Why do people hate incels?

[Anonymous]

I have seen that a lot people hate incels and say they are misogynist and what not. I have seen a lot of nice guys who no matter what can't get any girls. Even if they respect and treat women well, women are still gonna go for the chads and the bad guys.

And also try being a 5'6, bald, indian, Asian then you will know. Women see them as disgusted creatures and nothing else. Why is that tall and white guys don't become incels comparatively? There's obviously something wrong. Because they know whatever they do they'll be able to bang 3-4 women simultaneously.

You can see many statistics of women filtering men by height and what not. Is that data fake or something?

This is basically total ignorance. Tell me if a tall white guy approaches you vs a short bald indian/ Asian/ black guy who would you be inclined towards? And don't tell personality because personality only matters for becoming friends and nothing more. For being romantically interested being physical is important for most of y'all, isn't it?

Also a lot of people will argue that women also might face this problem but the thing is height in women, finance are not even considered by majority of the men. The only things considered are which can be changed. Weight can be lost with workouts. Face can be changed with makeup and it's acceptable for most women. And now people will say what about the assets as always. But tbh most men don't care about assets compared to women who see a man's height. Height is a complete deal breaker. More important things is most the things are unchangeable in the man's case.

Incels can maximum reach to the friendzone and they are gonna get eliminated in the physical attraction area.

Just digest the truth that incels are really going through a problem.

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Just wanted to add some things that I support a woman's freedom as well and no one is forcing anyone to be with anyone. But social media brainwashes people to prefer some specific stereotypes which hurts people who don't align with that.

[Dazed0N0Confused]

Unfortunately, incels have started to become more... Violent, in the real world. "Joking" online about physically harming women because they can't get a date is also not a good move.

Some are telling women that "all men deserve sex" or that when women weren't permitted to be equal to men was better or when women weren't allowed to be "promiscuous" (having more than one partner & one partner only their entire lives) was better for all men...

Look, no one is more or less deserving of having sex. Your personality plays a big damned role in whether or not you get laid!

Even these "Chad's" know that they have to look halfway decent, compliment a woman, know how to TALK to a woman, look people in the eye, have a semblance of confidence and so forth to get laid! Also, "Chad"s also cast a wide net for their prospects.

While it may look like they are always getting size 00 women, they're also getting bigger bodied ladies. Some people learn to be funny or play an instrument and so forth. Not every woman is getting a Chad or a bad boy. A woman is looking for a partner who is going to be her equal (ie bring flowers when he's at the store & the bouquet makes him think of her) & make her feel special. She's not looking for a man-child who thinks he should be waited on hand & foot like his momma did when he was a child. It's not a good look on an adult.

[Asker]

I know a lot people are willing to do the things you said. But I've seen if you conduct a survey most women say 6ft and it's an overwhelming majority. They have excuses like I have to wear high heels and still has to be taller than me. Like what? And there's a lot of women who do that believe me, just search it up on YouTube "does height matter" And an overwhelming majority will say and most of them like 6ft. And it's not like I'm bringing these words from nowhere.

[bamesjond0069]

You have some good points however your comment contributes to incels. Continually promoting nonsense because of social pressure and culture that y'all women know is wrong and then incels listen to it and continue to fail with women... "A woman is looking for a partner who is going to be her equal" error error. This is absolutely not true. Women date and treat men well only if they are her superior, women do not want some egalitarian equal relationship. Im pretty good with women and i am specifically against such things. Women say eww weird thats off putting you're a molester you have a small penis yadda yadda yadda but i get more girls than my friends as a single man and when i have a girlfriend they always treat me like gold. But most men prefer to listen to women about equality and they have little to no success with women. So from my pov the biggest cause of incels is women saying this stuff to men and men listening to it.

