Why do people place all the blame on incels?

[Anonymous]

You can say it's their personality, they hate women, etc, until you're blue in the face. But that never stopped really good looking guys or women from getting laid. Also let's be honest, you'd be super frustrated and it'd effect your mental health too if you weren't getting sex and kept getting rejected. It just seems fucked up to bully and push these people. Many end up shooting up schools or committing suicide. But it's somehow justified to attack them and have them end themselves because they're frustrated that they can't get laid?

[skytatoe]

If society is rejecting you, maybe you're doing something wrong.
I'm not a fan of bullying, I think only a lowly piece of shit gangs up to prey on weaker or more vulnerable people. But if it does happen, it's also an opportunity for self reflection.

'Why me?' yeah, actually. Why you? That's the perfect time to do some self reflection and accouting on yourself. What are you doing wrong? What image are you projecting? How are you coming across? etc... It's an opportunity for tremendous growth if you make it into that, or for a pure mental breakdown if you don't have the strength.

Bullying is tough. Usually what happens when you're mistreated by everyone around you, when all that you experience from the world is aggression, viciousness, pain (physical and/or emotional), rejection, humiliation, manipulation and betrayal, over time, that will shift your world view. Over time, that will become the norm. That's how human interactions are to you. People aren't nice to each other, or if they are it's fake. People aren't kind, they're selfish out to get what they want and need. People prey on the weak. Etc... Once that becomes 'normal' to you, you're fucked. You don't live in the same world as normal people, because all you experience is that unrelenting negativity, and after a while you will become exactly like the people who dish out the bullying. But worse because you don't anything to balance out the negativity. You'll be aggressive, vicious, callous, uncaring, selfish, unempathetic, manipulative etc... you name it.
It takes a lot of strength and a lot of willpower to get past something like that, to rewire your world view, to work on yourself instead of getting caught in spite or tit for tat hate. It's not easy. So, if you add to that mental health issues, which makes it basically impossible for them to recover, and easy access to guns and you have a perfect recipe for a school shooting. Also worth noting, is usually these are committed by teenagers, whose brains are still in development. Depending on their mental development that capacity for self reflection might even be quite limited.

These aren't just basic 'piece of shit' human beings. They're crazy. Their world view has been so distorted that to them killing random people is the best course of action (can you imagine how warped your logic has to be to get to that?). And their excuses seem reasonable to them. Of course any sane person would disagree, but at this point they're no longer sane (if they ever were to begin with).

If anything, I think that just points to severe mental health care crisis that is just being ignored in america at the cost of many innocent lives.

[Anonymous]

Because they are whiners and we need to go back to teaching males to take it like a man and stop complaining. Men will always be creepy no matter they do, wanting sex, not having sex, having a toy vagina, it's all looked down upon. After all this time you think we'd be numb to it and accept being the expendable gender

We need to allow prostitution in more countries to shut them up. If incels and feminists still complain after that then ignore them and let them die out with natural selection. It's not our fault being born made us strong and good looking. What am I going to do, not try to bang every available young hot chick? Yea, not gonna happen especially when college is the one chance you are surrounded by them

[Anonymous]

To make fun of and bully someone is of course not ok, however that’s exactly what so many incels do. It’s like they dedicate their whole existens towards spreading hate against women calling them all sorts of derogatory things and making fun of them. That behavior is not ok just because it comes from an incel. They do this and then cry and play victim if someone mocks them back? Like no you’re not getting away with that. They’re acting extremely immature and pathetic, it’s not about them not getting laid it’s about how they handle it. The way they handle it and their mindset shows exactly way they’re not getting laid in the first place. And yeah, as you say some of these incels go out and murder innocent people, and for what? Some sort of revenge over women he finds attractive not allowing him to put his dick inside them because he wants to? If you don’t understand how messed up and insanely sick that is then you are part of the problem. These are mentally unstable murderers and no, they deserve no pity. ”Stacy didn’t let me fuck her so now I’m going to go out and shoot them all” buhu cry me a river. These people belong in an asylum. They need serious professional help and are a danger to others as well as themselves. And no, being upset or frustrated that you aren’t having sex is absolutely zero excuse at all and it’s also not normal to let it get to you that way, and that’s because these people aren’t normal to begin with because they have mental issues already not at all related to the sex thing (and by the way no, I would not be at all frustrated without sex. I’ve not had sex in years and I don’t even think about it) and that’s why they don’t belong out on the streets. They’re ticking time bombs, who knows when they’ll explode and decide to murder people for some sort of pathetic perceived injustice. You have no right to sex and nobody owes you shit. Try harder (a lot of these incels don’t even try to approach women) and be better or be without. Simple.

