





Where are all these guys saying they feel intimidated?
This is like that BS term "fear of commitment," it isn't a fear, they just don't want to commit... end of story... period.
If she is independent great... if she is going to say people are intimidated as well as say "fear of commitment" to explain things in opposition to reality... then I know I'm dealing with a person that is socially manipulative... CYA.
You question is what advice would you give to a girl looking for a partner... simple... do everything everyone else does.
by the way... In todays climate... I think a man is a fool to marry a girl who makes less than him. Any guy who marries a girl who makes more money #winning (ZERO intimidation).
I'm not looking to marry so doesn't matter to me how "independent" she is. Great... she can buy me dinner now.
My advice to them is stop acting so arrogant and narcisstic. Plenty of other people also are self sufficient and independent and they have no problem getting dates. I notice this issue only with a very specific independent kind of woman and it's usually they rub their "success" in peoples face. Even a CEO millionaire will find her repugnant.
It’s not that the man feels intimidated but it’s more like “oh she doesn’t need me for anything”. Men generally want to be needed.
Lmao " she works hard for the money, so you better treat her right " Song by Donna Summer
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No, for me it makes her more attractive.
No. You should be self sufficient as an adult anyway.
Nothing a woman does intimidates a man besides lawyering up and filing for divorce or filing false rape or DV charges.
Anyway, I digress from my point. I often find these questions occur when a girl is having difficulty finding a man to date. You must remember, you’re only as good to a man as you are useful to him. Men want frequent sex... for life. That doesn’t stop at marriage. Men want to be fed. Men want domestic chores done. Some men want children, and companionship
Often women think because their self sufficient... that means they don’t have to do some or all of that. Then it must be understood you have little to no use to a man. We’re not impressed at all by your self sufficiency. We’re impressed by your submission on a continual basis and you doing things for us that make life more comfortable.
Also, I say “we” as many men feel that way, but as men become increasingly feminized some don’t seem to care about being taken care of in a traditional way. In any case your only as useful to a particular man as you meet the needs he wants met and once you no longer do you’re not viewed as an asset, but a liability.
No. They just don't have anything to offer a relationship.
Top things I look for:
Sweet personality
young enough to have kids on very open time frame
no ho past
Note, career and independence is not on there. In fact, its actually a bad thing. Being in a long term relationship or having a family REQUIRES dependence on the family unit. So someone who is comfortable doing themselves is not really the right person to make a family with.
By the time you get a good career 99% you are too old where I will count it against you in dating you. Like 26 or so you better be ready to drop everything and start poppin kids. So if you older than that im super hesitant to even give you a shot.
Not always but often enough to mention, career women and older women typically have a ho past. If you had like one or two boyfriends and thats your history. No issue. Cool. I am glad you had a serious long term relationship and I am impressed. If you hooked up or had 20 boyfriends, eh no thanks.
Also typically with career success comes being aggressive and you lose that sweet personality. Its very hard to be leading people at work and being a firm negotiator without bringing those skills home and I would never want a woman to act aggressive or try to negotiate me like im in a business meeting in my own damn house. hell no.
So intimidated? No. I just don't see any value in women like this.
Now the men who do see value in this are typically low earning men, and submissive men, and younger men who don't know what they want. Go find a boy toy, they will be all about it. Some guy who is still in college or a high school drop out bimbo. You will have money to take him out and on vacations and such and he will submit to your leadership in the relationship.
Intimidate? No. I think it's a trait that should be admired, but not used as a measuring stick.
The realm this can get into being an issue is if she winds up passing judgement too quickly as she carries a degree of resentment or scorn for anyone that hasn't placed as much importance or emphasis on self reliance as her... Either that or she might consider herself somehow above people that don't accomplish this or that as quickly or as well as she has.
Pride of autonomy is good. Judging others, not so much.
Not intimidating, but why would I be with someone who doesn't need me? I don't enjoy it, because I can't give anything, and she doesn't enjoy it, because she can't get anything from me.
Then again, i think you are vastly overestimating your own capabilities.
So true
Yup!
I’d also say, she’ll likely not give anything to you either. Why should she? She’s self sufficient and independent in her mind.
What’s that? Make your dinner? You have 2 hands, make it yourself. I’m self sufficient, you be too. That’s the attitude I tend to see coming from gals like that.
Well, what use are they then? They don’t need us, and tend not to want to do for us either, so they’re useless as I see it.
Dinner isn't the only reason a boyfriend
No, that's pretty normal for a woman in today's society.
Women are no longer dependant on men for everything.
Infact if she has her life so well together like that it's a big positive.
Advice:
1) understand what type of guy attracts you, nerdy? sporty? etc
2) look for that type of guy. Don't sit around waiting for him to come to you.
You wouldn't sit at a restaurant and wait for dishes to come to you would you? Go order what you want!
3) don't be afraid to date outside of the norm.
Sure women around you may all want 6ft tall rich sports men but if you're attracted to a short nerdy garbage disposal man then go for it.
