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Why do people tell incels to go for single mothers, short women, poor women, or women over 30 if even those people wouldn't go for those kinds of women? Why do they want to force incels to accept the lowest quality women just because people tell them to?
Man. I wish we could talk. There is a lot to say about this. I’ve studied the incel community a little for work and learned some things.
First, there are few true incels. There are just dudes with:
A.) Extraordinarily unrealistic standards about women and female sexuality.
B.) So ‘low grade’ themselves that they aren’t even trying at a basic level. We’re talking basic hygiene, people skills, and self-improvement.
C.) They live too much in the cyber world and not the real world, pipelining incel propaganda into their minds. Legit, being radicalized by angry dudes who are already categories A & B above.
D.) They have a twisted and false perspective & perception of women since their data points are collected from a skewed demographic be it the angry men mentioned already, or immature women on social media.
E.) All of them seem to have a social awkwardness that just slays their prospects of meeting a decent woman and yet shift the blame to women as it’s far easier than admitting their own need to improve.
Elliot Rogers wrote a lengthy and rambling manifesto and gives a clear story of this decline into madness but there are plenty out there who can shed light on this world.
Thank you Lliam.
Women are absolutely fascinating and as complex as they are they are shockingly simple too. It’s a paradox but, safe to say, they want as good a man as they can get - the same way men want as good a woman as they can get.
@Flatmanlewis. True. What some guys don't realize, too, is that women are way smarter and more observant than they give them credit for.
Women are usually far more intuitive than men. It’s practically a survival instinct - the prettier the girl the more so.
You did not study incels correctly, I know more about incels than you, incels do not blame women, but biology, since incels are a black pill, that is, incels will not do anything to change their condition since they know it's useless, that philosophy is contrary to the red pill of pickup artists.
I think of incels as prepubescent boys that plateaued and just don’t know how to adapt to manhood. Maybe they don’t have any positive male role models, maybe they are sucked into the BS of the internet, and maybe (like a lot of people) they funnel their frustration and pain into anger. Either way, it’s almost a choice at some point. You cannot equally want women and hate women. The pieces don’t fit.
Also, the “it’s a black pill” (or red, or blue, or any of the other ramblings) IS the textbook definition of the problem. Incels are complainers and quitters. “It’s not my fault. It’s useless to try.” Heck, what woman is attracted to that? I know dudes who are goofy as heck, short, even work with a dude who’s a ‘gamer’ (yes. We tease him) who are all with very attractive women. Why? Personality matters. A cry baby, defeatist personality is a massive turn off.
people all the time go for poor, short, single mom, and women over 30... and you thinking they are lowest quality is exaggerated to the average person. lower quality would be obese, ugly, handicaped, severely mentally ill or old (the wall biologically is early 40s not 30 by the way). you sound autistic ngl
its fine to have high standards anyways but only if you can somewhat easily get people who fit them. incels usually can't obv. most incels are more or less this: a usually unattractive or average looking at best dirty unemployed poor recluse chronically online guy with a terrible personality, no empathy, and mental problems. doesn't sound appealing does it? your female looksmatch and equal would be an unattractive or plain jane poor recluse with a bad personality and mental problems. not a rich pretty stacy with a life, good mental health, good personality, etc. your are low quality so you deserve low quality. high quality only goes with high quality. so obv if you just want to get stacy and becky isn't even good enough for you, when you deserve gertrude people will think its crazy and your pathetic. only chad can get stacy. if you dont like that fact, looksmaxx or just take a shower if your average looking and not overweight stop hating women, get a job, a life, go see a therapist, get friends that aren't delusional and toxic and that you know irl, and go touch some grass. then you can get for sure at least becky and maybe stacy-lite
No thanks, women over 30 are low quality.
I think you may live in a very shallow demographic area. Most of the hottest women I know are all north of 30. (There is legit a term for them - MILF.) Plus, most women over 30, have their finances squared away, a career established, have their own place (not living with Mom & Dad), dress better, and more sexually comfortable. I think you just haven’t met the right 30+ women
Hahahaha, women 30 years old or older are not attractive, if you find those women attractive, it is because you are a beta man, I am a medical student and I only have girlfriends who also study medicine like me, therefore the money It doesn't matter because we will be rich anyway.