[Asker]

Again, they don't start out that way. They become that way. You people just refuse to listen. Fine, don't listen to them, they'll keep shooting up schools and it'll be your fault

[Hedera]

And why would it be her fault if they shoot up schools? Because she didn't give them sex?

[Asker]

Nobody is saying too. Least you can do is not push them and empathize. Why would you push someone that feels like they're backed against a wall? You see what people do in those instances

[Hedera]

Explaining to them that women don't owe them sex isn't pushing them when they are against a wall, it teaching them common decency.

[Asker]

Did I say it was? This whole thread all any of you have done is place the blame solely on them and justify how they're treated by society

[Hedera]

And what exactly do you expect us to do? Because with these kinds of guys, anything short of sleeping with them isn't good enough for them.

[Asker]

Gee I don't know, how about stop acting like they're sub human scum that should kill themselves for starters

[Hedera]

I never said incels should kill themselves? I said they should work on themselves. Definitely get therapy if they are suicide. NOT blame women for not being sexually active.

[Asker]

Some here have said they should. Many have but still have no luck. I think they resent women because they have to try super hard and still not get results, while other guys can be as shtty as possible and basically just ask for sex. Tinder experiments prove this

[Hedera]

No easy way to say this but if it's tinder than yeah, appearance plays a part as most people are only on there to hook up. It's they same for chicks as well tho, if they aren't conventionally attractive than most dudes aren't going to look at them twice. And the kinds of people who use Tinder for hook-ups are the kinds who value appearance more than personality.

[Asker]

It's irl too, and even ugly girls get play.

[Hedera]

Are you an ugly girl, sir? Do you have first-hand experience? And what do the guys these 'ugly' girls get with look like?

[Asker]

Dont need to be, there's such an imbalance and women demand so much in dating that ugly girls are able to have sex with top tier guys. Guys way out of their league have to compete for them. But they think they deserve only the best. These top tier guys have sex with them and average girls but never commit. There's been studies and experiments done on this

[Hedera]

Aha, what studies, got any links, bud?

[Asker]

Make Tinder profiles or look up vids on the results for average girls, average guys, ugly girls, and ugly guys. Its depressing

[Hedera]

My guy, I'm a science student. Those 'vids' you speak of generally have no scientific basis are generally just bs spread around by incel and MGTOW communities to make women look like heartless narcissists. I don't have the time to make a bunch of fake profiles and do my own in-depth study into Tinder (an app I despise) and using just Tinder would be a biased study anyway, as it is only one small fraction of the overall 'dating scene'.

Also, you can't use things like 'swipes' as evidence as it has been indicated the a lot of dudes on Tinder will just swipe right on almost all women, waiting to go through their 'matched' list later and 'weed out' any of the 'ugly' ones. Women, on the other hand, are more likely to read profiles or at least consider who they swipe right, rather than just swiping will-nilly. This, of course, makes guys seem less picky when you just consider swipes when in reality they are just as picky.

[Asker]

The vids prove the hypothesis, that's literally the scientific method, dear. Women will hook up with men, regardless of how they act, so long as they're very good looking

[Hedera]

Yeah and guys will do the same to chicks!

[Asker]

Not really no, even ugly chicks get sex easily

[Hedera]

And you know this how?

[Asker]

Again, plenty of experiments. Also that inceldom is a strictly male problem

[Hedera]

Any links, buddy?

[Asker]

Just punch it into Youtube

[Msputiton]

It is so easy to push the blame off on someone else instead of taking responsibility for someone's own actions.

Incels may not deserve full blame.

But the vial hate they spew because they do not want to accept any fault in them being single, or unable to have sex is the problem.

The good looking men with bad attitudes don't get laid dispite bad attitudes they are fake and pretend to be nice and usually have perfected this fake persona.

Incels running around saying i hate women, and bash them nonstop, and then are shocked they can't get a woman, and say it's not my fault it's women fault.

Women are not perfect and we have flaws but if you can't do something billions of people do everyday, maybe start looking in the mirror and saying what am I doing wrong?

