so I have been having this debate with a lot of men and they all seem to think that it’s okay for them to sleep with someone as young as 18 .
Is it just me or is this wrong , it makes me feel abit sick , they are old enough to be their dad.
I have slept with women who were 18 when I was over 40. My current primary girlfriend is almost 23 and we have been together since shortly after she turned 20. Her dad is a little older than I am, but I am older than her mom.
The average age on first instance of women I have slept with is 23 and that hasn't changed since I was 25. (It takes quite a few 18 and 19 year olds to make up for one 32 year old).
It isn't anyone's business whom one chooses to have sex with as long as they are both (or all) at least 18.
If you don't like older men now, fine. That is your preference and I respect that as much as I have my own preference.
The young women I date tend to have a few things in common. They have all been more mature for their age and felt they are more comfortable with older people than people their own age. They appreciate the experience and benefits of being with older men (including in bed). They think boys their age are immature and are turned off by them. If these characteristics do not sound like you, then fine. Just don't look down on other people for having other preferences. Some people like broccoli, some don't.
You are a predator. " They have all been more mature for their age and felt they are more comfortable with older people than people their own age. They appreciate the experience and benefits of being with older men (including in bed). They think boys their age are immature and are turned off by them."
That is language used by men who go after vulnerable young woman.
Girls, stay away from this guy!
It's not right. She's too young, they know nothing at that age, they aren't old enough or experienced in life to know what they are doing. They (both) may think it's right.
It may be the girl though wants that... it's a fast path... maybe.
e. g. hugh hefner and his young "girlfriends" as example.
But... it is "legal". Imagine having an 18yr old daughter and her 49 year old boyfriend shows up... ugh.. that be tough on parent.
I am older than my gf's mother, and just short of her father. I've met them. They are nice people. I treat their daughter extremely well and she is happy.
@WalterRadio I'm glad to hear that. in some ways, I'd accept that more, depends on the people. The issue I'd have with my own imaginary daughter, is someone using her rather than having her best intentions in mind. in some ways, older guys are more mature.
in this case, he dated mom... that seems messed up. if some dude dated my mom, and then dated my sister, it give me the willies:)
" someone using her rather than having her best intentions in mind"
That will be a lot bigger problem with her dating boys her age. The whole hookup culture, fboys, and drunken parties are based on using women, then going on to the next one.
@WalterRadio Red Flags!! Parents must be in a toxic relationship for this girl to fall for this guy.
It's wrong, very wrong. Especially for the younger person (guy or girl) but a lot of these people have either been taken advantage of themselves by someone older when they were in their teens or they are incredibly entitled & have some kind of mental problem/issue (legitimately) & actually *can't* understand that there's anything wrong with this. Just that they want it, therefore, they should have it. It doesn't matter if the 18 year is still basically a child & incapable of understand an adult relationship yet or that it could really mess them up, it's basically physical greed. They could go without but want to put themselves first, sleep with the teen then leave her to with the fall out a year or two later if they even last that long.
If an 18 year old is "basically a child" then we sure as hell shouldn't allow them to vote, join the military, get married, or sign a contract.
@WalterRadio one or two discussions on one website on the internet isn't going to stop what's been happening to these people from happening, almost all of the stories like these are 18 y. o.'s STILL IN HIGH SCHOOL being groomed by 30y. o.+ people moved into their apartments then kicked out a year or two later. This site is full of stories like that. It's not because they cared about each other or 'fell in love' or just wanted to date, these are basically, children, not old enough to see what's happening being solicited by adults for sex. That, is the issue. But then, as a grown, capable guy, I'm sure you clearly see the problem with dating a high schooler & those who choose to do it.
They are either adults or they are not.
If they are adults, they get to decide how to live their lives, for better or for worse.
If they are not adults and are incapable of making their own decisions, then they sure shouldn't be voting , etc.
The alternative is to do a system where each person has to pass some kind of aptitude and psychological test to exercise the rights of an adult. Such a test would solve a lot of our political problems, since a good fraction of the population would never pass regardless of age. But there is no practical way to do that.
No, I do not see a problem with an 18 year old doing anything he or she likes with regards to personal relationships with other adults.
Thanks for the MHO @Asker
It's according to who the forty and 18 year old are. Do they have anything in common, or is this just a sex or money thing? I suppose the teen could be wowed by the man of the world status and money of the 40 year old and the teen is smokin' hot so he likes that. But does it go beyond that? If it's just superficial stuff, it'll fizzle, most likely. If there's a deeper connection, that's a better scenario. It's a big age gap. But a few people do it.
