Do you hate guys that consider themselves as part of the Red Pill Movement?

[HawkPerception]

Yes

No

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The "red pill" movement, a term originating from the film The Matrix, is a metaphor used within the manosphere and anti-feminist communities to describe the supposed awakening to a reality where society is allegedly dominated by feminism and biased against men, requiring men to fight for their own protection.

[TheRealPepperPotts]

I don't hate them. I see them as yet another extreme and polarization. I'm hopeful that eventually we will run out of ideas on how to divide yet more groups of people. The division and hate is what concerns me. For all our technological advancements and scientific feats, I fear that in many ways, we are no better than Nazis during WWII or the Hutu in Rwanda. Give us the right demographic to hate, and we will become monsters.

If only we could have compassionate conversations with those we disagree with. If only each one of us could look within ourselves with humility and thoughtful self-examination. If only we could consider our opinions as tools to make us better, and not weapons to make ourselves feel safe.

I think many of the extreme views on both sides can be traced to a lack of community and identity, causing many people, especially young people, to rally around the first clan that welcomes them with open arms. When we have no identity or community, we are ripe for collection by organizations and ideologies that are untested and unchecked. Young men are particularly prone to frustration in the absence of strong community, which is why gangs are filled with young, unconnected men. Healthy communities are made up of all kinds of people, women, men, old, young, able, disabled, etc. Each element in the community teaches us something important about life.

However, "communities" today are not designed that way. They are cults of mutual agreement and unquestioning loyalties, not groups of people who love one another and support one another, even when it's rough. When these cults develop, they naturally exclude, rather than include. Challenge is dealt with strictly and harshly, an "us against them" mentality is cultivated, thought-terminating cliches are introduced and repeated, and the connections within the cult are strengthened through rituals.

The Red Pill young men make my heart ache. They need more than just other frustrated, angry young men in their lives. They need mothers and fathers, grandparents, sisters, aunts, teachers, coaches, etc. As much as we love to fantasize about rugged individualism, we need one another to thrive.

[FreyaRed]

I don't hate anyone because I don't have much emotions. I find those guys reactionary and a little bit limited when they take it very seriously. Some red pills can be considered as options or as partial options but there is a lot of manipulation potential in red pill movement and few statements with common sense don't make someone who ruminates those "red pills" automatically to plebeian tribune or to edgy mofo.
Media and internet is an ideological battlefield with many fronts and psychological operations. So called "red pills" are just one of many weapons in this conflict and lot of them are duds. I don't think a person who build up completely their world view on hand of red pills limits themselves end exposes to be exploited by others who control the narrative.

[Shiprex]

No I don't hate them. I can genuinely empathise with them and judging by the comments below their points are being brought out.

These a men who are seeing those around them being given hand ups from society that they're not entitled to. That they're education has been poorer (it's THEIR fault apparently that they aren't getting the grades in the female dominated space of schools and criticism of THAT is shouted down by liberal talking head who have jumped on the men are bad, predators, beasts, worse than wild animals, have to work on themselves, misogynists, etc., that's constantly fired at them

An interesting video called RED PILL was made by a feminist and is on Youtube who set out to discover how these men's rights groups function and it's NOT about hating women for not dating them THAT'S the feminist and media spin on them that's being broadcast. Fortunately the alternative media is available for those who bother to look.

There is also the work done by the author Nora Vincent who went undercover as a man (a lesbian feminist activist) for a year and wrote a book called Self Made Man:One woman's year disguised as a man to discover how men have it in life and you can guess he findings weren't positive about men's issues especially around how women would treat them.

[Oncewildtwiceburned]

It’s not a movement they’ve probably seen their uncle brother or their own father screwed over and Family Court and divorce court, or went through it themselves.

The dating stores are funny. I have a few myself. And I’ve heard a lot of guys losing their businesses or a lot of money for a great deal of time. I’ve also heard of guys paying child support for kids that aren’t biologically theirs.

