Do not try to justify this mgtow/ redpill bullshit. I watched ton of redpill youtube videos, and waste my time on it for nothing. I seriously thought they are nice logical people that fight for their rights. In theory it may make sense, in the real world you can't just go mgtow but also talk about women 24/7 in a offensive way but also expect from people to respect it. I seriously was shocked and it just made me hate myself for being a woman but at that time i was 18-19. I was obsessed with these videos because i could not understand why they hate women so much but i just end up hating myself for being a woman. If a woman talk like these redpill/mgtow incels about men she would be stoned online. You can watch big mgtow youtube channels like colltaine, thinkbeforeyousleep etc. to get my point. If you justify them, then justify feminazis too. What i realize is that many of them start liking islam which annoyed me when i was a muslim but now i understand why they like it. I can't stand it when people say feminists and incels are the same time but also fully ignore that ton of incels support mgtow aka part of it.
Mgtow/redpills ain't incels ( why do ton of incels support it then?)
I dont support none of them
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It is just suprising to me that western incels suddenly like islam. I am not saying that muslim incels like christian, atheist incels dont exist. It is just weird when western non muslim incels suddenly like islam
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Lool i get insulted, attacked etc out of nowhere by a middle age triggered retarded mental ill boomer but after defending myself, i get blocked. Hahah. I really dont get these idiots. Whatever thank you for your replies. I really appreciate your replies. Many of you give good replies. I wish i could give to almost all of you a MHO
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This is an old question. I try to be inactive and this question does not represent my current thoughts. I wish i could delete my whole Internet history due to such questions/posts
Why do some people hate feminazis but dont say anything about mgtow or redpill incels? What do you think about many mgtows/repills who likes islam?
I think both movements are mentioned at least somewhere. The problem is rather that people nowadays live in bubbles that are closed by social media and they tend to get the news they want. Meaning if you keep searching google for incels, they´ll offer you videos that others that also researched about incels watched on Youtube. So social media takes its part in this problem. I don´t blame I just think that social media and I include GaG in that present us topics that they think we´ll be interested while leaving out everything else.
As with any group u will always have pockets of extreme views shared with whats uploaded to the net you can find plenty of vids or sources backing up or justifying nearly any point u have or want to have when someone dislikes a group there focus tends to be on that group alone I. e mgtow hating feminists and vice versa u just get 1 side fighting the other with any means necessary
You may be right but the biggest mgtow channels on youtube prove many points of mine. Feminist youtube channels get spammed by mgtows. They are feminist youtubers but they dont openly say they are feminists to avoid mgtows etc. It just confuses when people say feminists and incels are the same but also ignore redpill/mgtow incels. Incels are part of these mgtow redpill groups. When you look up ton of screenshot of former reddit incel communities you will notice that they have so many familiar ideas with mgtows. I am not a feminist but modern feminism has many problems
I dont know how it is today but whenever i searched feminism on youtube, i realized every video with feminist content got spammed by mgtows. Maybe it changed today
I agree the issue is incels although believe in most or a lot of what the redpill/mgtow say they are a splinter group as they also have beliefs that the former groups don't believe also I have seen the comments sections but its like I said both groups like to dog eachother and whilst ill say YouTube comments are bad twitter is a fucking cesspit where it ups the stupid with both groups throwing mud
I think the reasons guys are more volatile on YouTube as the red pill and mgtow are still relatively a new movement compared to feminism so u have a lot of people that feed into it and are angry that they have felt unheard so as soon as they find information they like and can meld with they will dog pile with other like minded guys on people they believe are against them or criticising there movement caveman mentality
Oh thank you for your replies. I understand it better. I can agree. I also agree with your opinion about twitter. Twitter is very biased against conservatives, etc which is also not good. I lean to the left but i dont like it when they ban conservatives but dont ban radical liberals.
Yeah im pretty much the same a massive issue has now happened where differnt platforms house differnt ways of thinking and making eco bubbles to only there way of thinking which further radicalises people
MGTOW is logical. MGTOW is freedom. It's fine if you don't like it. It's not for you. It's for men.
Sure we can go MGTOW and talk about women, and just because some truths are uncomfortable, it doesn't mean that they are "offensive."
MGTOW is not about hating women, and it certainly isn't about encouraging women to hate themselves. However, you could've had a learning opportunity. Not knowing what you saw/heard, I can't go further than this. MGTOW is not about hating women. Yes, some do reach that point, and I would argue that most of those that do so eventually grow out of it. Have you ever heard of the Kubler-Ross grieving cycle? One of the earlier stages of it is anger/rage, and most of the MGTOW that "outsiders" like you see are at that point. It's simply a stage of the journey, one that is (believe it or not) part of human nature.