I think it's ok to sleep with guy that age but I wouldn't date one
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I suppose it's not wrong if the younger one is withing the age of consent, but it somehow feels wrong to me also. My first ex got engaged to a guy 13 years older than her this year and I felt disqusted. Often I also see about young men dating grannies (for money obv) because they love them, and it feels disquating also. Dunno what to say.
"I felt disqusted [sic]"
Sounds more like that is the result of your own perceived inadequacies?
It's legal, so it's ok by the law. Whether or not it is OK by your own standards of decency and appropriate behaviour is subjective, there will be no particular consensus and so there is little point in the debate. It's like asking if it's ok to smoke.
It’s also legal to sleep with a 16 year old. That doesn’t make it okay
It makes it OK by the law. Whether or not it is OK by you is up to you to decide, as you have. Your opinion will be merely that, your opinion. I would question what such age differences would have in common, sure, but the law is what it is.
"That doesn’t make it okay "
It isn't up to you to decide what other people do.
When i was age 35 , i dated a girl who was age 18
and wish we would of done things different such
as concentrating on expressing more love to one
another and engage in less foreplay ( sex stuff)
i would of liked to cuddle, kiss , hugs more and
at one time i truly did love her.
No. Even at age 18, people do not have the emotional maturity to handle such a relationship. That's why you begin slow- with people close to your own age. You learn at your own pace. A 40 year old already has "bad habits" when it comes to relationships. If he is still single and trying to date girls this age (yes, I said girls- not women) then he has a big problem on his end. RED FLAGS !!
Think about it. It would be like dating your own daughter.
Would you have a problem having a daughter that age do the same? You probably would because you know what thoughts/intentions men have at that age.
These men are predators. They seek these girls because they know they are young enough to manipulate.
Stop being "idealistic" about relationships like this.
They are 90% or more to fail and that same girl will end up with a younger and better looking guy at the end.
These relationships not only make me laugh; but also cringe.
They are both adults and can make their own life decisions. While a lot of young women are just too anoying to want to deal with, I don’t agree with your analysis. A lot of guys get married around 30, so maybe 50 is more in line with being her father’s age for a first child and maybe 60 for last child.
Personally, I think It's a bit... wrong. But it's all about perspectives. What would you say if it were a 40 year old woman (Caroline Flack) and an 18 year old boy (Harry Styles), does that make you feel as sick? It doesn't seem as bad for me when I think of it like that, which means we are 'biased' in our thinking. But biased or not - I still agree with you and think it's a bit wrong!
It is okay if they are with her for a relationship and actually share similar morals, life goals, and some interests (not just sex), and if they don't have kids around her age. They also need to be in good health/exercise so they can still do things together in the future. If they have kids around her age or are just after sex then it isn't okay.
What is the difference between a 40 year old and 18 year old whose relationship revolves around sex and two 18 year olds whose relationship revolves around sex?
I think that they are simply a nonce, my son is 19, im 44, i would feel so wrong, how could you even relate? I do go for younger women myself but never that young, its just wrong!
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Old enough to be her dad? While physiologically true, a 56 year old man with a 40 year old woman is also technically old enough to be her dad and yet no one would bat an eye-lash.
because she's already 40, not 18 u stupid ass
Yes, sure. My friend (F) slept with a 61-year-old when she was 21. As long as it's consensual, how is it any of your business? Would you be pissing and moaning if they slept with someone of a different race?
So long as everyone involved is happy and consenting, then yeah, there's no problem
It's legal, so in that sense, yes, but obviously not if he is her teacher or boss.
I tried dating a woman who was 42 when I was 22. The sex was amazing but I couldnt get over the feeling I got being in public with her. It felt so weird. So I guess if it is only sex then yes but to date then no.
It's a little seedy, but they are both consenting adults, it's not wrong
Since the age of consent is 16 in most states if is okay for a middle age man to fuck a 16 year old girl. It is their decision; not yours.
These laws were created by men who wanted or were in relationships like this. it was made to protect/cover their poor behaviors.
@dontcrackmeup The age of consent keeps increasing. Now it is too high. Prior to the 1900, the age of consent was 10 in most states. discover-the-truth.com/.../
You women have always chosen to marry men with the most resources; typically older men. Since it their choice, it is reasonable and proper.
Only if they're DTF. Some girls just want to get laid. Mind your own fukkin business.
here you go...
Just because it's not something I would do, doesn't mean it's ok for me to be a judgmental prick for those that do.
Nothing wrong here, as soon as she turns 18 even riding 90 year old dick perfectly fine
So the question here really is:
Can an 18 year old decide for themselves who they have sex with?
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