Happy 4th July or Happy Treason day?

[Littlejugs99]

Happy 4th OF July

Happy Treason Day

[WhiteSteve]

Lmao. Makes me think of the hippie teacher from Dazed & Confused…

https://www.youtube.com/embed/8lMOL7GaPWI

I’d probably take a little more issue with the American colonists’ treatment of native people, but you can definitely make the argument that people willingly migrated to a known colony of an imperial superpower (the positive attitude towards imperialism itself was really the greater issue, though), and then acted all indignant when they were treated as the colonial subjects they should have known they were signing up to be, or at least what their parents had birthed them into. I understand the desire to feel represented and have some measure of self-governance, but that’s just not what colonies are, whether that’s good, bad, or ugly. Always two sides to every story, for sure, but in the US, we only get taught from the perspective of OUR side. I always wonder if and how it’s taught in UK schools, haha.

[Littlejugs99]

Well if you think about it only one thing separates Geberal George Washington from General Lee

[FunkyMonkee]

The letter b?

[loveslongnails]

Which statement would that be? They were both assholes.

[BCRanger10]

I'll just repost a question someone asked a couple of years ago and answer it again accordingly...

Yes! July 4th FOREVER!!!

[RingOfFire]

I think the most beautiful document in the history of mankind summed it up pretty well...

"When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the Powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation."

GOD BLESS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

The strongest, most powerful, freest, most prosperous, most opportunity providing, most innovative, most technologically advanced, most prized by immigrants, most copied, most charitable, most compassionate, most tolerant, inclusive and ethnically, religiously and racially diverse nation in the history of the human race.

[Littlejugs99]

... excepts for the African slaves, native Americans, Jews, Catholic Italians, Irish Catholics, Polish Catholics

[RingOfFire]

You think America's history is bad? Try learning the history of the other countries of the world.

America is where slavery and bigotry came TO DIE.

Slavery was practiced all over the world in those days. Blacks in Africa invented slavery. They were at constant war with each others tribes and they captured and enslaved other blacks when they defeated them. They TAUGHT white people how to engage in slave trade and sold their fellow black Africans to America and a whole lot of other countries around the world.

In fact, there is more slavery in Africa today (blacks enslaving other blacks) than anywhere else in the world. It is one of the few places where mass slavery still exists.

LEARN YOUR HISTORY before playing the brainwashed automaton.

America is where slavery came TO DIE.

[RingOfFire]

@littlejugs99

I apologize because I didn't notice your age. I don't mean to be so critical because it really isn't your fault. You are a victim of a fake education that didn't teach you anything about the real history of America or the world. If you open your mind and study some of the other facts about America's past you will learn the truth about what an amazing, beautiful one of a kind nation America is. You have to get past the anti-American propaganda to see the truth.

There is a famous saying about how to tell whether a country is good or bad. It says that all you have to look at is whether people are trying to get in or trying to get out of it. And there is no country on earth that more people are desperate to get into, including people of every race and religion, than the United States of America, the place where more than 600 thousand people (more than in any other American war) lost their lives in a battle to end slavery in the Civil War and the place freedom was born.

[Pudsmucker]

It is great day a day of Independence from tyranny, being able to worship our God, state what we want about our government without repercussions.

[strateguy632]

exactly, someone needs to remind people of all that.

[Pudsmucker]

@strateguy632 my contacting our senators and representatives.

[Littlejugs99]

Only if you are a white Anglo saxons protestant male.

[Lliam]

I'm celebrating not being ruled by foppish royals and aristocrats. I like being a sovereign citizen instead of a "loyal subject". I celebrate being endowed by the Creator with self-evident, unalienable rights.
I'm glad that England is now America's bitch.

[strateguy632]

i asked 3 brits , separately about that in college, in the 90's they all said the same thing "we have been great friends for over a hundred years" true and demonstrated the world changed. the past is too remote for grudges. past grudges should not even serve any agenda

[Anonymous]

I think sometimes we should have stayed part of the British Empire, we probably would have been a much more respectable, better type nation like Canada, Australia or New Zealand. Instead we have become a cut throat, out of control capitalism, exploit every thing, use it, drain it, fuck it, then sell it to the highest bidder. No universal health care, where 5% of the population controls/ owns 90% of the wealth, Corporations and the super rich don't pay their fair share of taxes, any thing for the profit and the almighty dollar even if it takes destroying our environment and creating monsters like China and AI that might kill the creater one day. Where motherfuckers like Trump and Biden can get elected. Happy July 4th.

[strateguy632]

yeh just skip medicaid and medicare that existed EVEN before obama care. but you believe whatever you WANT.

[NamerOfStars]

Gosh, it's almost as though people WANT representative government. Having a say in what happens to you- what a crazy idea!

[gorydetails]

https://www.youtube.com/embed/b8zO_DV09QE

‘Merica

[GoodGuyBreakingBad]

Happy 4Th of July Have a Wonderful Day

[goaded]

Enjoy independence day, Filipinos!

[strateguy632]

as if america battled them... we fought the Spanish not the Philippines.

[Anonymous]

Let us celebrate the day our slave masters didn't want to pay their taxes. Also let's celebrate George Washington who did exactly what General Lee did

[exitseven]

Taxation without representation is tyranny.

[shades777]

its happy firework day and family food day now, nobody actually cares about what the 4th actually means its just a means of being off work to screw around

[strateguy632]

i guess "nobody in your family" but conservatives make a fuss... from what i saw in gag, dnc suppoerters consistently ashamed and can't celebrate the good parts.

[Anonymous]

Sounds like some limey is just pissed that they gotta work today while the rest of us are are barbecuing and enjoying this beautiful sunny 4th of July day. 🤣

[LiamJHayden]

If George III had followed in the footsteps of William and Mary instead of those of James II we would not be having this discussion.

[LiamJHayden]

I mean in denying the rights of the subjects. George was not "overthrown" except in the colonies.

[Rangers]

Nothing, there's no such thing as a happy day for me

[strateguy632]

sorry you feel like that. there is so much good to find And focus and lean on.

[najekim]

Happy 4th! Did you remember to get your 5th on the 3rd? ;)

[Andres77]

Thanks for the smile.

[Anonymous]

Is it really treason if my people were subjecated by the English?

[strateguy632]

from king point of view yes. no excuse. but the treason was needed against the evil empire. if i were wilson and fdr i would not help empire britin nor soviets. only target the enemy. no helping empires etc.

[Opinion Owner]

We had our own kings we didn't need the English one. And the English like to romantize our most prominent king.

[GreatBigCircles]

It's only treason if you lose.

[Dargil]

Happy Independence day

[Sparkie460]

We celebrate 4th of July

[mommymommymommy]

Independence Day. Thank god

[QuietRunner]

I can see both points of view

[strateguy632]

i think south park had an episode of brits trying to reclaim the "colony" shallow as usual but funnny too.