Um, no she wouldn't. She'd be called a feminist, and would be heralded as a hero for women's rights. Laura Bates is a great example of this. That type of rhetoric from women is defended online. Most anti-male critiquing nowadays includes "incels" as one of the most common expressions.
To say we "like" Islam is a misunderstanding. SOME of us sort-of agree with the meme "Islam is right about women," but that doesn't necessarily mean we like Islam. At most, we tend to agree with Islam on certain points.
Finally, in your poll you made it clear that you believe that MGTOW = incels. Well, here's an education for you. Most MGTOW began embracing this philosophy after being divorced (often multiple times), meaning that they have been celibate before. Many MGTOW will also go out and have sex with women but not have serious relationships with them. That alone proves you are wrong to conflate the two. Also, most incels still try to get laid and/or married. Personally, I believe that many (if not most) men who are simps are also incels. Now, it is true that some incels will find and "follow" MGTOW, but if they are doing so because they are just tired of the chase, then they've missed the point and I hope that they realize what the MGTOW philosophy actually is. MGTOW and incels are not the same thing, but it is possible for individuals to kinda-technically be both.
Why are you replying a stone age question? I may change mind or not. Unfortunately i can't delete my old questions. How do you even find my old question?
What do you mean by "stone age" question. Perhaps it's because I'm new here, but I do not see how "old" this post is. I also don't see how that is relevant. I've had people respond to YouTube comments that were several years old.
As for how, that's easy. I typed MGTOW in the search box and scrolled down. This was just one of many posts I read. I don't think your account being private is relevant, but again, that may be due to me being new here and not knowing much about how this site works.
Redpill and MGTOW can sometimes coincide but are not the same thing. And women can also be redpilled. I dont hate redpill in general but I dont like many of the toxic people it attracts. MGTOW on it's own is also not bad IF that person has had a lot of trauma done to them by women. That's their life experience and they know better than me if they can afford to put themselves out there again and be vulnerable. MGTOWS that trash women are different from the ones who just choose to quietly live under the radar to find peace and harmony. I respect the monks a lot for doing what they do. Blackpillers, Feminazis, and the toxic folks that do also embrace these philosophies I dont hate them but I do not associate with them or talk to them either. I dont like treating people I never met like shit just over tiktok level generalizations... pathetic.
Its cause MGTOW is literally going their own way with out making a giant stink about it. Feminazi's on the other hand are like dealing with a customer who explosive diarrhea's the entire front lobby front door and then proceed to walk out while not giving a $h1t about the mess they just left. The worst idea ever on a date in the current dating climate is to start a date by saying your a feminist. Most guys will probably ditch a 50 and bolt as fast as they can.
Mgtow incels dont go their own way. They are like cult. Attack every feminist on youtube to the point feminist youtubers dont openly say they are feminists. Feminists dont have a legal power over laws. The so called antiman laws such as divorce laws existed before feminism
Women could not divorce in the past and men who divorce their women get forced to give half of their asset, etc. So when women were allowed to divorce, these laws about alimony, giving half of man's assets did not change so far i know
Its more so explain the hard truth why a feminist isn't gonna find a man who's gonna stay. No man who is looking long term is looking for the quote femanist/femanazi/boss bitch. Men want cohesive and communicative. No man is gonna wanna come back to a combative girl. There is a tremendous difference from pump and dump vs what a man is gonna consider queen quality.
Feminists and incels aren't only both bad, they are almost a mirror to each other if incels had the social power feminists had.
MGTOW and men's rights (redpill means a lot of shit) are ok, though. The whole point of MGTOW is walking out and the whole consequence of MGTOW is walking out, I wish that were feminists.
A huge amount of incels are part of mgtows. Like it or not. You can look up ton of screenshots from former reddit incel communities. Is it really coincidence that reddit incels and mgtows have similar views? No.
Some mgtows say that incels hide themself behind mgtows but why can't they use this logic on feminists. By this logic we can say that feminazis hide behind feminism too. Both makes sense but when you remove incels from mgtows, you only would find really tiny amount of real mgtows. This means big mgtow channels would not be big, it would be irrelevant since it only get very few views. Ignoring a huge amount of incels among mgtows will only harm real mgtows. Reddit had a incel community of 50, 000 members. These people are part of mgtows now.
