I told MMA guy he didn't know how to win a real street fight. What do you think of this?

[SeekerOfTruth007]

So this BJJ/MMA guy on Youtube is talking about "MMA is the closest thing to winning a real fight" nonsense.

That's nonsense. There are over 30 major rules and over 100 banned techniques in MMA. We used to spar in the karate dojo with fewer rules than what they have in MMA actually. There are no rules and no referee in a self-defense situation.

I told the MMA guru that while he was trying to rear naked choke me in a real fight, I'd grab a handful of his testicles and squeeze and twist very hard, or else rip his eyeballs out, and we'll see who gives up first.

I'm a brown belt in Okinawan karate and Japanese Ju Jitsu, but the only reason I'm not a multi-degree black belt is I kept failing the kata portion of the black belt test. In terms of fighting, I used to beat two 2nd Dan black belts attacking me simultaneously in a true 1vs2 handicap match. One of them was a Marine Veteran (Marines are overrated).

Anyway, there's nothing in MMA I haven't already seen in a fight or spar, and there's plenty in an Okinawan karate and JJJ dojo that no MMA fighter even knows.

I'd dislocate that guy's arm if he tried to RNC me.

Updates

6 mo

By the way, women know this, grabbing a man by the nuts and squeezing and twisting is so brutally effective as a fighting technique, that it's actually banned under penalty of death in the Hebrew Bible... even in self-defense or defense of another person.

Updates

6 mo

Before someone else makes a stupid comment, in 2016, i actually tapped out two pro MMA fighters repeatedly in the Gracie gym. One was a 2nd degree Gracie Black belt and the other was a 3rd degree Gracie Black belt. I tapped them out 3 times and 2 times respectively, and I was literally 16 years out of practice before that day. I tapped the 2nd degree black belt ONE HAND two times in a row in rolls by using the Front Wrist Lock, I also tapped him a 3rd time with the Disarmer.

[Anonymous]

I do MMA, karate, judo, boxing etc myself. I was trained by and with a lot of the old school MMA guys, thats guys with backgrounds in karate, wrestling, boxing, judo, jujitsu, muay thai, kickboxing etc you name it as well as guys that switched to MMA from other martial arts. You know black belts, wrestling champs, golden glove champs. Guys that did compete and are competing at the highest levels of traditional martials and MMA. What they say from experience that MMA gets rid of all the nonsense techniques in traditional martial arts and and most of the failing in sports martial arts like boxing or kickboxing. Like the shotokan karate black belt who had trained for years getting knocked out in an altercation with a champion boxer from a single left hook, theyd only trained against other karate practitioners and he didn't see the hook coming. Or the guy who competed in muay Thai for years tried out in a Burmese boxing competition in early 2000, got knocked unconscious by repeated headbutts. Another was the bjj jujitsu guy that got overpowered by a larger heavier man and slammed to the ground and ended up in hospital.

there's also the youth factor, a younger fitter, stronger man trained in mma is easily going to put down the older guy trained in karate and jujitsu because he knows all those techniques already knows what to do.

[Karate_Guy]

That's awesome that you do MMA, karate, judo, boxing. I'd love to chat sometime. Please DM me. :-)

[Anonymous]

Do you honestly and seriously expect anyone to believe a single solitary word of this complete and utter nonsense.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

i have a plague from 2000 proving my official rank in Isshinryu Karate and Japanese ju Jitsu, which also technically qualifies me to assistant instruct within the rules of the style too.

I can show it to you, but you probably won't believe that either.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

Here you go. I'm not a liar. i'm a 3rd degree brown belt/1st kyu in Isshinryu karate and Japanese Ju Jitsu, and I have tapped out 2nd and 3rd degree Gracie black belt pro fighters before in fair rolls. I mean technically two of the rolls i started in an inferior position and tapped out a pro fighter with over 20 pro wins.

www.youtube.com/.../_vHWIA8k9pc

[jshm2]

Lol, you're taking different disciplines. There is no rational way to compare.

As for "street fight" That is a different situation entirely. You can train for a match, you cannot train for a sudden street fight. Often a street fight would happen when you are least prepared.

Also never take youtube posts seriously. They guys are making content, often to rile up guys like you, so you shitpost like crazy. It gets them paid.

[NathanDavis]

yep... when no rules allowed and out there at the streets

I could beat Anthony Joshua and that Paul dude too at the same time..

and then Pacquiao, Tyson on his prime and Bruce Lee as well... as every, single, one of the Gacie brothers too... and all that before breakfast

easy

[SeekerOfTruth007]

No rules fights often start with the aggressor hitting the defender in the back of the head with a beer bottle or pipe or brick or rock, or stabbing with a knife or shooting with a gun.

I just didn't cover every conceivable scenario in my OP.

The only rules we had when we sparred full contact in the dojo in the 1990s and 2000 were these:
No biting
No eye gouge (even though we practiced eye gouges in the mirror)
No throat jab (even though we practiced throat jabs in the mirror)

Other than that, you were allowed to do just about anything in a full contact spar back in the day, and groin attacks were encouraged, not banned.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

The funny thing is none of them know anything about submissions, and we've proven that pro boxers fail when leg kicks and submissions are allowed.

[NathanDavis]

I would bite all of their ears off too... Tyson got nothing on me

[AI Opinion]

Your perspective highlights the distinctions between regulated sports like MMA and unregulated self-defense situations. MMA is designed to ensure safety while testing skills, which is why it has rules and banned techniques. In uncontrolled environments, instinctual, and potentially dangerous, actions come into play, like those you mentioned. However, relying on specific techniques can be unpredictable due to the chaotic nature of real fights. Having diverse training backgrounds like yours is valuable, but adaptability in high-stress, real-world situations is key. Stay confident yet humble, as each style offers different insights. 💪

[CoolCutie]

Women’s self defence classes are totally without rules: they teach us to blind, or even castrate a guy rather than let him rape us! And most women seem totally OK with that.

[Hagar88]

MMA guys that train regularly and compete tend to do well in street fights.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

While that's true, a few years ago, B. J. Penn got KO'd by an unskilled fighter in a street brawl. It's kind of sad too, because he has a severe case of Schizophrenia and paranoia, which has become a public spectactle.

Anyway, any fight training whatsoever will be "better than nothing" when it comes ot a self-defense situation, but it's just that sports fighting is always going to be sub-optimal to real self-defense training.

[laraWM]

It's quite unexpected 😅

[In_Trance]

I think he would fuck you up

[SeekerOfTruth007]

I think I would fuck him up. I know everything he knows and I know another 130 or so submissions he doesn't know.

[ABC1x1x]

You are stupid