Actually it's pretty simple: the US's political rivals/enemies don't do stuff like this when the US has strong leadership, and aside from Trump, the US has had consistently weak leadership since the Reagan era (though you could definitely argue for Bush Sr at least until the Gulf War ended). To be fair, the US isn't the only factor either, and western Europe/NATO has pretty pathetic leadership across the board right now too. You could chalk it up to unpredictability/craziness or whatever you want, but the fact is the US's enemies had to curl up in their corners when Trump was in charge.
Biden has never been anything resembling a strong leader, but he put it on full display with the botched Afghanistan withdrawal and insistence that it went smoothly, when everybody who doesn't live under a rock knew otherwise. Furthermore, his administration as well as Obama's (which are about 95% the same people just shuffled around) have now twice allowed Russia to invade Ukraine, carrying on a disturbing legacy of collaborating with and making concessions to Russia that the Democrats have been projecting onto their enemies for decades. It's also well known internationally that between his declining health and unpopularity, Biden's control in the government won't last long, the US is largely anti-any war right now, and for various reasons neither the military or industrial sector are anywhere close to optimal readiness, so in the eyes of actors like Russia and China, they'd have a hard time finding a better time for brash action. They also understand that because of what's happening in Ukraine, the NATO members are going to take their situation much more seriously than they have since the Cold War ended, and their window is already starting to shut.
So yes, as far as what is within the control and influence of the US and by extension NATO, this is pretty much entirely on the Biden administration; giving Joe credit for anything other than being a sock puppet for the people who are really making the decisions is a bit much though.
It's more complicated than that. Biden is following what Obama was trying to do on behalf of their corporate owners which is to replace Russia as major supplier of oil/gas into Europe and undermine the Russian economy and force the Russian government to allow us companies into Russia. Obama failed in Syria after Assad backed Russia over the US and refused to allow any US pipeline through Syria, the Russian checked the US government by sending Russian forces when the US tried to topple Assad. Similar thing in Afghanistan which would have given the US access to central asia which is rich in oil/gas but have to go through Russia to sell it because they are in a completely land locked region with Afghanistan to the south, China to the east, Iran to the west and Russia to the north, Russia having the only pipeline in the area linking central asia to Europe or anywhere else. With Biden losing Afghanistan to the taliban this is now off the table leaving only Ukraine as a viable intrest for the Biden regime.
The Biden regime like the Obama regime gambled that the Russians wouldn't take action, they were wrong and the Ukrainians paid the price.
I disagree - Russia's President does not make a decision in a vacuum. The US is the largest global economy, the largest military (both of which may change soon of course), and represent 1/5th of the world's economic production. Biden exhibits weakness; signaled US retrenchment by the botched humiliating withdrawal from Afghanistan; his generals are more interested in woke ideology than whether or not the soldier can kill the enemy; by stopping pumping US oil - which we were energy independent in the final days of the Trump Administration - he has made us dependent on foreign oil including Russian oil, and driven up the price of gas on Americans and endangered our supply if it was cut off; the increase in price has given Russia a fresh cash infusion into the treasury to fund these operations; I mean, the evidence is prima facie - Russia did not advance further into Ukraine under Trump - they launched this war when Biden was elected and have simply told us if you try to stop us we are coming after you. I've only covered the main points - by definition, Biden is solely responsible for this catastrophe and it endangers everyone.
Biden and Johnson are at fault for everything, they attack Russia all the time and don't mind their own business.
Both the US and UK need to be bombed to get a grip.
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I want you to picture this a fat Little Doe Boy had everything in the world handed to him more than once he has a bunch of thugs that walk around with him so when somebody says something to him he opens his big fat mouth and acts like a tough guy because he has thugs that will beat this guy up go seek that's what Trump is a big fat Doughboy who has thugs to walk around with him America to back his play that's bulshit his mind is not there because he uses it in the wrong manner it's all about himself and selfishness I do agree with you about Ukraine and Russia it's between them but you have to also understand is that America what's to put nuclear weapons on their border of Ukraine and Russia pointed to Russia okay that's one thing that's why we're involved we have our hand in the cookie jar but here's the thing that gets me Ukraine used to be a very evil country it did Evil things to their people and why America would be on the side of somebody like that I don't understand it's just because we get something out of the deal so what we're going through right now is all about throwing your people under the bus again so we can put nuclear weapons on Ukraine's land and what happens when we put these weapons there then we have the possibility Russia so now taking control to cyberspace of these weapons anyway I think there is a much bigger better way but old men are old men and they don't think new ways
... Are you really that naive, or have you just not thought this through?