[DollAlone]

I literally had to go look up that word only to find out that it refers to a guy who can't get chicks so he becomes bitter and misogynistic. Thats sad and pathetic but also very inaccurate. I've seen both ugly men and women who are married with kids and have normal relationships. And i often wondered how they found someone who would be attracted to them until i discovered they were beautiful on the inside and it made up for their lack of beauty. So considering the fact that some of these incels actually celebrate when there are mass shootings and tend to display violent behavior would lead me to the conclusion that the so called incels are not short or ugly or whatever physically, they are bitter, hateful, envious, psychopaths who are ugly inside AND out and their shitty attitudes are what makes them come up "short"

[Asker]

Why is that tall guys don't become incels? Because they know they'll get to bang women anyways.

[DollAlone]

You have met every incel on the planet? Have you ever considered that there are tall guys who just dont prefer to label themselves or become incels but it doesn't mean they are gettimg any more sex than a short guy. Taller guys may keep it more private cause they feel like short guys look up to them (no pun intended) and feel like they have this reputation to protect due to guys like you stereo typing them OR maybe they just prefer to keep their sex life or lack of one to themself?

[DollAlone]

Its like me saying only hot blondes with big boobs are getting all the men so im going to become a recluse and secretly hate men who like blondes

[Asker]

You see what the problem is. You're comparing tall guys with a hot blonde. Meaning you're saying that all of us like hot blonde. It's completely false but I have seen almost all women like tall men. There's no comparison. Tall men are kept on pedestal. They are considered are more in the hierarchy. And that's the only thing I'm against of.

[DollAlone]

Well i literally know a lot of tall dudes who are assholes or too shy and dont get chicks while several of my guy friends who are like 5"6 have good looking taller girlfriend's. So every situation is different

[Asker]

No my point is not that. What I'm trying is I do agree there are many short guys who can get girls of course. But what I'm against of is that on general level tall guys are considered superior in dating. And you can't compare hot blonde with it because a lot of men don't like it either. Lot of us like brunettes as well or any other. But as for height it's not a type thing. It's more like the higher the better.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

I don't hate them I feel bad for them. I wish I could get to them and make them see that the world is not how they think.
You say personality doesn't matter? There are studies about this you know? Women's rating of men drastically changes after getting to know them. For better and for worse depending on if she liked you or not. Men's ratings of women don't change much after knowing them. So yes who you are matters way more to than you think. Scientifically proven.

I saw a shorter, uglier guy than me hook up with my highschool crush at a party. To accept that the problem is who you are is much harder than to just believe that's because of how you look.

Now if looks help? Of course they do! For sure they help. But they are not everything. An average looking guy scoring hot girls is what you see most. Is much more rare to see a handsome guy with an ugly girl.

What you can do is improve yourself. Join the guy, learn thing to be able to talk about any topic, get a hobby outside of the house. Do those three and you will see improvement long term.

Also don't just go after models. Go for average and below average girls. They are the ones more likely to give you a shot at least for now.

[Asker]

But hypergamy is also a thing. I don't know women in those sections will also ignore me.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

Hypergamy is not a thing. You want a perfect girl? They also want the perfect guy.
Doesn't mean they would leave a guy they truly love lust because one is richer or hotter. To women connection matters a lot.

[Asker]

I don't want a perfect girl in conventional sense. For example a lot of people will call megan fox 10/10 but I don't consider her because she is just not my type. But almost all women I hear say 6ft and up. It's like almost a hard preference borderline requirement.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

Most girls want a guy taller than then, true. Just like most guys don't want a girl taller than them.
I know it's hard to find one person that we have both physical and emotional connection. But don't give up. Like I said, turn yourself into the best version you can be and don't be afraid to go for ugly girls. They tend to be super nice and wild in bed.

[Asker]

I have seen a lot of guys who are willing to go with taller women but it doesn't happen vice versa. Women care a lot more about height. You can see a lot of videos you will know it. Secondly define an ugly girl. My on preference for a girl is being fit because I like fitness myself. And being fit is by choice and lifestyle and not been given by birth. It's pretty reasonable.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

Ugly as in face and body. By your words if she is not slim then you don't want her. Am I right?