I personally dont have anything against 'real' mgtows, feminists etc but toxic feminists, mgtows etc whose voice you hear more via media or youtube are harmful. Being incel does not mean you are automatically a virgin. I have met incel who call themself incels because they can't find women who are romantically/sexually interested in them -i dont know how truth this is. Loosing your virginity is easy. Black pill? What do you mean? I have heard about it but what exactly you mean that incels are ousted due to it
And toxicity can exist in any ideology, since moral-leaches are a thing.
And as long as it doesn't involve violence or incitation of violence, I can deal pretty well with abrasiveness.
I watch most popular MGTOW and feminist channels. With some regularity, just to see what they are saying.
With MGTOW I have one worry, them trying to force other men into adhering, with fortunately ain't much of a worry since most are against that, much to the contrary, most of them are against incels joining, since in their view, you aren't MGTOW if walking away isn't your choice. I can't say the same from the most popular feminist channels, it's hard to find a major feminist channel that isn't outright racist, even lindsey can't save herself. Kat black is not only racist, she argues for rape with state proxy, along with her girlfriend.
Feminist youtube channels "dont exist" anymore thanks to mgtow incels aka spammers No feminist youtuber openly say that they are feminist to avoid spams from mgtows. They dont add feminist tags or titles such as "#feminism" etc. I dont how it is now but when i search feminism on youtube and the first videos about topics feminism get spammed by mgtows aka people who call themself mgtow.
I dont how it is now but when i searched feminism on youtube few years ago, the first videos about feminism got spammed by mgtows aka people who call themself mgtow*** how are they against incels joining mgtows. They popular mgtow youtubers just trashtalk women and have same views as incels from reddit
I also realize mgtows on youtube tend to be very conservative, traditional etc and are mad that they dont find hot young traditional women and so hate on so called modern women for not being young traditional girl etc. Even if you are traditional and conservative woman, you are still not desirable if you are not young. I only like colltaine-mgtow youtuber. At least he is against both liberal and conservatives. He hates both modern and conservatives women hahsha
MGTOWs in general aren't conservatives, they tend to call conservative men "tradcuck blue pill men". They want total legal parity between men and women and will, supposedly, walk away as the rest of us (meaning me, you and everyone else) figure this one out.
There's some sexism there, but nothing like kat black advocating for state proxy rape.
Incels are obsessed with virginity, but that's because most of them are virgins.
MTGOWs there, like most women here are just disgusted by today's dating culture and it's pushing of promiscuity, it's the famous "whore's regret".
Most MGTOW are going to talk a lot about the "cock carousel", but almost none of them, even though talking about their past dating life, like redonkulas, are going to say they were the cock carousel. Most are going to cite being drained in the courts, but it's clear most resent the way they were treated as being "the ride" so to speak. That's true for all of them, like sandman, turd flinging monkey.
Most if not all hate modern dating and marriage because in their mind, it punishes loyalty and rewards disloyalty, it has nothing to do with virginity. There was even a big debate if there was a reason for gay men to be MGTOW.
I think you leftists are the dumbest creatures god ever put on Earth, 5oz of peat moss is more intelligent than the entire global population of leftists.
So you assume my political view? I really dont want to be rude but i can't stand fools who try to attack me and insult me by assuming my beliefs and attack these beliefs but then whine, when they get offended back just because i defend myself from stupid ass cuntservatives. I dont agree with both cuntservatives and libtards. Is it so difficult for you express yourself without attacking anyone like a retarded fool. At 50+ you should do better. There is no different between you and these so called (radical) leftists. Both of you get easily triggered, insult people out of nowhere and attack people for their beliefs, views etc.
If you are not going to reply to the question, i will delete your rant. By the way liberals do support islam like mgtows/redpill who tend to be conservative 😉
An average feminist has no power over changing laws. The so called antiman divorce laws exist for many decades. Feminism did not creat these laws. Women could not divorce in the past and men who divorce their women get forced to give half of their asset, etc. So when women were allowed to divorce, these laws about alimony, giving half of man's assets did not change so far i know
I'm talking about their movement getting rid of equality, forcing women into high level positions and attacking the jobs of women who they are jealous off (Such as the F1 gridgirls). I am not familiar with Elliot, so feel free to cite an example of what rights of mine he attacked.
Elliot killed people. He is known as the king of incels. Many incels saw him as idol. I have seen many incels that say rape is sex. I would not want to be around these potential rapists. I dont agree with these feminists? How do they attack rights? Do they attack the companies from grid girls? They are also subgroups among feminists. Some feminists support sex work or work of gridgirls for example and some are radically against such jobs
Mgtow teaches young men how to deal with women. Most young men see their own relatives lose everything in a divorce and that alone is enough to make them go MGTOW.
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