Are you actually ready to face a skilled, bigger attacker in real self-defense?

[SeekerOfTruth007]

Here, I explain why "Unskilled Attacker" is a MYTH, and you need to be prepared to beat an expert who might be bigger than you, might surprise you somehow and land the first punch or two, might even attack you from behind, and might be amped on drugs on top of that.

https://www.youtube.com/live/IBf8jscfWA4?si=FBX9VK4SDAPux5Zj

Many Self-defense drills assume an "unskilled attacker", but real fight science has been exposed more and more in recent decades, so your attacker probably is NOT "Unskilled". They probably know how to throw a good punch and at least try to hold standing guard. You BETTER know how to fight via FREE SPARRING with CONTACT and GRAPPLING allowed.

[Effably]

A basic assumption to have is that anyone who chooses to fight you unprovoked thinks it will go well for them.

They might be wrong, but at least they think they're stronger.

Most meaningful self defense is aimed at a stronger attacker. Which is why half of them turn into nonsense. There is no one-size fits all solution to being at a disadvantage and kicking someone's groin, as common as that advice is, rarely works in real life.

Personally, yes I'm confident within reason. I've done various mma styles for about 20 years now. I'm at the rough physical prime of a man. Before reflexes drop but with enough time at the relative peak to build a stronger body. I won't be winning anything major inside an octagon but I'd be shocked if more than one in two hundred guys have an even chance against me.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

It's been a long time since I've been in a real fight, but seriously doubt more than 1 in one thousand men could beat me in a fight unless they clubbed me in the head with a stick from behind.

I used to beat my sensei's best students even in 1vs2 handicap matches full contact, and they in turn beat the transfer students who came in from other schools in the area, so that probably puts me in the 1-in-the entire Parish/County fighting level, with population assumed to be in excess of 100K per Parish.

Groin kicks can work, but you can't "rely on it" because the groin on most men is a relatively small target compared to the Solar Plexus, chin, temples/ear, or throat or liver even. It's worth trying a groin kick, but shouldn't hope that it ends the fight right away. At least you better have real skills beyond just that.

[Effably]

You, what? Your professional, dojo by the japanese terminology of it so karate or judo presumably, had 1 on 2 fights? In what unprofessional world is that a thing outside of mock exercises for real world situations? As ee both know a mock exercise is not a fight.

Mock exercises that, near always, are set up to the let the one person win.

You have to tell me more about this. Because not only is it unheard of, it is also pretty crazy for any professional fighter at any level to be able to handle any even semi-professional fighters if outnumbered. Please do share how and why this was arranged.

Groin kicks of course can work. But something that works one in ten times is not a get out of a bad situation trick.

Hitting someone's solar plexus is the advice a 14 year old who read a bit of a CQB manual would suggest. In reality this is stupidly unlikely and as much luck as skill. Don't get me wrong, you can punchg at the general area, maybe you get lucky, but it is basically luck. Easier to just strike a throat, better impact too. Not that you will land a throat strike on anyone who has fought a few times.

When you say ear I assume you mean a cupped ear slap? Sure. Again, basic CQB material. If not for the sensei mention I'd assume it was some military inspired practice you did. Krav Maga? But no one doing krav maga calls an instructor sensei.

But sure, the weird solar plexus, 1v2 comment and equating youe particular sport with everyone lr the peak of physical confrontation aside, I happily agree that you need a plan beyond do X and hope it works.

If we're teaching people, don some protective gear and set up a mock situation. Three tries to actually get out will teach more than weeks of online learning.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

If you want to know how this really happened, I can tell you. A real black belt test doesn't' last 30 minutes. It takes about 6 months to rigorously test for black belt in a real Okinawan karate school.

The two testing assistants were both Second Dan black belts, one was an Marine Corps veteran. They were instructed to attack me full power simultaneously and I was expected to defend myself, but likely lose the fight. In reality, what happened is I joint locked the smaller of the two attackers within about 2 seconds flat and I kept his body between myself and the heavyweight Marine Corps Veteran. I kicked the first attacker's abdomen over and over until he tapped out, and then I beat the Marine Corps veteran 1vs1.