[Asker]

Not slim just fit. Why do people change the sentence to fit it according to their perspective. Even though I have abs I would not expect anyone to have the same. Just fit nothing else. And face wise it's hard to say because what you might call ugly might be good to me.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

I didn't mean to misconduct what you said, that's why I asked if I was right.
Still you want a fit girl as a mandatory criteria. You don't think about accepting a non fit girl?

[Asker]

Meaning obese? Then no. Because obesity is quite dangerous for health. But I will try to let the other person know that it is unhealthy but if they are still don't care then I can't do pretty much anything.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

Obese no. But slightly overweight. Would you?

[Asker]

It's hard to say without a picture. I'm not gonna understand on text.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

That's ok. Anyway wish you best of luck dude. For real 👍

[Phoenix-gb]

There is a vocal subset who possess abhorrent views, but as with any sub-strata of society, as they are the most vocal, all those in that group (whether they associate or not) get tarred with the same brush.

That being said, I do have one thing I disagree on, I'm 6"3' and white and am in this same situation, so height and skin tone aren't the magic bullet you think they are.

Unfortunately what I am is a safe prospect, I'm not likely to lead someone on or cheat, so I'm viewed as boring, regardless of what interests I might actually have.

[Asker]

But you do accept that you have a big advantage. Right?

[Phoenix-gb]

Insofar as I have seen dating profiles specifying height online. It's less an advantage, than not a disadvantage. Doesn't seem to have helped me any, I'm still single, unwanted and unloved.

[Asker]

Because after that you have to put efforts as well. But in our cases we're eliminated even before we put the efforts.

[Phoenix-gb]

And now you've lost me, I was originally supporting your idea that not everyone in this situation should be tarred with the same brush of the minority, but now you're, and I'm paraphrasing, saying I have not put effort into changing my situation.

This isn't a competition of who has it hardest, where we're at sucks for everyone in this group, and no perceived advantages or disadvantages help or hinder any party more than the other. I've been putting in effort and it has changed nothing, I too, am eliminated before I even attempt as I have seen no interest from anyone I've ever interacted with.

So no, I don't agree that I have a big advantage, because if I did then the effort I have put in would have yielded results, and it hasn't. A word to the wise, don't personally attack someone if you're trying to get them to agree with you.

[Asker]

No one is attacking I'm just giving my opinions. How can a short guy have guts to attack someone jk anyways 🤣🤣.

[DaveJord]

Incel definition- a member of an online community of young men who consider themselves unable to attract women sexually, typically associated with views that are hostile toward women and men who are sexually active.

The question is why do people hate incels?

Answer- I do not think people really hate them as much as they do not care enough to care about them. Its in the definition that incels have hostile views... then go on to attempt to justify your view point. So if you are projecting hostility or provocating negative view points against the opposite sex then ask your self; "When was the last time you were attracted to a negative or hostile person?"

You reap what you sow. If you are constantly looking for something or projecting it on other people, then you will find it and/or get it back from them.

[Asker]

I'm not provocating negative view points. I'm just stating things which I have seen.

[DaveJord]

And if it comes off as negative then people will react negatively... be more positive that's the message is me sending. Tell me something positive about being a incel?

[Asker]

Truth taken seriously is positive for ignoring the wrong things in society. Meaning stereotypes.

[Gaibriel]

There's a difference between a guy who can't get dates and some whiny sore loser who hates women cos he is the problem and can't get is cock stuffed in some pussy.

Some actual nice dudes can't find a woman due to disability or even looks.

It's sad but the truth. Those men might be lonely and even hurt but they don't take their pain out on all women.

Then you have the incel who just rage cos their personality is shit.

Elliot Roger's wasn't ugly! He actually was kinda handsome but his personality was what was off.

He took this as women must not think I'm attractive and therefore shallow.

The dude obsessed and who would want to date someone like that?