Why do they want to force 👉incels 👈 to accept the lowest quality women just because people tell them to?
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INCEL by its definition, is an unattractive, unappealing, unappetizing male.
Therefore, the INCEL is in the same class, as the “lowest quality women”.
While the lowest quality women will be single-moms, used, and high body count. The INCEL, is a porn addicted male. This makes him just as degenerate as the Promiscuous women.
This is why the INCEL, should go with those at his level. Porn Consumer Degenerate, deserves a low quality milf, single mom, promiscuous, cheater. DEGENERATE , should go with DEGENERATE.
Low quality, goes with Low quality.
And have you seen the type of content in porn? StepDad? SchoolGirl? Borderline Pedo Content? Yes, so therefore, the incel should only go with the lowest quality women. Because that’s what he deserves.
You don’t want to be an INCEL? That’s on you. Nobody told you to chug Cheetos, and Cake… Nobody told to play videogames past 18yo….. Nobody told you to sit on your ass and do nothing. If you don’t go with the milf, your reality will be that of a sexless miserable, simp. Porn-Addict simp. Either stop complaining that you don’t get action, or go with the low quality females. Or become a Chad. Put in the work. 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
No thanks, I have more important things to do than waste my money on women.
OK THEN DIE VIRGIN AT OLD AGE. 🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️
NOBODY TOLD YOU TO MAKE THIS POST COMPLAINING ABOUT BEING AN INCEL?
🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️🤷🏻♀️ DID I TELL YOU TO POST THIS? NO RIGHT?
Either, shut your mouth, and stay a virgin, quietly. Or do something to change your reality.
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No thanks, I have more important things than wasting my money on women.
WHY DID YOU POST THIS IF YOU
REALLY DON’T CARE? 🤡🤡🤡🤡
No thanks, I'm not interested in wasting my money and time on women.
No thanks, I'm not interested in wasting my money and time on women, I have more important things to do.
Because it is their fault. Pure and simple. Its not even about having a low or high standard, even the lowliest incel can score a better woman than they "deserve" if they just put in some effort. I mean, it would help if they worked on themselves a bit too such as having good personal hygiene, dressing well, taking care of their appearance, getting a good job or whatever, but its not required.
All that is truly required to get whatever woman you want is to get out there and try and try again. You might not get anyone specific, but if you ask out like 100 women one after another you will eventually find someone that accepts. All that being less popular means is that you have to ask out more, not that you have to settle for less. Of course, you can settle for less if you want since it would speed things up but again, not required.
That is my 2nd problem with incels, that they dont lift a finger to help their own situation. My first problem with them is that they are insincere in their beliefs by the way.
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Because it is. My first relationship was with a woman who was beneath me because I didn't know how to respect myself or my own value. Incels are accurately gauging themselves as unappealing to most women, then inaccurately pushing the number of unappealing men to mid women and thinking it should even out.
After I got divorced (at like 19) and had few standards, I slayed. When I got myself on track with exercise and my job and got standards, I got less women, but felt better about my life.
That's how standards work. When you raise the bar you get less but feel better about it. If you can't do one chin up and make your goal ten, you're a fool. If you can do 20 and make it 21, you're a champ.
u If other guys don't want to have sex, it doesn't matter to me.
You're an old man, you won't be alive long anyway.
Your attitude is showing!
Lowest quality women? I can safely assume you're an incel, because only they demonstrate such a complete and comprehensive CLUELESSNESS when it comes to women. I can also safely assume that you think of yourself as being "high quality". Well no, you're not, and people like you are the ones that every woman should avoid, and the fact that they generally do avoid creeps like you bothers people like you (incels) a lot. So, to answer your question, YES, it IS your fault! Stop being such obnoxious assholes, and then maybe a woman will one day give you the time of day.
Women over 30 are low quality, it's biology.
It's not belief, it's facts.
Nobody's trying to force incels to do anything. Nobody gives a shit.
