I've been watching MGTOW and Red Pill videos for a while on you tube and have "interacted" with some of the men in the comment sections. Some men are very hard core. Some of the more extreme stuff is women are money sucking whores and the feminist movement has ruined us. Some of the men in this group have completely stopped having interactions with women. A few seem full of rage.
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The second group seem more to be the men who still want interactions with women but on a very superficial level or in non committed relationship. They aren't going to have long term relationship and tend to be more into casual sex. Some promote the dating of women in their 20s because they don't have the baggage of older women and they are more pliable emotionally. Many of these men have gone through really bad divorces where their wives took the money and the kids so they feel pretty much cleaned out. The extreme men in this grouping believe in the pump and dump.
The last group are the men who just seem a bit lost. They skirt on the outside of this group. Listen to some of the ideas but not fully immersed. Either they are going to become full fledged MGTOW or Red Pill men or they will leave.
The MGTOW is men going their own way where as Red Pill men still will be with women. I think I might have mixed them together a bit. Red Pill men tend to be anti feminist, pro dating younger, some say don't marry until you are at least 40 and marry younger, money and power is considered the only things that women naturally find attractive in a man and alpha males are better than being a beta male. Any type of sensitivity shown by a man then he's considered a beta male so he's considered weaker. Oh and a lot don't want kids. Again I might have overlapped Red Pill men with MGTOW men.
I'd definitely ask his views about male female relationship or something of that nature to see how Red Pill he is. Some of these guys aren't bad just trying to figure what they are supposed to be doing as a man. Maybe some lack of mentoring from older men.
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Yes. If you want to get married one day, say by by to him. The tyoe of red pill guys can differ from person to person. The mtgtow movement men are the same way. a lot just view that the system screws men over, so they have no problem being in a relationship. But they aren't having kids or getting married anytime soon. On the other hand, you have the men that are in short term, grade a, assholes. But I highly recommend staying away from men like that.
As a MGTOW monk, I find it extremely amusing how so many geniuses give their gospel fake answers for MGTOW. First of all MGTOW is not a movement, it is a philosophy. And it being a philosophy is exactly why MGTOW can't ever be controlled or shut down.
MGTOW men know the game is rigged against men and boys know it, too. Hint's why TGTOW exist. There are even pre teens joining the philosophy.
MGTOW is for the protection of men and MGTOW as it stands is already in the many millions as well as world wide. I was MGTOW monk long before I ever heard of the acronym MGTOW, 1986 was the year I went my own way. And no despite some of the genius answers you've been getting, not all MGTOW men hate women and not all MGTOW men are against having children. I don't hate women, I just don't want anything more to do with them in this dangerous society that exist for men. Men that are foolish enough to still date are literally playing Russian Roulette. I just like probably 99% of MGTOW men, also love children, having children was always my dream, only all that's left of it now is only the fantasy remains it's not even possible. Millions of MGTOW men have lost their children in family courts that extorts them with the use of their own children only then to have their children turned against them on top of that by the women that hold a gun to their head constantly. And when the courts says those men haven't made enough to pay for their children, such as they've changed jobs can't meet the same pay, those men are sent to prison and labeled deadbeat dads.
Then you have the media and the system constantly demonizing and vilifying men along with the feminist that have implemented such a system.
To sum it up, MGTOW is about protecting men, and the red pill is the reason men need to be protected.
They're not quite the same thing.
Red pill (I can't stand their use of that term from The Matrix, a film I love) online communuties promote the idea that women want to be or should be treated as inferior, and that this is how relationships should work.
'Men Going Their Own Way' is similarly anti-feminist but based on what I have gathered, it instead proposes that men should avoid relationships and friendship with women, based on a belief that relationships and society are biased against men. So the same beliefs as red pill dating, but a different conclusion.
They both have something in common: these online communities isolate men from society. Instead of learning to interact and empathise with women, they get encouraged and rewarded for posting misogynist thoughts.
The sad thing is that they can attract otherwise decent people. Often, someone only needs to be mildly fed up of not having a girlfriend and wanting some alternative dating advice... that's how they got drawn in.
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MGTOW doesn't see women as lesser beings, but tries to tell "Men Go Their Own Way". The idea is that men following MGTOW do not want to deal with the stereotypical bad sides of a relationship. For instance in MGTOW, men will require girls to buy their own things, rather than guys buying them things.
I don't think MGTOW has bad intentions in mind, and if you enjoy being with the person I'd say just keep on going. But from my experience a large majority of the people following the MGTOW movement tend to be anti-women, or they believe in extreme ideologies. And even if they don't, they tend to take the MGTOW way too seriously, and treat relationships as if there are two individuals rather than one couple.
I don't want to give MGTOW shit, but it tends to attract the bad kind of people.Yeah generally those guys tend to be keyboard, edge-lord type dickheads. They're contrarian for the sake of the argument. Generally not the type of people you want to engage with.
I think red pill and mgtow are two different things and mgtow is a no go zone for me. Or at least if i was a girl
Yes you should stay away... the whole concept is retarded
I think the movement is like any other movement in that it eventually gets taken over, at least vocally, by the extremes.
He only asked if you knew what it was.. also red pill and mgtow are similar but not the same
MGTOW stands for Men Going Their Own Way. It would be contradictory for a man to date a woman if he was "going his own way". You don't have to avoid men like that because they are avoiding you.
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