[Asker]

First of all elliot rogers was wrong. Second I know he wasn't ugly but he was 5'5 and half Asian

[Gaibriel]

Well I think he was attractive but that's me and idc about height lol. Ya he was wrong and he let it destroy him instead of bettering himself and gaining confidence. Instead he went dark side and blamed everyone else.

[Asker]

You don't care about height because you're a guy. But women do care.

[SamIam96]

Beauty is more than skin deep. A handsome man may attract sexual partners on his looks alone -- even if he has misogynistic or other ugly personality traits. If you weren't blessed with natural good looks, you don't have a chance if your personality is unattractive as well.

I have a friend who by most standards is not handsome. He's 5'4, a little thick, balding. The hair he has looks like he's had an electric shock. He's also hilariously funny, smart and listens when people talk. When we were in school, he had as much sex as he wanted. He'll be married in a few months.

How many times have you walked down the street and seen an average guy with a beautiful woman? My guess is that the guy is happy with who he is, he treats women well and has a healthy attitude.

My 2¢

[Little_Bumblebee]

I don't hate incels because they're incels.

I do however hate when I see usually incels, hate women, and are petty because they don't get sex.
You see incels who talk about raping or murdering women because they're angry and think they are entitled to have sex, and that's where the issue is.

[Asker]

Yes, I'm against that as well. No one should go physical for that. But the thing doesn't change the fact that incels don't go through problems.

[Little_Bumblebee]

I'm sure they do, struggle with how to interact properly with women or something else.
They just shouldn't make that other's issue.

[Asker]

No matter how they interact, they are into friendzone.

[Little_Bumblebee]

You put yourself into the friendzone. You let yourself stay there.
If she's not into you, and you are into her, then nobody is saying that you have to keep being "friends" with her.
Don't pretend to be friends just in the hopes to get into her pants.

[BarryLiverstone]

@Asker you have gotten 7 answers and only interacted with the pink accounts. I would suggest you interact with others as well. Also if you want to avoid the friend zone then don’t put yourself into it.

[Asker]

It's like we don't have any other choice. Either we become friends or nothing. There's only two options most of the times. We didn't choose to become a friend. We just can't go further than that or 9/11 will be called upon us.

[Heartache0405]

I don’t understand how guys are the ones actively putting themselves into the friend zone when they’re the ones who want something more than friends? @BarryLiverstone, @Little_Bumblebee

I feel as though saying that is just to put blame on the male and give the female an out. As if it’s ok for men to be hurt just for trying and expected to just let that hurt bounce off him as if he doesn’t have feelings and emotions. Well, constantly being friend zoned by women they want something more with will cause them to become emotionless. I’m a prime example

[BarryLiverstone]

It’s not about blaming men or women; we are individuals. Someone who put themself in the friend zone did so because they are not being honest. If you like someone as more than just a friend then tell them.

[Heartache0405]

Don’t you think that’s been tried before? When things have been tried before again and again with the same result why continue that trend? Now it’s the man who has to make ALL OF the effort? Why? The women should just sit back and be like “nope... nope... nope... oh he’s cute, but nope... nope... nope... hmm, nope. Nope, nnnnnah, nope, he seems to meet the requirements, ohhhhh but wait, he’s not ______. Oh well, next

[Illuci]

Definition of incel

: a person (usually a man) who regards himself or herself as being involuntarily celibate and typically expresses extreme resentment and hostility toward those who are sexually active

a member of an online community of young men who consider themselves unable to attract women sexually, typically associated with views that are hostile towards women and men who are sexually active.

Why do you want to define yourself as an incel anyway

It's a derogatory term meant as an insult.

Just because you are single doesn't automatically mean you are an incel... You only become an incel if you show resentment towards sexually active women and men.

[Asker]

Why is that women prefer chads aka tall and white guys?

[HighlyVolatile]

If you've lost all hope of attracting women then why not just be celibate as in the case of a monk? It's the "involuntary" part that gets me. However slim your odds are, you've made them slim to almost 0% chance by adopting the label of incel and hanging out with people in the same boat.

[Asker]

What do you recommend then if the chances will still be at 0% anyways?