The problem is, when incels belly ache and whine about not getting what they want, people give them advice. Naturally, incels never listen because they don't think they have a problem. They want to blame women or feminism or anything but their own ineptitude and unrealistic world view.
Incels are low quality yet they think they deserve high quality women. And what's funny is, they wouldn't recognize high quality if it smacked them in the face. They also wouldn't know what to do with a quality woman.
So people often rate others on a 1 to 10 scale. It's not a fair, kind way of dealing with people, but it exists. Following the mathematical logic on this, 10% of all people are 10s, 90%of us aren't. So your average incel has decided he won't accept less than what, 8 or 9. This from a person that has a 80 to 90% chance of not meeting his own standard. If incel boy was a 9 or 10, chances are he wouldn't be an incel. Add to this the whiny, pissy attitude "woe is me, hot girls won't fuck me" is not endearing.
So what do you want to do, complain that Scarlett Johansson is not knocking down your door, or go ask out one of your fellow 4s? I by the way am a 5'6" solid 4 (at best) married for 35 years and not a virgin. You want my life or you want to insist you "have a right" to a 10?
Do you think Scarlett Johansson is a beautiful woman? Hahahaha she is ugly and old, do you think we are in the 2010s?
Scarlett Johansson beautiful? HAHAHhH
When your full of hate and bitterness is it a surprise women avoid you?
It's like hearing an unemployed guy with zero experience or qualifications being too stuck up to flip burgers and cry he's always been turned down for executive jobs.
Hahaha, the low quality women I mentioned don't reject incels, but incels don't want those types of women, no one wants promiscuous or ugly old women.
@purplepoppy Accurate! 🤣
If you want something in life you have to put it out there as much as you want to receive it. You want a kind, attractive, fit, mature, stable woman? Guess what kind of guy you need to be…go ahead. I’ll wait.
Because society has a really hard time dealing with men's emotions in general. Also at this particular moment in history, society just doesn't have the maturity to acknowledge that there are times when women aren't 100% totally justified in everything that they do, and sometimes their behavior hurts a lot of innocent people. Sometimes women really drop the ball for the men in their lives, and that can have extremely serious harmful effects.
The reality is that Incels become Incels because many (in most cases, ALL) of the most important feminine relationships in their lives have become horribly abusive.
For the same reason that guys tell women on this site, "instead of chasing after men who just want to f*** you and kick you to the curb, why don't you give guys that want to date you a chance".😆
These women would say NO WAY! If the roles were reversed. The heart wants what the heart wants. Even if the heart is stupid as 💩 and delusional as hell. It still wants what it wants.
Now if you excuse me I have another letter to write Scarlett Johansson... I think I'm wearing her down.😆
I think anyone male or female who sets their standards too high is going to remain single or be celibate for a longer than time than someone who doesn't. I don't feel like lowering my standards to just any guy so I've accepted I'll be single more often than not. I want to be treated with respect. If all I cared about was having a guy or getting laid I'm sure I could find some random guy out there, so being single and celibate for me is a choice.
You're not doing anything wrong unless you think you should be dating a top girl when you don't try to improve yourself. We as a society tell women all the time not to settle, but that's exactly what society wants men to do, to accept an unattractive (unattractive by men's standards such as fat or ugly or worse a slut that's been with other guys) then they shame men as "insecure" or "incel" when really what most men want is a normal average girl that's only sexual with him alone. We live in the age of leftist toxic feminism and hookup culture, so that's why. Women already have such an easy time finding a companion or sex partner if that's what she wants, but women fail to comprehend just how difficult it is for a lot of men. Don't listen to others telling you to accept a slut in her 30s because "it's normal". No it's not. 40 years ago, a man could marry a girl in her early 20s who was a virgin, nowadays... Good luck 😔
I don't think it's necessarily what we're told, but rather, how often we're teased and frustrated by women in general. The only real remedy for being involuntarily celibate is to receive enough prick teasing to compel us to go out and get laid.
Because standards work both ways. Incels need to understand that their shitty attitude towards women predominantly is what makes them undesirable.