[Asker]

The thing is the really good looking guys do get sex, regardless of how they act

[DownIndaDumpz]

That ain't true

[DownIndaDumpz]

I wish it was, the way you act and your personality has major impact.. even tho I'm a good looking guy I find it hard to woo a girl because I don't know what to say, I usually start by talking sexual to her and that scares her away

[Asker]

what isn't?

[DownIndaDumpz]

Even ugly guys are more attractive to girls than me because I'm conversationally ugly

[Asker]

Ok, you're only decent looking and experiments have been done. Chad looking guys talk to women like that and get laid still

[DownIndaDumpz]

Hmm ok that explains , I thought I was handsome but if I'm average this explain everything lol

[DownIndaDumpz]

Well shit lol

[MCheetah]

It's a vicious cycle. It's like, most of them were probably nice, normal men. Then they got sh*t on so many times, they gave up being nice and became bitter. You can't say "they hate women, and bash women nonstop" when women were the ones insulting most of them in the first place. That's like bullying someone and then getting mad he told the principal on you, so you bully them even harder.

[MCheetah]

@Msputiton

[Asker]

I blocked you mccheetah, can't see it

[MCheetah]

Because 1) people suck, 2) society always likes to sh*t on men and people who they deem "losers", 3) the far-left woke feminists are the ones controlling the media narrative right now (or at least, that's the perception), and 4) they're an easy target when you can lump them all as being "school shooters" like Eliot Rodger and potential rapists.

Yeah I know they had that /r/incel subreddit a while back, but come on... It's REDDIT! Everyone on that entire site should be monitored by the FBI. That's like saying "there are rude people on Twitter."

I'm not one, but I understand what they're going through. To be given sh*t no matter how hard you try, and then when you give up, people give you MORE sh*t? Ironically, it's usually the same people who always talk about "bullying being bad" who immediately calls someone who disagrees with their idiotic, usually feminist viewpoints on the internet "an incel." It's such projection.

Speaking of which, feminists and incels are the EXACT same type of people, and yet feminists are celebrated and get to host The Oscars, while incels get to kill themselves while no one cares and women sit around going "good; he was a misogynist anyway" while they were the ones bullying him online and calling him names to begin with.

TL;DR: People are sh*tty. Sh*tty people create more sh*tty people. That's how incels are created.

[Anonymous]

Guys do it because men are gladiatorial. And in nature the animal that APPEARS weak will always get attacked.
Women do it because there are 2 types of guys to them "friends" (harmless trusting simps.. you might as well be one of their girlfriend's) and and "sharks" the guys the both love and hate at the same time. They're sweet but mean, attractive yet arrogant, tough and rugged yet soft and attentive, aloof, distant and mysterious. Most the time women see what they want to see in them and then they're left their smashed feelings when they finally come back to reality lol.
But the former group of guy the " friends" you have to understand they don't really see as men. These guys don't fulfill her desires in anyway. They'll never this guy as anything but a friend. And when these guys complain about it. You become one of their "girlfriend's" who b****ing too much. S h e may pity you for a bit. But like anyone who complains to much you just become a girlfriend that's a pain. And then she just has disdain for you. So basically an incel is just a guy that a woman has no respect for as a man.
If you take away anything from this post remember this. There are good women and bad women and how they treat a guy is different. But neither have any respect for a guy that doesn't respect himself. Incel or not, NEVER let a woman decide your value. A man just IS! Treat women right! Treat them well. But do it BECAUSE you're a man. And no other reason.

[ChrisMaster69]

Because they deserve it.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-trending-44053828

When they stop ranting and raging at people who have done nothing.

When they stop murdering defenceless children, a 3 yr old with a life ahead of them.

https://theconversation.com/inside-the-warped-world-of-incel-extremists-166142

[Asker]

Why are they doing it, think about it, Chris. Break your programming

[ChrisMaster69]

Because they are abject failures and basically scum.

[Asker]

Y do you say that?

[ChrisMaster69]

I’ve known and know guys who for various reasons will never have sex, they get on with life. Accept things as they are and do not moan about shit, definitely do not go our murdering people because they cannot get a girlfriend.

I do not know a single guy who has anything good to say about them, majority view it as North American fuckwits who are just pathetic individuals

[Asker]

"Just don't have sex, no big deal" alright Chris, stop having sex then. If it's not a big deal

[ChrisMaster69]

I have in the past.

Try not being a toxic arsehole ….. yeah that’s going to be a hard one for you, likely have a better chance at getting laid.