[HighlyVolatile]

How do you know it's 0%? Is that based on volume? You know, a Poker player can lose aces to deuces 10 times in a row. That's not even that rare. Unlike Poker, we don't even have to gamble money to try to interact with a woman. Even a rejection can be considered a win in a sense because you get to know she's not your type and move on. Win-win!

You know, if I relate it to sports, I sometimes see a guy trying a new one and maybe he falls on his butt a few times. He's not very good starting out. But if he starts saying, "I'm hopeless, I suck, I'll never become any good at this," then I don't find much to sympathize with as he sits out the entire rest of the game. Maybe he's not going to become a star but he grossly underestimates his ability to improve and become decent, and that's all you have to be to have a fighting chance for a date.

[HighlyVolatile]

And to enjoy life the most, you have to enjoy the journey to your goals and not just the prospect of reaching the goal. It's fun to talk to girls, make them smile, and laugh, even if they turn you down. You don't need to be built like a hunk to make girls smile and laugh. And if you really enjoy it, you might find without even trying that you click with one and have a date.

[Asker]

Talking to one person is different and attracting is different. Of course I can reach till the friendzone but what after that?

[HighlyVolatile]

Maybe you need to pull a few more moves. You have to gamble a bit if you want to win. That means losing bigger but also winning bigger. If you are in a conversation with a pretty girl and you're clicking, try to steer it to an invitation to spend time together. A conversation about food can be steered to one about inviting her to your favorite restaurant, for a simple example.

And this is something you can practice! You can get better. There's an endless number of women to practice on. Even practicing charming men (as buddies, not lovers) tends to carry over a bit to skills useful to charm women.

[Asker]

What if she says she's not interested for going with me anywhere?

[HighlyVolatile]

Then you have to respect her wishes, but don't see that as a loss. If you can get her to smile and laugh doing that, you might have still made her day even if you're not her type. Have fun with it, and be proud of yourself that you still had it in you to make a move here.

[dustybiker]

It isn’t incels in how the term started; Men who lived without relationships, not by choice.
It’s what the term has blown up to include.. bitter angry men who have been hurt and taking it out on the world, so can’t get let alone keep relationships.
Like everything. What starts as benign ends up getting warped and twisted by the rotten apples in the bunch who claim something (or abuse it) without true understanding of the meaning.

[Anonymous]

Well, some incels are bad and tend to commit crimes against women but not most, yet they tend to get hate from society. Women control dating and sex and the cut-off is always high. Guys who can drift through the barrier definitely are above average. Of course, not-so-qualified men will get hate. Women can be incels too but the number is exceptionally low than men.
Generally, young men and older women are bitter about dating. Women get bitter not for sex but for not being able to secure a relationship.

[wittymilf]

I read this, I saw it and thought not another one of those blame women or disrespect women for having a choice in who they might be attracted to posts.. but then I thought 🤔 give it a chance 😂😂 but nah it’s exactly what I expected.

[Asker]

I didn't even blame anyone. But anyways.

[zagor]

I've got news for you - there are a lot of tall white guys who do very poorly in that department. Admittedly it is usually because they are very ugly, very shy, or have bad personalities, not because they are tall and white. But don't assume that being so solves your problems.

[bamesjond0069]

Its because your attitude sucks. Incels are generally bad people. Womens attractions have some real issues but you have a bad attitude about it instead of a good one. You have no masculinity is the heart of the issue you act like a woman whining and complaining.

[Twalli]

Incel isn't just someone who can't get sex. It's where a guy who can't get it by acting nice to girls begins to hate them and is a misogynist. Undoubtedly girls want hot sex partners. Yet if she wants a relationship, attractiveness won't go too far. So those guys who used to act nice actually hurt their chances even more. Although anyone who just acts nice to get girls is a pretty shitty person.