Putin's making a move on Ukraine now because the evidence he's seen has shown him that no one will stop him. And a big part of that has been Biden's [adjective] policies. If you look at a geographical map of the region, you'll see that the distance between Warsaw and Saint Petersburg is basically just a flat plain- it's all but indefensible. The physical realities of the land have ALWAYS meant that Russian leadership needs to be more militaristic than that of other countries. Showing the sword isn't using the sword, but if you're seen as weak, you push others toward attacking you. Or, in Biden's case, toward ignoring you and letting you attack someone else. This is why Xi is using this distraction as an excuse to send planes into Taiwanese airspace.
Ultimately, yes, the decision is that of the Russian government, and they bear the blame. But if you get mugged because the beat cop wasn't at his post, is he not responsible (partly) for creating the circumstances that made the mugger think he could get away with it?
People aren't saying Biden is to blame - the US military has been around longer than he has.
It's more the fault of years of shitty American foreign policy, and their
corrupt military complex. The US has for years been filling the bases around Russia with troops and arming neighbouring countries. Trying that in Ukraine was just a step too far for Russia, is all.
It's like everyone in your neighbourhood getting a gun, but saying you can't get one.
This site has very much become a right wing echo chamber. Just watch, no matter what happens, Biden will be blamed. He doesn’t go in, he’s too soft. He does go in, he shouldn’t have involved America. Ever since Trump lost, the entire right wing platform is to trash Biden and stand in the way of any progress he tries to make. I’m not a Biden guy, or even a politics guy, I’m just impossibly annoyed by other people engaging in fuckery and having lame talking talking points in lame arguments that they’re just regurgitating from a politician or a media talking head, it’s not even like it’s original thought. I wish everyone would just shut the fuck up, you’re all disturbing my hedonistic existence, lmao.
I have to agree with you about the ultimate decision was just talking and not trying to be arguing about the way to the side of one or the other. I am going to be asking if you realize how much we are the ones that shut down our oil production and natural gas pipeline for USA and the other ones have been been buying $700 million dollars per day and still wonder if it was the way to plan something? I will be happy to see what happens next since the nordstrem pipe line went bankrupt as of today. I am not going to be able to say anything about the way the sotu to get to hear Biden and he might accept that he made a bad decision or he may blame it on somebody else like he has been won’t our president to do a good job for the United States it seems like everything he’s done is done everything else for foreign policy and not us so that’s the only thing I can say for effect as of right now with the information I gave you
You really can't blame Biden or Trump for it. Because the American public really has a huge lack of intelligence, evidence and Russia didn't plan this publicly. Also as good as we think our intelligent agencies are they are not 100% perfect. So there is a chance that our government didn't know it was going to happen tell it started. People really need to put their politics beside and look at this entire mess logically and realistically. Instead of grasping at straws. The back and froth arguments are nothing but that. People grasping at straws and people falling into the illogical mess that is politics.
Because Putin is a Master strategist with 56 years in KGB. He is of the Soviet Union. You obviously know no history or civics or you wouldn’t ask the question.
1. Master strategies with a Stalin/Brezhnev attitude
2. He thought Trump loved the people and country enough to not lay down and take his 💩…Trump is “crazy” narcissist out of the 3 stooges (USA, China, Russia). Trump knew what he was doing.
3. Putin knew that Biden would wreck our economy with the electric everything 💩 and close the drilling wells/no oil.
4. HYPERINFLATION by Biden.
5. END GAME is USD and Biden is help making it happen with hyperinflation and USD with no value.
PUTIN KNOWS A WEAK LINK WHEN HE SEES IT. BIDEN IS WEAK AND A LEFTIST FRIEND.
Because republicans have no merits of their own to campaign on. So, their media networks have absolutely nothing else to do but figure out how to trick people into thinking everything every single Democrat does is somehow responsible for every single problem in the world. Of course they wouldn't point out what Trump has to do with it, because that would defeat their purpose. Putin, either, as the right is aligned with Putin's governing philosophies. Sad that people fall for it so eagerly, but what can ya do...