[Asker]

Stop altogether, forever. If you won't then don't talk.

That's the problem, you don't listen. They are mad BECAUSE they can't get laid. It's not that they can't get laid because they're mad. Why aren't you able to grasp that?

[ChrisMaster69]

The big reason is they are pathetic toxic arseholes, who show zero respect to women and blame them for everything.

Burns victims, acid victims, people with mental health issues, disabled people, etc manage to get girlfriends, get married, even have kids.

It’s down to a pathetic attitude of those individuals, so toxic no one would touch them

[Asker]

Many aren't though, and most weren't before getting rejected a bunch.

Yes, a super statistically small amount.

Keep being stupid though, Chris

[ChrisMaster69]

Oh it’s not just me, I’m currently with 15 other people and we all pretty much said the same thing,

Actually some I can’t type lol.

@SaoirseS you are right, it’s a laugh when you have a bunch of Forces people reading this shit 😂

[Asker]

16 low iq idiots

[ChrisMaster69]

Lol, nope pretty much all are aircraft engineers with degrees etc.

[ChrisMaster69]

Yeah it’s a class room

[Asker]

And you're just showing this in the middle of class, such a poser lmao

[ChrisMaster69]

Last one before I go.

Would an Incel scream when you fed him into a wood chipper?

Fuck knows, Who really cares…

Why did the incel cross the road?

Trick question, they never leave their parents’ basement.

How many incels does it take to screw a lightbulb?

None. No self respecting light bulb would want to be screwed by an incel.

How many incels does it take to screw in a lightbulb?

One.

But then he'll get mad and smash the bulb because the girl he changed it for wouldn't have sex with him in return.

What was the name of Bilbo’s incel cousin?

Stillno Shaggins

[Asker]

Have fun in hell

[slatyb]

The problem is not that they are frustrated, it's that they blame the world for their problems instead of trying to do something to improve their attractiveness. There are plenty of men who are short, or bald, or not conventionally attractive, who have lovely partners. I had a colleague, about 5-5 and prematurely bald, arrived in town about 180 pounds. He got into climbing, got fit, met a woman on Coffee Meets Bagel and they've been together since.

Watch "Murderball". There are guys in wheelchairs with beautiful girlfriends. If the incels would stop whining and do something, they wouldn't be incels.

[Asker]

Many do with no success

[slatyb]

Do what? Do they learn to say "hello" to a woman and make conversation without immediately asking her for a date? Most of them admit to having NO female friends.

[HighlyVolatile]

It's a self-fulfilling and self-defeating prophecy as I see it for a man to call himself an incel while wanting to get laid. How clueless is he about socializing with women? They can call themselves voluntary celibate like some monks if that's what they want. Calling themselves involuntary celibates just seems dumb. What are they expecting, for women to sleep with them out of pity? Why do these people focus so much on the idea that looks are needed to get laid when they're broadcasting the most anti-social and unappealing message that almost guarantees that they'll never get laid?

[Asker]

Because they've done experments on Tinder. They could act just as shitty but women will agree to fuck them when they use catfish photos of male models. That's why, which entirely debunks the whole shitty personality excuse

[HighlyVolatile]

Tinder sucks as well as online dating in general. Drawing conclusions about what women want from Tinder is probably even worse than drawing it from a nightclub.

[Asker]

It's applicable irl too...

[HighlyVolatile]

How so? You go out to a crowded place and only see men who are either good-looking or rich only with girlfriends and wives?

[Asker]

Mostly yeah

[HighlyVolatile]

Maybe we hang out in very different places. But you know, do you want people like myself or anyone else to help you have the best chances of finding a date, or do you want to focus on how it's impossible for you to never get one? Because I can guarantee if you're stuck in the incel mindset and hang out with other incels you're pretty much sealing that fate. Life offers few guarantees, only odds, but about the closest thing a guarantee of never getting laid is to consider yourself an incel.

[Asker]

I don't mean me, I'm attractive enough that I dont have this issue

[HighlyVolatile]

In that case, any incel. Any person who thinks it's hopeless to accomplish anything they want pretty much guarantees long-term failure. Take a sports analogy. Someone who tries a new sport and fails a few times and says it's hopeless practically guarantees that they'll never improve it.

[Asker]

You ever notice how there's no good looking incels? Why do you think that is?

[HighlyVolatile]

I might pose the counter-question that you ever notice that some men who are poor and ugly with beer bellies have girlfriends? They're not that hard to find.