[Anonymous]

Because they refuse to claim their role in society. The simple truth is to a woman as a guy you're either one of 2 things. You're either a man or one of her girlfriend's. There is no middle ground. If you're a man you have to make a serious play for her. Keep in mind just because you're serious doesn't mean she will be. But that's part of being a man to them, accepting it!

[MCheetah]

People are garbage and society in general has never cared for men. Of course they'd see incels as an easy punching bag because feminists and the woke control the mainstream media right now.

[Agape93]

Because they tend to be or support misogyny, rape etc.

Not to mention thinking so little of us that y'all have literally reduced us to a caricature.

[Asker]

I didn't even support. And a lot of incels don't support it. Of course some people split away from ideological differences. I'm against force and violence. Check my update.

[Agape93]

Good for you, you're not one of the shit heads then. But sadly, you're among the very quiet faction of incel

[Anonymous]

Girls find them unattractive as a category so naturally they’re going to be condemned.


Kinda weird though, they’re one of the only groups who people will see their suffering and then shit on them for it. With pretty much every other group with a struggle that group gets increased sympathy. Incels are like the one exception. Imagine going to any other group and saying “haha, you’re sad”, it would be super weird, but that’s how people treat incels.

[ChrisMaster69]

Your question fairly much sums up why they are not liked.

like most MIMB’s

Short Piers and all that

[Yucy_Gluttony]

Before I answer could you tell me what an incel is?

[TheFlak38]

Men cannot get laid no matter what and will die virgins.

[Yucy_Gluttony]

@TheFlak38 OO -fufu- BRUTAL! I don't look at stats but at what I experienced in my life, the people who surround me. A friend of mine barely reached my shoulder, but he's been succesful with the girls he sets his eyes upon. He is smart, funny and very very kind. So that's a short guy conquering hearts.
Then there is a teacher I had for sports. He was strong physically, very friendly, patient and funny. This man didn't even reach my shoulder AND is bald. But to me he is attractive. He's in a relationship.
The first guy is white if that matters, the other one was not. Their looks or what an incel may call shortcomings did not stop them from finding success, because never did I hear either of them complain about the physical department. I'm close with the first guy, he shared secrets, not once did his height become the subject, not once was it an insecurity. I think it is all about how a person carries himself.

[TheFlak38]

Not that a woman would ever admit it. And you're not indicative of a pattern either. The "I care about personality" argument is old and boring. Incels use tons of data to support their claim. Their wiki page is full of it.

[Yucy_Gluttony]

@TheFlak38 The personality value is old because has lasted the test of time. If you're a book with a beautiful cover, but all the pages are blank, then all I can do is just look at the cover and feel it but I can't get to know about it, the story, I can't learn about the book. If my date only has the cover, he bores me.
but the physical appearance does matter, if I don't find you ugly you're good. If like a book, you besides a good cover you also have a good story, you're mine. That is if you like my cover and our stories can mesh together well!

[Asker]

First of all, you're one of kind. If the guy comes to your shoulder. Second my problem is that tall guys are considered superior compared to short guys by almost an overwhelming majority. Everywhere I see I just find we want to be protected, feel secure and what not. Can't short guys not do that? Are we not capable for protecting someone? Are we not masculine enough? Are we treated like humans anymore? This is majority. It's good you don't do that but majority women do care about this and there's statistics and many surveys done and you can't go against this data.

[Yucy_Gluttony]

I wanna answer your question, but! Before I do that! Answer me one question. Have you given up?

[Asker]

No I have not, it's just we're on extreme level difficulty.

[Yucy_Gluttony]

That's good! That is very good! Never give up dating women! Like you see here there are many of us who do not want a guy taller than us! And as long as we are out there, you can't give up!

With that out of the way! You guys are still physically stronger than us so of course you can protect us and of course you can make us feel safe!
I prefer someone shorter because I get to hold all of him where with a tall guy I can't. I also don't like cranking my neck to just look at a tall guy. So as a shorter guy you have an edge over them if you are interested in me.