I was also tested with one 2nd dan black belt at a time attacking me full power with an escrima stick, and I had no weapon, and I was expected to disarm them, which I did by the way. The difference between them and me is I was training 15 gym hours per week and 5 additional home hours per week, while they were both only attending class the minimum 2 or 3 hours per week. So I never "plateaued" in fighting ability, while people who don't train FULL TIME hit a plateau.

Sensei started drilling me this way againt lower ranked opponents at first, but by the time he was ready to test me for black belt, he had me fighting full-contact against multiple black belts simultaneously. The only contact rules in the black belt testing was literally no biting, no throat jab, and no eye gouge, which is actually much fewer rules than Unified World MMA bouts are done with.

[Effably]

Certainly more believable, although hard to believe still.

For the record this is not an accepted black belt test in Okinawan karate. Although individual schools may do as they please so it could happen. Okinawan karate has a stronger 1on1 focus than most and this format is basically unheard of as established or accepted method.

What you describe sounds like a typical Taekwondo test. Although they'd probably kick you out or restart it if this happened as you'd be considered cheating. Since it goes against the point of the test. So shouldn't be from that either.

There are of course a lot more rules than that. No ripping someone's balls off for example is a solid rule. I'd further warrant stomping on someone's spine would be a no-go. So on.

Lastly I do have to point out no instructor, sensei or serious mma practicioner in the world would have one person against multiple less skilled opponents. That is a recipe for injury. If your sensei truly wanted to do this he'd have started you against whoever the two best were. Not, the bottom of the barrel.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

When we hard sparred, it was within 2 belt ranks of one another. I've said that elsewhere on here before in the past. I hated sparring lower ranked opponents, because it was a complete waste of my time by the time i made brown belt through 1st kyu. The "fighting requirement" of the style for 1vs1 is a fuzzy topic to test, because fighting doesn't correlate 1 to 1 with kata mastery nor theory mastery. There is generally a +/- 2 belt fuzzy gap in reasoning of where a fighter should be compared to their kata, basics, and bunkai mastery. I was always "above the curve", so Sensei tested me hard to see what my real limits were.

Here's a pro fighter beating THREE amateurs by MMA rules, although I can't say that I believe they were black belts. They're a bit too clumsy and predictable to me.

https://youtu.be/3HziVRxWFIA?si=MuyEyutwM31fAKTT

[Effably]

The video shows the guy losing in two seconds. Then the ref going "No kicking! No kicking! Do not hit his back!" So he can survive. In no way, shape or form is this a realistic 1v3.

It is admittedly very difficult to believe you when your instructor's methodology is so unprofessional and sounds taken from a teen fanfiction not reality. Not to mention some other things. But always cool when unexpected masters of a craft lurk somewhere. You never know who can do what.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

By definition in the branch of the style I studied, you'pre supposed to be able to win a 1vs2 handicap against fighters 2 belt ranks below yourself. That was actually on the Syllabus and holds true through 5th Degree black belt. Ranks above 5th Degree are mostly ceremonial and about teaching rather than fighting.

[Anonymous]

Doesn't matter. If they're too big or too skilled i'll just run them down with my car. I don't fight fair.😆

[AI Opinion]

You’re absolutely right to question the “unskilled attacker” idea. In tennis and in fighting, your level only shows under pressure against real resistance. 🥊

If someone is bigger, trained, maybe on drugs, and gets the first shot, only alive training with contact, clinch, and grappling gives you usable reactions. Drills help, but free sparring, stress exposure, and conditioning are what keep you functional when it turns ugly.

[slatyb]

No, but I'm careful to stay out of violent places.

[SeekerOfTruth007]

My idiot relation by marriage broke into some dude's home a few years ago randomly and beat him up. He went to prison was supposed to be there for 8 years, but they let him out early.

Just a few weeks ago, he broke into a woman's home and beat her up, so now he's back in prison.

Violence will sometimes find you whether you look for it or not.

[slatyb]

That's true, but his sister married the guy, so I'm wondering what happened that made her think it was a good idea?