[Asker]

They really are tho

[HighlyVolatile]

Where do you live if I may ask? Urban and fashionable area?

[Lionman95]

Because they make the mistake of putting sex on a pedestral that´s not there. We live in an over-sexualized culture but sex in itself isn´t the main thing in life. These guys and I´ve been one myself have the problem that they are too focused on sex thinking they are entitled to getting it just because they are a guy. But that´s not how life works.
Another thing is that at least those I were contact with never had any interest of being in a relationship or had any ideas that it would actually be harder than they imagined to be.
Many of them also don´t love themselves, so who is going to love you if you hate yourself?
I think it´s wrong to throw dirt on them but it´s still important to really talk to them because many have bad misconceptions about relationships and sex and are simply not ready for either.

[Asker]

All that is because they can't get any. If they did those issues would subside

[Lionman95]

But that´s part of life. The world and life is more than sex. No one can or should be made to sleep with a guy if she doesn´t want to. I think looking back many incels have a completely wrong picture of themselves or women. Because what happens if they have sex and it´s completely awful because they are inexperienced? They start to put all the blame on the woman not realizing that she didn´t enjoy it either.

[DaveJord]

An incel is a member of an online subculture of people who define themselves as unable to get a romantic or sexual partner despite desiring one.

Well if you define yourself as some one who is unable to get romantic... then who else are you supposed to blame for not being able to invest in a romantic relationship?

So it depends on what type of relationships you are pursuing and if you being honest about your intimacy issues with your partners before engaging in a sexual relationship.

[DownIndaDumpz]

It's one thing to be rejected and it's another to take it out on innocent people, I've been rejected by girls my whole life and I'm still a virgin, I've been very sad about it, but I know it's because I'm doing something wrong so I have no one else to blame but myself.. to take it out on innocent people who done nothing wrong my own mistake is jus dumb,
Being rejected doesn't make you kill people,

These incel killers jus don't have the maturity to own up for their own mistakes and blame others

[Asker]

Ok, wht are you doing wrong bro?

[DownIndaDumpz]

It's like being a murderer and kill loads of people and then your excuse is "I was bullied in school"

Being bullied doesn't make you do it. You chose to do it. There's no excuse for that asshole behaviour

[Asker]

Ok, find me someone that isn't rejected by society that shoots up schools

[DownIndaDumpz]

ok so all the people that do it have been rejected but they didn't have to... And also you will notice the guys who have been rejected by society and don't kill inocent people... Are nice people... N the ones that do are jus assholes

[DownIndaDumpz]

I dunno what I'm doing wrong, I get sexual too qucik and girls aren't easy, at all. Lol

[SnakeBoop]

because they turn that frustration into toxic mindsets and go and shoot up schools for no reason.
lack of sex means fuck all, and if they can't handle it, they shouldn't be around. Because to get so incensed over that is fucking stupid.

[Asker]

You have no empathy at all. Try not hving sex and not feeling loved and see what happens to your mental state

[SnakeBoop]

yeah, i don't go shooting people when I don't get sex.
its a shit mentality and shows you should not be around human beings.
so no empathy for trolls like you ;)

[Asker]

Are you a vrgin?

[Hedera]

Heya! 24 year old virgin here! I'm also straight (so not ace) and would very much like to have sex some day with the right person!
And guess what? I've NEVER once had the inclination to shoot up a school! Maybe that's because I don't have a shitty personality that I pretend is the fault of others not giving me the sex!

[Asker]

You're a virgin by choice, its not the same, hun

[Hedera]

By 'virgin by choice' do you mean 'not throwing myself at every man I see?'
Cause really, if you really want sex, that's what hookers are for. If you are refusing to see a hooker, then you too are not having sex by choice.

[Asker]

Prostitution isn't legal everywhere. When I say virgin by choice I mean you throw it at nobody

[Hedera]

Well then, I'm definitely not an incel then. I'm also not religious, so I'm not doing any of that 'saving it til marriage' crap.

[SnakeBoop]

if I am a virgin, I best change my name to Mary cuz I got two kids XD

[SnakeBoop]

but troll gotta troll lmao

[Hedera]

What I meant is, I am not actively choosing to 'not' have sex, I'm just not about to let any rando guy stick it in me. The guy has gotta be nice, for starters, and preferably washed and under 35.