Originally I was pinning most of this on Biden and Congress as a whole. I figured after Afghanistan, Military contractor lobbyists would do what they could to get us into a new war to keep the money flowing. I wouldn't put it past them in the slightest.
But the aggression was clearly on the part of Putin and specifically against Ukraine. Like maybe he was being tactical here, but Putin's speech didn't mention much about NATO encroachment and emphasized the idea that Ukraine is not independent. I didn't watch the whole thing though.
And originally I figured Trump's schmoozing of dictators ultimately helped us avoid war or at least delayed it, but this conflict predates his election as far as I'm aware, and he was especially drone happy despite his anti-war claims.
So I don't I can pin much on Biden or the democratic party specifically. I think any blame associated with this would be dispersed amongst Congress as a whole.
i blame biden for the framing. when USA invades a country, the western propaganda calls it "liberation". when Russia does the exact same thing, they call it a crime against humanity.
both the US and Russia have nothing in mind but power politics. it has nothing to do with helping anyone in ukraine. that's just the propaganda they create to generate legitimation for their actions.
Because Trump had good relations with Russia, didn't challenge Putin and literally said we should work together. And we had peace with Russia.
Biden as a Candidate challenged Putin. As President labeled him an adversary. Then on Twitter challenged him about invasion... Putin invaded in that window of time.
Yes, If Trump were President this wouldn't have happened. There's a strong case to be made that the establishment just wants war with Russia which is why Biden is doing all this
Only the same people who blame Biden for literally *everything*.
Trump is the one who wanted to stop funding NATO, and to end US military intervention abroad (he's the one who surrendered Afghanistan to the Taliban with the Doha agreement). You're dreaming if you think he would have lifted a finger to help Ukraine.
He's also the one who's caused such internal division and chaos within the US, that it looks to the outside world like a weak, disorganized rabble, barely even able to defend its own democracy, let alone another country's (which of course is why Putin liked him). Brexit most likely had a similar effect in terms of making the EU look disunited and chaotic.
Biden pushed Kiev to double down on shelling Donetsk, AFTER Putin declared that if they would stop, there'd be no war! So Biden is very much at fault. He wants the war. To protect his party's image. Because the DNC economy post November 2020 insurrection has been abysmal. They want that Bush-era war hype, to distract us from the fact that they're turning us into Venezuela!
I agree with you, but Trump was a master of propaganda so he would make a big show about being tough, then appease Putin ego on the side and people who like Trump would fall for it all the same.
Like when Trump surrendered Syria to the Russians... it was an appeasement. Days later Russia and Turkey announced a new pipeline to be built from Syria to through Turkey... basically allowing Russia to by pass NATO/US sanctions on oil.
But Biden and Dems didn't say work or make any argument against it... so Biden and his sanction talks it empty to me.
Because trump turds are trying to make their boy who sucked off putin on the world stage, look good.
. Their reasoning is that trump would have sucked off putin so good, putin would have just stayed in Russia.
The only ones believing that this wouldn't have happened if Trump was in charge, is the brainwashed Trump supporters! The stupid inbreed even saluted Putin for his one sided aggression, and for breaking international laws, and invading an independent neighbouring country! He is a fucking fanboy in love with any dictator in the world that just takes what he wants! It's his "grab'em by the pussy" mentality all over again! 👎
Trump would be dealing from a position of strength. The US would be the world's top energy producer and would be able to supply allies with plenty of oil and natural gas. Putin would not get rich selling oil to Germany and other European nations. He would have had sanctions in place weeks ago and he was considered a wild card by most foreign leaders and was not liked by most of them because of his America First policies.
It's it a funny coinkydink how whenever this limpdick was the VP or POTUS, Russia started advancing on Ukraine, yet when this >certain< person was president, shockingly, Putin was standing by? It's almost like different presidents are more likely to defend or allies than others.
Don't forget: AFTER he lost election, Trump unilaterally withdrew from the Open Skies Treaty, giving Putin cover to withdraw too. Ukraine begged us not to, because it would rob the west of the best surveillance should Putin invade. Now we dont have it. Another gift from Trump.
I don’t know. People have their opinions I guess. They blamed Trump for things out of his control too, so it’s only normal that people blame Biden for this.
Politics and the blame game lol.
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