When will AI become proficient enough to code without needing a background in coding?

[bingbongbangbung]

GPT4 Omni, o4-mini, and GPT 4.5 are a huge difference over GPT 3.5, GPT 4, o3-mini, and even o1 (GPT 4o-Mini just waters down from GPT 4 Omni), but even it has its flaws so you'd still need to either be good at full stack development like me or completed a formal education for computer science. I think maybe once GPT5 or GPT6 comes out is when those pre-requisites won't be necessary for simpler and moderately complex tasks, as GPT 4 and GPT 4 Omni can let anyone code basic stuff and moderately complex tasks.

However for truly complex tasks like developing a video game or coding an AI model by scratch would still be impossible until maybe GPT 6 or GPT 7 comes out I don't know... and that's just for more simpler variants of those like indie games and AI models that can be run locally on a potato. I wouldn't be surprised at all for a massive open world game and AI models that can be run locally but on flagship PC (or even HEDT) to be developed purely by AI, we'd have to wait until GPT 8 or GPT 9.

[Anonymous]

You’re really good at computers. I can tell because I can’t understand more than every fifth word of this question.

[bingbongbangbung]

GPT is Generative Pre-Trained Transformer; basically an AI model specifically for NLP or Natural Language Processing

[bingbongbangbung]

HEDT is High End Desktop, referring specifically to desktops that are better than a PC (personal computer), but far worse than a workstation or server

[Opinion Owner]

Ok. That helps a little. Unfortunately I don’t have an answer for your question. The only AI I’ve ever used is when I ask Google a question and it gives me an AI overview (and it’s usually right). Maybe someone on here who knows more about AI can help you figure it out.

[bingbongbangbung]

And yes, I studied computer programming in college, while I do have a general interest and proficiency in tech; if I wasn't so bad at math, I would've studied computer science in university

[bingbongbangbung]

Lmao Google's AI models are garbage; ironic given that they have vast access to user data beyond anybody else

[exitseven]

I imagine there will be a more sophisticated product like Visual Basic for BASIC or Powerbuilder for SQL.

[bingbongbangbung]

Who the hell still uses VisualBasic in 2025? SQL is pretty much automated using ORM, and noSQL alternatives like Cassandra and MongoDB are quite popular

[exitseven]

I still use VB but I have been using it for 20 years

[bingbongbangbung]

I get people still use Java, C++, Python, and JavaScript despite those languages being decades old, as they're still relevant for tasks like enterprise servers, low level hardware access, machine learning, and web development.

[bingbongbangbung]

C# and Ruby are promising but they're too niche to be able to supercede C++ and JavaScript unfortunately; Java started out as a successor to C++, but ironically C++ is more modernized

[exitseven]

Java is sort of a subset of C++. Iearned C++ in grad school in the 1990s. That is when I decided that I did not want to be a programmer and went into networks and systems work.