Do you think most incels are stuck like that because they're not trying hard enough?

[Anonymous]

Do you guys think incels aren't trying hard enough to get sex and/or not paying for it?

Do you think only being handicapped disabled and/or missing/mutilated genitals makes you a true involuntary celibate
I meam it's totally understandable if a guy with autism or Asperger's complains about never getting a date because his brains doesn't process social skills and communication skills and we should pity him and feel sorry for him

But when an average neurotypical dude has high standards and wants to date a supermodel tier looking girl then that's stupid he should lower his standards and start looking for girls his league. Same goes for ethnic men. If you can't get a white woman then simply travel back to your home country

[Curmudgeon]

Like MGTOW, I think these people just need to focus upon self improvement and less upon wallowing. I get that many of them are angry when they realize that all of the femi (commu) nist Left dogma which with they were indoctrinated in their formative years was a pack of lies.

Still others are more often than not sad young men who were just never taught how the real world works. Often they grew up fatherless. And I get why they feel that way--year after of year of formative years peer abuse and parent neglect can take its toll. But the journey of a thousand miles begins with the first steps and all that.

I actually try to give these people constructive advice online, because I felt just like them at that age. Sometimes I am mocked as a "normie" by those who just want to wallow, but other times I sense I make some positive impact.

As for "just buying a prostitute", you see, to them that isn't "real". Men who frequent prostitutes in their world are STILL InCels because it isn't a real relationship.

In THAT sense, I have to give them a wee bit of credit, even if they are all too often stuck in self-pity wallowing.

And as for "just lowering their standards" is that feminism fucked that up. It convinced a generation of young women that their appearance didn't matter, and so you have a lot of women these days on the lower end of the attractiveness spectrum who are a) massively overweight, b) heavily tattooed, c) don't know how to dress properly.

Not to mention the ones who are too old to have kids or the single mothers. (The idea of starting their own family among InCels is actually a big romantic point in their favor, if unrealistic perhaps).

Plus, the "Womyn's" personalities are often horrible. Every bit as bitter and entitled as any InCel.

[PrudentGuy]

Apart from being a "self pity" as brought up by other Opinions, I also noticed two more attributes:

1) keep "dating" the "same person". Ya, not literally, but lerson of the same character and perhaps body type and personality, who would likely reject his type of character.

2) remains the "same person" despite much failures.

And without "upgrade" since his last rejection, new girls he met will also reject him. Hence he remains an INCEL.

Conclusion: INCELism is a viscious cycle. It leads to more sexual rejections. (Hence they may try hard enough, but not smart nor wise enough.)

[Anonymous]

I think they victimise and pity themselves too much when they don’t get what they want, then take that frustration out on other people, usually women.

[Yads_Is_Back]

I think they’re stuck because they have a negative attitude and all they do is complain

[Asker]

Yeah right. I told a guy on an Incel forum that if you really gave up on women and are that blackpilled then stop visiting those forums and he banned me right after

[Yads_Is_Back]

Exactly 😂

[BeenThereLovedIt]

Anyone who truly understands aspergers and autism would know that they are quite incapable of being incels. It's not impossible, but extremely improbable, and it's very offensive when people who just lack social and other skills try to blame it on these afflictions. It's like someone pretending to be handicapped to get a cool parking spot and sympathy because they are too lazy to get with the program.

Yes, most of them aren't trying hard enough, or smart enough and think they should be cherished because they are 'nice'. Everyone is nice.. you gotta have more than that to offer if you want to attract another person.

[RolandCuthbert]

It is not about trying harder. It is about confidence and self-esteem. They keep talking about the way the world is. They don't want to change the way they look at the world. They tell themselves the same fantasies over and over again. There is more to the story than them being rejected. And they can turn this around if they commit to doing that.

[hellacray]

I think incels just have low self esteem in general. And for some of them it's more like a phase. You know like how teens go through a phase in high school.

I watched a couple random incel videos on YouTube and one of them this guy was browsing through the forum. And there was a thread dedicated to guys leaving inceldom. It's almost like a diploma like you're finally no longer an incel.

So... No I don't think incels are stuck. However if you start having suicidal thoughts or considering going on a killing spree definitely seek help.

[Liam_Hayden]

I think most guys who are called InCels are not really so. The ones I've met are just unrealistic. If she's a famous InstaTHOT, she's probably not going to notice the guy working at Del Taco, for example. Meanwhile the Del Taco dude is ignoring the somewhat attractive girl working at the cash register who might actually date him.

[Torari]

I think intel try too hard on the wrong things, ie. Acting nice and trying to not be "like the other guys". When they should be focusing on bettering themselves and learning to just not compare themselves to the other guys.

If you have an interesting life that is going somewhere, and you talk to women regularly without covert ulterior motives, women come naturally.

[On_the_other_hand]

I think people downplay how much looks affect someone's chances with people, girls included.

How is it that good looking guys on average have more confidence? Because people give them confidence.

[Anonymous]

i don't know dating is tough these days , especially with covid , social options are so limited its hard to meet anyone here. i'm not sure how you could go about dating rate now , other than online and that isn't always that easy either

[nousername26]

*shrugs* i'd rather just stick to acceptance and masturbation/porn.

And life's peachy :)

Sex and women are not everything in life, once one accepts their lot in life. Good food. Good income. And hobbies.

[Thatsamazing]

No, mostly it's an issue of their standards maybe being a bit too high, and females only finding about 20% of males attractive.

[In_Trance]

yeah