But completely losing still living children while they’re still young, is a type of grieving that can never be concluded.

After going to war at 18 for Rich old fat psychopathic men from legacy families that I’ll never meet, and promptly losing my kids shortly thereafter I’ll be the first to tell you that it’s not a movement.

It’s just an acknowledgment of how fucked all government systems are and a basic guideline of typical human behavior.

[MzAsh]

Don’t hate them, but don’t like or respect them.

[CalmUntilAbused]

Why would I? I am basically one of them myself. I mean... I've never been particular about movements, but I understand and support the Red Pill goal - making male-female relationships great again. I myself want to find a wife for myself at some point, and some Red Pill data and guidance is critically important in order for me not to get my life ruined by a toxic woman in the process - why would I ever hate such an excellent movement?

Now... To be honest, there is not a single MRA-related group I can bring myself to hate. Definitely not the noble MGTOW, sacrificing their lives to get rid of the mistreatment of men. Not even the violent subdivision of incels. I mean, I might condemn the latter's actions, but it is not that I do not understand their motives. Anyone mistreated for long enough would snap. I don't even think they can be successfully tried, since I believe any man tormented by the women in his life for long enough cannot be considered sane in the court of law.

[ProbablyClueless]

I don't hate them, most of them are very normal, very likable dudes. 95% of that community is your buddy Frank from the marketing department. Especially the early red-pillers. Most of them are just normal dudes who have recognized that the story they're being told doesn't line up with their lived experiences.

It's tough to hate someone just because they're sick of being on the receiving end of society's bullshit.

The other 5% are the miserable, cantankerous assholes. Funnily enough, not even Andrew Tate considers himself red pill.

[PBandJ_Nerd]

If they have signs of misogyny in their community, then yes. If your struggle finding a partner goes so far/deep for you to hate, harm, etc. the opposite sex then there's a huge problem right there. The fact that they're all incels might make it even worse or more worrisome.

[HawkPerception]

To label a whole community of people as incels... don't you think that might be a little wrong?

[PBandJ_Nerd]

When I searched "red pill movement" that's what I got.

[Snakeyes7]

I kind of put those guys in the same camp as those who call themselves "intellectuals." It seems to be something that is much more positive for someone else to call you rather than you calling yourself that because you come off as a pretentious narcissist.

[IslaTheWitch]

I would rather choose the common sense than any pill... I also don't like extremes...

I don't hate people...

[Gwendoline]

No. I know a few of these guys. They appear to mostly be the sons of single mothers who they witness do their father dirty.

[Apple1996]

No hate but I think they are lost souls who need help. If you've watched adolescence on netflix then you'll see the harm in what that red pill nonsense does to young boys/men

[Lliam]

Hate is a strong word. I just think they are damaged. They only harm themselves.
I pity them.
They are the male version of bitter, resentful, radical feminists.

[lightbulb27]

no, I'd say, get a life and pull your head out of the sand.

[WindAtMyBack]

Nope. In real life I don't think I've ever heard anyone mention that red pill or blue pill nonsense. I only see that shit online.

[SmokinAces2000]

I don’t hate them but I do think that they are basement dwellers that can’t get pussy so to cope they say women are evil and they are oppressed because girls don’t like them.

[HawkPerception]

Sounds like hate to me with all those insults 😂

[SmokinAces2000]

I simply described them the best way I could. I don’t have the time or energy to hate people

[fish5505_87]

Hate is a strong word! How about disagree. I just researched what this was. The fact that they grabbed the name from the Matrix is amusing. We all love to hate each other! Sad!

[thegreenyogi]

No I don't hate them at all.

[Dongie]

No, I've not encountered any.

[NicholasRedone]

I find them annoying lol 😆

[Dargil]

No Rib Eye Steak for me.

[noohair]

I don't hate, I pity the fool.

[blackeagle007]

What is that?