Do you think that Trump will leave office peacefully after his term is up?

[msc545]

I ask because he is fortifying the front of the White House and trying to build a subterranean bunker beneath his precious ballroom. Remember what happened the last time he didn't get what he wanted before you answer...

Yes, hje wioll leav peacefully and won't cause any trouble.

No - he is not going to leave peacefully, and he will cause a lot of trouble.

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I don't know if Trump is going to leave peacefully or not but my instincts tell me he won't. I really want to be wrong about this. I'm afraid I might be right.

[loveslongnails]

I think he'll drop dead before his term is up. However it happens, I'm sure there will be a post that says "he died peacefully in his sleep, surrounded by his loved ones". That means only the diaper girl, Natalie Harp, will be there.

[888theGreat]

He might be impeached after elections go terrible for Republicans. He might go into a coma before 4th year. Will he leave if impeached?

[msc545]

He may leave if he's impeached, but I think it's more likely that he will have to be physically removed from the White House. It's equally likely that his supporters will form an army, and we will have a mini civil war.

[888theGreat]

Not enough men. They would be squashed and Trump would be charged with Treason.

[ChiTown33]

Define, "peacefully". I don't think he'll try what you're implying. But do i think he'll try some janky 💩 to get a 3rd term? Of course. And then we'll see how much of America is loyal to Trump and how much of it is loyal to the last 250 years. Honestly, i think the state of the country and economy will play the biggest part in that. I mean if Trump pulls a rabbit out of his hat over the next couple years. Then America might get behind him for a 3rd term. I think he's got a lot of ground to make up for that to happen though. He can't force capitchulation from Iran no matter how much he may want it. And he risk enraging the world if he goes inro Iran. All Iran has to do is wait him out. So time is not on his side.

[msc545]

This is not about Iran

[msc545]

The definition of peacefully is without violence or trouble or civil unrest. Is that too complicated for you?

[ChiTown33]

It's about the economy, which is about oil, ergo IRAN. Some people would frame Jan the 6th as peaceful ergo permissable. I don't agree, but that just shows you the divide in this country. Is this too complicated for you?

[msc545]

It seems irrelevant but please explain

[Ill_made_Knight]

He will attempt every filthy shenanigan his team can come up with to cancel the election. That will fail. Many other possibilities depend upon him wangling his way back onto the ballot. Which would open pandora's box of possibilities. Insofar as just refusing to leave? He would have to have the unflinching support of the military to install himself that way. He is currently urinating all over them with historic disdain. He's also trying to buy himself a personal guard comprised of J6 rioters that have been pardoned and paid by his $1.776 bn. slush fund, but that's up in the air. Can't see a way he stays if the people say no, but the damage he's already done will take decades to heal and even then the US will be heavily scarred by the experience.

[Sevenpointfive]

i think this is part of the setup. he's trying to create such a big fuss about staying. that the threat of impeachment is non-existent. so much so that he's running again in 2028! this is all to make you forget about what he's done. he might finally say fine i'll leave. and people will be happy until they remember that he's supposed to be in prison. he really just needs to be arrested right after that conviction or he'll flee. he'll claim immunity, but putin will embrace his friend krasnov.

[andreasderjuengere]

He will attempt to cause troble, but will not succeed.

Same as last time.

Some idiots who take sides in this attempt will perhaps suffer. But they can hide in a costume to get over it.

I suggest a phantasy animal, or a fastfood clown as said costumes.

[thegreenyogi]

No I don't beleive he will. I heard he is contemplating a third term even.

[NathanDavis]

it will not be up to him...

not his choice, not his call, definitely not his command...

now, if someone else... whatever else group of people behind Trump's puppet position even tries to seize the presidency

they will definitely find out otherwise

[msc545]

I think he will certainly try. I think the bunker that he keeps trying to build and the reinforcements at the White House are part and parcel of what he is planning.

[NathanDavis]

he has never had the military support though...

even if he did... a bunker has never protected a leader, bunkers are actually tombs

[Ill_made_Knight]

Your statement about military support and bunkers is bourne out 100% throughout history

[msc545]

He doesn't need the military's psychological support. All he needs to do is keep doing what they've been doing, which is following his orders.

[NathanDavis]

that's not accurate... there's been dozens of commanders who have quit first, before following his orders

and dozens more fired, because they didn't follow their orders

and that's the best sign you could get from your military commanders

so far, pretty much every order has been to invade and intervene elsewhere, which is just another day for the USA military but asking them to "seize" the USA, lol... good luck with that

[msc545]

Not dozens, and it's not about the commanders. It's about the troops.

[NathanDavis]

I guess we'll find out in 2028...

and hopefully you will be wrong

that's what we would both want, right?

[msc545]

That is definitely what we both want. I agree.

[msc545]

I hope with all my heart that I am wrong about this one. If I'm not, the results for that are too awful to contemplate.

[lightbulb27]

dang, I dunno. Possibly not... not sure he lives that much longer though.

[msc545]

He does not look all that unhealthy.

[lightbulb27]

yes, and highly motivated. but he is old, very over weight. he's totally fat. Heart attack or aneurism not out of the question... stress. I have to wonder what causes stress for a personality like that, have any insights? They don't think ike people with empathy, it's more stressful when they don't have the ability to smack around others. maybe bordedum is stressful?

[msc545]

Boring is actually extremely stressful.

[Kelly6]

@msc545 No

He will leave as a kid leaves candy shop

[CaptainSmartass]

I doubt it.

Simples...

[jamesgoldman]

Of course but he'll be bagged and tagged