on little girls. They are easy to trick and are scared to say no.

[Likes2drive]

You know that’s not true so I don’t know why you’re saying that, Melania is actually very pretty and does speak English very well

[msc545]

I don't really care if some woman lies about Trump and what he did and he is convicted on that basis. He deserves to be convicted on so many other things that one more is not going to be that big a deal from my standpoint. I would not want to see him falsely convicted if he hadn't done anything, but he's done so many things that one more conviction is not that disturbing. Whether it's false or not. The right wing does not care if they falsely convict people so why should the left wing care?

[Likes2drive]

@msc545 I guess they need to prove it with real evidence on either side if anything is true

[SeekerOfTruth007]

Hearsay and word of mouth is not evidence.

[Likes2drive]

@SeekerOfTruth007 I know, exactly my point

[msc545]

Well you were willing to say publicly that it's fake which makes me believe that you have some evidence supporting that contention. Hopefully. If you don't have such evidence, I'm wondering why you are saying it's fake. Please explain. Thank you.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

@msc545 There's a law in the Bible which requires 2 or 3 eye-witnesses and physical evidence to bring rape charges, because any random woman could accuse anyone and everyone of rape otherwise.

[Likes2drive]

@SeekerOfTruth007 that’s true

[msc545]

@SeekerOfTruth007 well, it's all fine. I understand what you're saying, but it doesn't really matter what the Bible says in this case. There are no eyewitnesses, apparently, or if there are, there's only one that we know about. There's no physical evidence of any kind that we know about. I'm not sure that it's not true, and I'm not sure the it is true.

[msc545]

The president you talked about is the same thing as the meToo crap. That ruined the lives and careers of so many men.

[Anonymous]

I’m not a fan of Donald Trump but this alleged claim was so long ago I’m guessing the evidence to prove or disprove the story is probably long gone.

[Opinion Owner]

Did this alleged story take place in the 1980s?
If so the evidence to prove or disprove the claim probably is gone.

[888theGreat]

sexual assault on a minor can be preosecuted 50 years later

[Opinion Owner]

He said she said is not evidence

[888theGreat]

Another girl backs up what happened. Maybe your little girl will face the same and then you will believe it. Guess what when people like you call these girls liars because you don;t want to hear them men will do it to your little girl and people will call her a liar.

[Opinion Owner]

I did not say they are liars. I’m just saying there likely isn’t proper evidence

[XXblack88]

If true then she should come forward suing someone won't help emotionally just with money, but Trump is innocent till proving guilty.

[888theGreat]

Yet Trump's ICE its guilty until they can prove otherwise

[XXblack88]

What? their removing illegals how does that make them guilty?

[888theGreat]

Trump's thugs just take Americans that are Hispanics and arrest them even though they are Americans.

[XXblack88]

? when/ where?

[888theGreat]

Everywhere /all the time/now

[msc545]

Los Angeles, Minneapolis. Many places. Are you deaf and blind?

[XXblack88]

@msc545 I been trying to not watch as much news lately it's very tiring to listen to a bunch of old farts fight over even the smallest things. and it's not just politics

[Sal_Monella]

How credible is anything you say about trump?

[888theGreat]

100% true

[Avicenna]

Nothing you post is credible in the least

[888theGreat]

Keep denying the Truth , it is coming out , Trump will be impeached. This is Trump's Watergate

[Avicenna]

Another day, another piece of utter BS from you. If you had any self-respect, you'd be embarrassed by your frothing stupidity.

[KostasKouvalis]

Come on. Even Clinton debunked these claims

[Kelley1]

Where is the proof?

[888theGreat]

A witness there said it happened. So 2 say yea to Trump's no

[888theGreat]

Epstein Files and documents filed. And witnesses testimony and statements. Why do you think Trump is attacking every country right now?

[Kelley1]

Hearsay, let alone if from haters, cannot be trusted. Without a photo, video, or audio, or creditible witnessess, proof probably doesn't exist, even in the unlikely event it happened.

[888theGreat]

Yep Trump can do anything and you will support it

[888theGreat]

When someone forces their penis down a little girls throat , they don't take pitchers and you erase film from cameras.

[msc545]

I take the point. There has to be some convincing evidence of this before we can do anything to punish this man, including house arrest. At this point there is no convincing evidence but we've not had a trial yet. A trial is how we test to see if there is evidence. Everyone deserves a trial after being accused. Trump has been accused and therefore deserves a trial. I don't know whether he did anything or not but I think at the end of the trial if it ever happens we would all know better.

[Kelley1]

They keep their videos, so they keep getting off on it. Since there is no video, it never happened.

[msc545]

Kelley neither you nor I nor anyone else knows if there are any videos at this point. Since there is a lack of evidence, this needs to be taken to trial and people need to be questioned and evidence needs to be presented just like we do in any other criminal case where accusations have been made. I don't know if there's any proof or not and neither do you.

[beefcakebradybatson]

EXTREMELY !!!

[Mike_Hum]

Zero percent true.

[msc545]

Neither true nor false. There is no evidence either way except for a complaint by somebody. A complaint does not constitute evidence.

[Mike_Hum]

@msc545 that's not stopping you clowns from running with it. so shut the fuck up.

[msc545]

No, you will never find any place where I posted that said Trump was guilty. Cursing at me and see what happens.

[Mike_Hum]

@msc545 oh man what's going to happen? ? I hope nothing bad? go fuck yourself.