Girls who automatically say no or have strong preferences when it comes to looks are so superficial. Those who don't treat you like a human are straight up horrible witches! I wonder, if you are a tall guy would you not think sometimes that she only likes you for your height? Wouldn't that make you feel empty inside?

[Asker]

I don't have problem with anyone's preference my only problem is with requirements. There's so much more in life I believe. I just feel like just not dating someone because of his height which is basically an uncontrollable feels like little shallow. I know women want a masculine guy but I just feel just tallness of someone shouldn't contribute that much in masculinity.

I'm ready to be a dominant, I go to gym, I give efforts building my physique and put in all that hardwork. But even after that hard work if a women still doesn't care and still goes with the tall guy even though he is lazy, it just feels pretty stupid and shallow. Besides it's everyone's preference and strongly believe in a democracy.

I just wanted to make people realise how bad we feel when someone puts so much importance on a thing which is literally given by birth and can't attain.

That being said you're an angel sent by heaven. But if you're saying that to make me feel good. I would say to not do it. No one should force themselves to align their preference to others. If you really mean what you said then you're very kind. But that's rare these days. If girls like you existed more in this world I'd never be alone in my life.

[TheFlak38]

"Never give up dating women! " what basically say here is "don't you dare give up providing attention and free meals to women! Don't you fucking dare! Women live off of the oxygen and energy of men. It doesn't matter if you don't get laid. You must keep wasting your time dating while the same women you're dating are doing some alpha fucks once the date is over."
Dating and relationships are things of the past. Men get literally nothing out of it. It's all about serving your vagina.

[Yucy_Gluttony]

If that other guy is lazy that relationship won't last, I go for the pretty book with the story. The guys I am attracted to have three things in common. They are healthy, have a cute face and are fun to be around with. That is all
'But if you're saying that to make me feel good.' Do you think I am just saying these things?

[Yucy_Gluttony]

With Flak's response, you can see why I asked 'Have you given up?' It is either going to be a cry for help and find a solution or just going on about how hopeless it all is, bringing themselves down.

[TheFlak38]

You dumb bitch. You don't realise that the sexual marketplace is rigged in your favour due to the fact that you're the one with a vagina. Any man who must struggle to get a woman is playing a rigged game and rigged games cannot be won. You will never understand this because you will never have to struggle. You have the easiest life in the universe with an entire system serving your vagina every second with your social media and your tinder and your instagram and all these other apps elevating your vagina to the most astronomical heights. All you're doing here is trying to keep a man in the plantation like a good slave for women just because you cannot get enough attention. You don't care about the asker. You care only about yourself and the female collective.

[Yucy_Gluttony]

@TheFlak38 Swearing? Well if there is someone who can help me realize how rigged it all is I will hear it from the one who asked this, for you lack the ability to stay cool in a simple dicussion such as this. Unless you calm down and show some respect, I won't be hearing it from you.

[Asker]

@Yucy_Gluttony I fulfill all those requirements but still I feel pretty sad that the fact I'm short

[Yucy_Gluttony]

That will be an bridge you have to cross on your own. The self acceptance, not comparing yourself with others. If you do not love yourself, it does not matter how many women have dated or are into short men. Once you learn to not get trapped by the chains of this insecurity, like my short guy friends, you will be looking at a brighter future, I can tell you that much!

[Asker]

Thank you! Girls like you are the reason why I don't generalise everyone.

[Yucy_Gluttony]

Happy to help!

[hi_it_is_me123]

Can virgin men stop calling themself for fuck sake incels. Do i prefere incel for prefering a virgin or man with a low bodycount?

[hi_it_is_me123]

My experience with incels that they support rape, womanhate. One asked me why women complain about rape since it is just 'sex' for him

[hi_it_is_me123]

I also know thst men have it harder when it comes to dating.

[Asker]

Well I'm not in that category.

[hi_it_is_me123]

In my culture people wait till marriage. So by this logic they are all marrying incels

[Asker]

Are you indian?

[hi_it_is_me123]

No. Turkish

[Asker]

Oh, it's the same but I don't like the culture here.