What has the US war with Iran actually accomplished so far?

[Anonymous]

[KostasKouvalis]

For the first time in history, we have Muslims and Jews working together towards a common goal

[888theGreat]

What are you smoking? They hate each other more than any time in history

[goaded]

Higher oil prices, thousands of deaths, a thousand years of hostility to the US.

[goaded]

On the up side, they're probably not as pissed at the British any more.

[RavVid]

Fairly much the objectives set. Aside from Fordow and the metalization plant earlier other infrastructure to process uranium have been disrupted.

Ability to make missiles and launch have been badly degraded.

Having said that though, the knowledge to do these things still exists because that is in peoples minds.

From conventional military perspectives what air force Iran had has been destroyed, what navy they had has been destroyed and most of their air defense has been destroyed.

Iran's proxy forces have been badly weakened though not yet eliminated.

So a considerable amount has been achieved.

[Asker]

You have no idea what has or has not been destroyed. You're basing everything you've said on U. S. propaganda. Maybe you should stop paying attention to what the U. S. Defense Department tells you because they lie like crazy.

[RavVid]

It is entirely true my security clearance is insufficiently high to see what has been destroyed. But then most everybody's is.

We do know that US bombs and missiles are highly precise with circular errors of a few metres 50% of the time. So the US is going to hit close enough to what it is aiming at most of the time and destroy the target. Even if underground. The British earthquake bombs were able to do this in WW2 with 1940's. tech.

The question than is whether the US is aiming at the right targets since it is going to hit the target almost certainly. There certainly appears to be good intelligence. The Israeli's have even known where specific regime figures where going to be at specific times.

With Fordow the US watched it being constructed for 7 years. You can reasonable expect other facilities to have been watched as well.

Overall as well as highly accurate bombs/missiles it would seem target selection will have been pretty good too.

You can yell it's all a lie and everybody is lying but that doesn't go far. The above is far more based.

[Asker]

You know what has or has not been destroyed or preserved. You are simply parroting U. S. military propaganda once again.

[888theGreat]

They are still enriching Uranium. They have most of their missiles ready to go. First you would have to know how many they had and US didn't and still doesn't. Israel didn't either. We were wrong about their ranges too. US got checkmated.

[Asker]

If you are betting on US military superiority based on the quality and quantity of us weapons, you are going to lose. That whole routine about basing the value of weapons on the cost of those weapons has repeatedly turned out to be a serious miscalculation.

[RavVid]

@888theGreat @888theGreat They could be still enriching Uranium. They could be still making centrifuges for all I know. But what we also know is that a rotor spinning at 100,000 rpm is extremely delicate and won't handle blast shocks well. And is extremely delicate to manufacture - not something that can be knocked up in a garage. Which is why factories are being destroyed.

I am more doubtful on your claims on range as capability to reach Paris & London was suggested. The weight of the warhead is a key factor. Missiles need launchers though and they have been degraded.

You don't address the essential and fundamental point that appeasement didn't work with the autocratic powers in WW2, so why would it with Iran? Would you want Iranian nuclear ICBMs aimed at US cities?

[RavVid]

No my position is far more logical than an emotive one about cost of weapons. Simply the circular probability. If it is few metres than you will hit what you aim at. It then becomes a matter of knowing what to hit.

[lightbulb27]

it destabilized the world and set us up for the next world war imho. At a minimum, major degredation risk globallly and conflicts.

More like asking "what has pullng the pin on the grenade achievied"

Lets hope it goes better than that. But I dont know that all the kings horses and all the kings men can put the old world order back together again and hold it.

[Dargil]

Air Force and Navy, Gone.
Missile and drone factories, Gone.
Nuclear development capacity, decimated.
Theocratic leaders DEAD.
Combat practice for our military.
Revenge for 47 years of war.
How are we doing?

[Asker]

None of that has happened. Those are all lies by Trump. None of it has happened. What has happened is that Trump has lost.

[beefcakebradybatson]

Dargil's brain:Non-existent !!!

[888theGreat]

another retarded post. How are they setting mines if they have no ships? They are still producing Drones and Missiles because they are under mountains under ground and we can't get to them. They have replacement the son which was predetermined. SO , he was number 2 all along. You belive Trump's bull shit. When did you get that Doge check trump said that too. Where are they?

[Asker]

Do you know all this because you've been there and you've seen it, or you know it because Trump told you this? Are you really that naive?

[NathanDavis]

the richest just got a lot richer...

but that was the actual purpose all along...

[Maddie248]

All it's goals. The main one is preventing Iran from having material to make a bomb

[Asker]

Why do you think the US is entitled to have a nuclear weapons and yet the Iranians are not according to you?

[Maddie248]

They'd use it. We don't

[Asker]

You have no way of knowing what they would or would not do, but when you say that we wouldn't use it, I'm going to point out you. We've used it twice in the past on Japan. Remember? did you go to school long enough to learn that?

You have absolutely no idea what other countries would do, but the track record of the US is a good indication of what we are capable of.

[Maddie248]

No i never learned that. What is Japan? It's probably outside the US so it doesn't matter. Are you from the United States of Japanesees?

[Asker]

Even if you write this, I guarantee that they are continuing to exercise their right to refine as much uranium as they possibly can as an insurance policy against of attack by the United States. They aren't doing it because they love uranium. They are doing it because they are rightfully afraid of the crazed policies of Donald Trump.

[Maddie248]

Yeah the orange devil. They are afraid he might attack them (hypothetically) and that's why. We would have been so much better off with the giggling girl and her tampon friend. The enormous amount of people who elected Trump are all dangerous to democracy for voting the wrong way

[Asker]

Good God, you really didn't go to school. You don't even know basic geography.

[Spencer10]

Tactically it has significantly degraded Iran's military. Strategically not much.

[strawberryapple]

“Significantly” doesn’t seem like the right word to me. 🤣
Oh, and what was the “strategy”?

[Spencer10]

@strawberryapple Strategy was Regime change, elimination of nukes and no longer a threat to its neighbors. None of these have been achieved significantly.

[888theGreat]

yet they continued to bomb Israel

[beefcakebradybatson]

Taking Americans' mind off The Epstein Files !!!

[goaded]

[888theGreat]

Put US in weaker position and Iran in a stronger position

[slatyb]

It's killed a lot of innocent people.

[loveyouoak]

It has shown how powerful the US is.

[Asker]

Yes, in other words, not very powerful at all, despite the trillion dollars a year we spend on weapons that don't work or work just a little bit. It's time that people figured out that the amount you spend on a weapon does not automatically indicate its effectiveness.

[Asker]

Yes, not very powerful at all

[Twalli]

Nothing