[SnakeBoop]

@Hedera don't waste your time on this troll lol

[Hedera]

@SnakeBoop xD I'm glad that everyone else under this post seems to be sane, lol. If this guy doesn't realise he's an incel then he's dreaming.

[Asker]

I'm not, try again, why does my comment keep getting deleted?

[DownIndaDumpz]

I've never been loved but also never wanted to kill innocent random people, maybe your jus stupid if you blame others for your failures, fuck did innocent people do?

[Asker]

You're not listening and I'm not an incel. I'll ask again, how is it your fault if the Chad's can act like you do and still get sex?

[DownIndaDumpz]

Sorry about that, it jus pisses me off when I look on the news and seeing innocent people getting killed cos a virgin couldn't pay a prostitute... Imagine walking down the park jus enjoying the day... And some virgin asshole shoots you for no Reason.. that's why these shooters piss me off

[DownIndaDumpz]

And isn't my fault, but it's also not a girls fault that she doesn't find ugly guys attractive, that's to be expected, and it's also not a little girl walking down the parks fault who gets shot in the head by a virgin killer

[Asker]

You aren't ugly tho and very few incels go postal

[DownIndaDumpz]

Thanks 😇

And honestly I see where you're coming from actually, I know what it's like to be not loved and you wanna take it out on someone 😭. If that's you... I emphasize, it's not nice being rejected by girls so much when you jus want someone to like you 😭

But at the same time I think if you're sad about it and upset about your failures.. I think you should take out your anger and frustration in yourself by blowing your brains out.. that's what I'd do.. it's better to do that than to take it out on random strangers

[IMuser]

So your fundamental assumption is that a lack of love and sex is what frustrates you and turns you into someone who commits murders

My question to you: why should you be loved and why would a girl (or a guy if you are gay) have sex with you?

[Asker]

You think no love or sex isn't a reason to be frustrated and won't effect your mental health? Are you a fucking schmuck or what?

[IMuser]

It is a reason to be frustrated however you didn't answer my question: why should a girl or guy love you?

[IMuser]

I recommend that you study religion (any religion of your choice) instead of focussing your mind on sex. It will help you, trust me

[Asker]

This isn't about me, and stop deflecting. Plenty of incels act normal, you'd just like to pretend otherwise as it deflates your narrative that they all just deserve it

[IMuser]

My only question is this: if someone is an incel (not having any romantic or sexual relationships), why is that? And can they do anything about it?

Why do other people get into relationships and incels cannot? Both of them are human yet what is the difference between them?

[Asker]

Because they're hot, many are actual mysoginists and have had plenty of sex

[genericname85]

i think "incel" is a bullshit word to begin with. "involuntarily celibate". everyone can get fucked if they "want". "wanting" meaning doing what's necessary to get laid. that most likely includes lowering your expectations. if you don't do that, you don't get laid. but then you're voluntarily celibate, cause you choose not to do what's necessary.

[Hedera]

OP, have you tried rubbing one out and then focusing on something to do with your life other than sex or a relationship? People aren't obligated to give you sex and you shouldn't be upset when they don't. That's what fleshlights are for.

[Asker]

I'm not an incel, and why do you assume incels dont also focus on other things?

[Hedera]

The way you have been replying to the people on this posts, you sure sound like one to me. In my experience, incels are way too obsessed with "WhY dOeSn'T sHe wAnT tO fUcK mE" to take a good hard look at themselves and realise why.

[Asker]

Because you created a strawman in your head and wish to dismiss rather than listen. I'm actually capable of empathisizing, you aren't

[Zolly99999]

They have mental health issues for sure. It's like sitting on the couch all day and bitching about not being rich then not even bother to look for a job..
You know if people put a little effort into themselves they would be more successful! I know this first hand... I"m not attractive at all (4/10) but I have no problem attracting women.. I put a little work into myself and worked on my self confidence and personality and that's was the key for me.. do I can do it anyone can do it !!!

[Asker]

Ok, so how do you explain the ones that do and get nowhere?

[Zolly99999]

What you think you will get every girl you talk too? It doesn't work that way.. if i talk to 10 girls i might have luck with 3-4 at best.. you will always get more rejections then phone numbers. You can't get bent out of shape over a rejection.. just brush it off and move on.. and do not expect too much..

[Anonymous]

For the same reason people blame feminists. They words and actions show their hatred for the opposite sex.

[Opinion Owner]

*Their

[Anonymous]

It’s a joker situation this is yet again a monster that society created I have no pity for any of the victims either