This is the attitude of most incels by the way. They only want women who are 10s. So they aren't even incels lol. They are actually voluntarily celibate. They choose to be alone.
Because they are looking for 10s when they themselves are 1s 😆
No man, 1 or 10, wants ugly women or women with children.
They are sought after as the disposable objects that they are. Women with children, like you, are worthless, disposable products.
women with children are worthless, disposable beings.
Women are only good for having children, after they have children, they should be scorned since they have no other value.
Women who have already had their first child are disposable and disgusting beings without any attractiveness or value.
A woman with six children is trash with no attractiveness or value.
Because those men are beta men, mothers are disposable products, you have no value.
Incels are usually unattractive and feel entitled to gorgeous women, but wouldn't give a less attractive girl a chance. Ugly people date other ugly people. They do indeed need to lower their standards.
Nobody wants to date ugly women.
And beautiful women don't want to date ugly men.
Because they refuse to look at themselves and instead blame others. Hatred for the others and being bitter. Flatmanlewis hit the nail on the head.
LOL, what's wrong with women over 30, short women, or poor women? They can be good girlfriends.
Now the single moms should be avoided.
Women over 30 are low quality, it's biology.
Because you are a beta elder.
I am young, you are old.
I'm not interested in reaching your age, people your age disgust me.
Hahahaha, the world doesn't miss you and you haven't even left yet, old man.
Hahaha, it could be, but I'm young, and you're old.
Only people who live most of their lives on the internet would believe that.
Expectations for others to do things is a prevalent error.
Begging is more dignified.
Who's choice is the standard that you have for women?
If you're unappealing (in your opinion) to women, it's your fault if you don't change.
Because Incels are the lowest standard of men.
How many times a day are u gonna post this shit? Quit trauma dumping. Get therapy tf
This!!
They ended up with a low quality girl themselves, so they want the same for others to feel better about themselves.
I never heard a guy complain about short woman lmao
I...
Well I guess you're the only one.
Dude. A 5’2” woman over 30 is like the foundation of a perfect woman to me! I also think you’d complain about a woman being “too tall, too immature, dresses too slutty, dresses too boring, too quiet, talks too much, seeking male attention by going to the gym, isn’t fit and should go to the gym, blah, blah, blah.” I think you’re just stuck in a rut or perpetual unhappiness. You need Jesus in your life man. Seek help. Get therapy. Go outside and get off the internet.
@Flatmanlewis yeah when I hear guys say "all women..."
I immediately think he has zero experience with women.
I don't like women who are less than 161 centimeters, only beta men like such women.
That's great but the majority of guys like short women.
Hahaha no, only beta men.
Then why do 6ft-6'4ft guys like me? 😂😂
It depends on how tall you are.
I'm 5'1 and 6ft-6'4ft guys like me 😊
You're a dwarf, it's because those men are beta men.
Tall men aren't beta
Thanks, but I don't like dwarf women, it doesn't matter if you flatter us.
You have, my good man, been radicalized. You are living in an internet fueled echo chamber. There are - without any exaggeration - countless absolutely gorgeous women who soundly land in the “petite” category. Starting with my own petite woman crush list: Salma Hayek, Shakira, Christina Aguilara, Jennifer Love Hewitt, Gillian Anderson, Dita Von Teese, and Jennifer Walcott. Heck, Vanessa Serros is a fitness model and at 5’0” strikes me as absolutely gorgeous.
You need to shut the door on this incel idiocy and join us back in the real world. The only common thread I’ve identified in incels so far is an equal measure of quitter with self-pity and nobody likes that. Attitude is far more telling of a beta man than looks.
Maybe you like long legs because subconsciously you are gay and don't want to come out of the closet. Guys have long legs because they're tall 6'4-7'0 etc
Beggars can’t be choosers.
Yeah but they never do that. They say they “give up” but spend all day online complaining about feminism.
i understand hating feminism since i also hate it to my core but i don't waste time and energy on complaining it, you either get something and do thingsnecessary to obtain it or gave up on it nothing is important enough to dwell on it and make life more misearable than it already is.
A single mother is worse than a poor woman
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