Maybe... Under the assumption that the veiwer can even understand the concept behind any of those things then it's possible. Not everyone cares though, so to them it's no different than something not existing, like those ideas never came to mind so they never look for it. Its like air, only scientists look at air as a molecule (airs a molecule right? lol)
everyone else doesn't even know its there.
First off always know your value ( it seems like you already do) and never settle for anything less than that! The only thing that concerns me is your "independence" Some women just mean they're self sufficient for others that's code for "i want a relationship only when it's convenient for me". Relationships are give and take.
No, men are not intimidated or a least I never met one who was. Woman are bombarded with this tripe in popular culture and some choose to believe it in order to elevate their self esteem. Men run from women like that.
She worked so hard to prove she doesn't need a man, why pursue a man at this point.
She can get herself half a dozen cats, bottles of wine each night, and masturbate to romance novels.
Childless, past their their prime, and bitter is where these women end up. By that point, no man wants her. She sealed her fate, but made her feminist point.
Self-sufficiency isn't intimidation. Being a BITCH about it is annoying. Okay, so you pay your own bills, SO BIG FUCKING WHAT, BITCH? We all pay our own bills, or at least on my playing field we do. What's the FUCKING BIG DEAL to keep bringing it up? When she acts like that, I no time for the childish little thing.
I dont see how that would be intimidating. If anything it takes some of the stress off dating because she will probably be more invested in the planning process, and doesn't need to constantly rely on me for everything, i guess.
What you just described is nothing more than a grown up adult. The only thing that matters is whether you know how to treat a guy right, which has nothing to do with being a grown up.
When "independent" women have problems with men it's because of personality or attitude problems, not because they are grown ups.
This problem is a woman problem, not a man problem.
You morons claim that you are our equal and then make posts like these. That just goes to show that you are very insecure tbh. Ever seen a man posting shit like "Does a self sufficient man intimidate a woman"? The answer is No. And yeah only beta bitches get intimidated by a self sufficient woman and all that nonsense. And what's with all those pictures jeeeez, calm the f down.
I wouldn't say that's enough to be intimidating, but I get turned off by women who are so self sufficient that I feel like she doesn't need me for anything.
What would be intimidating about that? I don't get it. She's not gonna beat me up is she? I don't know where women get this idea that if they can do stuff most of us men can do that we're gonna find it intimidating.
Not at all.
However, a woman who goes around *proclaiming* she's a strong, independent woman is rather like the guys who go around proclaiming they're nice and not like the others.
I find it both intimidating and attractive at the same time. However she has to be feminine in a relationship. Outside of that I don't care
I find not men but women also and I am attracted to women. But that’s because “ I don’t fit in dress code of a lesbian” whatever that means.
Sounds like the perfect girl, where do I get her number?
Oh yeah for advice I'd say, approach the guy u want cause u got everything else
I am a self sufficient woman and I sure hope no guy is intimidated by that because that would be dissapointing
She can build you up.
She's an asset to you.
She can show you up.
She's a liability for you.
She can screw you up.
It all depends on you as a guy----and the nature/dynamic of the relationship between the two of you.
Distinguish boys from men and maybe you'll find out. But prior to that decide girl from women and you'll know how men see it
Oh wooooow, a woman can pay her own bills? So scary! I
Only the gold digging ones annoying me really badly. If I can pay my own bills, don't ask what how much I make.
Rather her to be that way then dependent on someone.
a lot of people are but i personally find find it beautiful
It depends. Acting like you don't need a man is off putting but being independent isn't. Imagine looking a man to rule the world with verses bow to your queen.
Of course it’s intimidating to worthless guys who know they won’t be able to control/keep her with certain tactics.
You show pictures of black women. Most Black woman are not independent and self sufficient. a black woman like that is rare
Question. How many black women do you actually know? I can name more independent black women than white women. Not saying that white women aren't independent, but I know black than white women who are independent.
If they think they are self sufficient then why do they need a man? Maybe they aren't self sufficient as they think lol
Maybe out of my league. But I would still be in awe and try to get to know her.
thats one of my favorite lies.
Men are not intimidated, we just couldnt care less.
I never meet self sufficient woman or man. We all need someone <3
NO , I think it is great for them to be in that position ….
No. But they have an annoying attitude. They *think* that they intimidate people, they think far too much of themselves and that is a turnoff.
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No but you have to be on your game they don't take shit.
Not to me. I'd prefer the woman being the bread winner.
Yes. They're usually bitches. And whores for the most part.
No those type of "women" are called bitches which most guys tend to avoid
only the weak narcissistic type of men
That woman in the middle is so cute.
:D
Sure, such women can be intimidating.
It wouldn't intimidate the good ones I think.
No it's a little more attractive.
Not intimidating at all. More like attractive.
It sounds like real and very strong turn-on for me
That kind of woman is attractive to me
yes-but the kind you don't want, anyway.
no, enough with this feminist bullshit
Some men it does.
Not at all.
Sign me up.
Nope
No not at all
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