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Great question mate. I believe it's because of the value system the progressive left has adopted which is based on how oppressed a group of people is. They believe in a hierarchy of oppression and value the most oppressed people in that group. It usually goes as follows women, minorities, lgbt and then finally Islamists. It's like feminists/sjws want to make an alliance with every single person who is oppressed slightly more than the average person because when it comes down to it every one is oppressed is several different ways, which is why this ideology has become paradoxal.
But how can the most extreme feminists in the West openly defend every cruel aspect of Islam the ideology and culture not just the religion? it's mind boggling to me that the women who scream about patriarchy are actively defending one of the most patriarchal and oppressive societies that has ever existed.
Because according to the feminist's mind, misogyny and rape doesn't count if the man is Muslim and so therefore they are the real victims. Feminists just can't get anymore insane, can they?
A feminist supporting Islam is like a Jew supporting the Nazis or a black guy supporting the Ku Klux Klan.
Most feminists who understand what it really must be about, if they take it to its logical conclusion, will actually hate Islam because Islam (and/or the cultural norms surrounding islam, it's all part and parcel of the same phenomenon in the end) subjugates women.
I know some college educated muslim women who say 'oh actually it's my choice to wear the hijab/dress conservatively... I'm a feminist, I think it's empowering', but that's just paradoxical. How can you claim that something (i. e. wearing a hijab) is a free 'choice' when you've been conditioned with a set of ideals suggesting that you "should" wear it to be "close to Allah"? You would never have entertained that choice otherwise.
And the white/non-religious women who convert to Islam? They are just either seeking attention or are troubled and looked for a 'meaning' in life. Probably the former, in most cases...
It's not that we love Islam. Islam can be practiced many ways, and many of us find the restrictions on women, the traditions of female genital mutilation, the traditions that deny women a worldly education - to be abhorrent. But these are not practiced by every Muslim.
But many of us also recognize that the freedom to practice one's faith is important, and that we do not need to immediately discount a person because he or she practices a religion that is different from ours.
Because clearly they are not feminists (despite thinking they are) they're absolutely delusional as to what feminism actually is and are just confused about people and life in general (like many feminists out there in the west).
This is just so sick and dumb. Smh.
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Feminists, like any diverse group, hold a variety of opinions and perspectives, and their views on Islam can differ significantly. It's important to avoid making broad generalizations about feminists and their relationship with Islam. However, there are a few reasons some feminists may find common ground or express support for aspects of Islam:
1. **Shared Social Justice Goals:** Both feminism and Islam advocate for social justice and equality. Feminists who are supportive of certain Islamic principles may see overlap in their goals of challenging patriarchal norms and promoting gender equity.
2. **Diverse Feminist Views:** Feminism is not a monolithic movement; it encompasses a wide range of perspectives. Some feminists might appreciate elements within Islam that emphasize social justice, women's rights, and empowerment.
3. **Challenging Stereotypes:** Some feminists might be interested in challenging stereotypes and misconceptions about Islam, especially those perpetuated by Islamophobia. They may see value in understanding the diversity of Muslim women's experiences.
4. **Women's Agency within Islam:** Some feminists may recognize that many Muslim women actively choose to practice their faith and find empowerment within its teachings. They may emphasize the importance of respecting women's agency in their choices.
5. **Solidarity with Marginalized Groups:** Feminists often advocate for marginalized groups, including those affected by religious discrimination. They might stand in solidarity with Muslim women who face discrimination due to their faith.
6. **Cultural and Religious Diversity:** Feminism acknowledges the importance of respecting diverse cultures and religious practices. Some feminists appreciate the diversity within Islam and advocate for the rights of Muslim women without imposing their own beliefs.
7. **Intersectionality:** Many feminists embrace intersectionality, which recognizes that individuals may face multiple forms of oppression simultaneously. Some feminists may see the intersection of gender, religion, and ethnicity in the experiences of Muslim women. (islamguide. eu)
It's important to note that feminism is not a monolithic perspective, and different feminists may have differing views on Islam based on their personal experiences, beliefs, and understanding of the religion. When discussing feminism, Islam, or any topic, it's essential to approach the subject with nuance and respect for diverse viewpoints.
If you wanna trust media go ahead but I’m all actuality Islam protects women second how are you gonna base all of Islam on that like that’s like saying oh well the people who were slave owners are racist so that must mean all white people are racist too like that’s such a dumbfounded idea second if someone is saying oh it’s ok if he rapes me…is that rape cuz that sounds like they find it to be very conventual but I could be wrong but please don’t group up Muslims because I’m muslim and ik islam well enough that all the things shown on television is haram everything that is negative that these radicals are doing and these “Islamic” countries (which is not the case they just have a high Muslim population compared to other country cuz that’s like calling American a Christian country which is far from true with all the different religions within it) are doing like let’s seriously think her yes a group of many small group of many that do something bad and then you say everyone as a stereotype is that not islamaphobia are we not human…
Well it must be to do with the fact that Islam gave women their RIGHTS before Western feminism did!
Islam was the first religion and civilisation to give women the RIGHTS to work, earn money themselves, choose to work/not to work, be financially independent, choose her husband as her own free will, give her inheritance money, to ask anything from her husband before the marriage, to ask money from her husband as a dowry, to have an education, etc.
If you look at true Islam and read the Qu'ran you will realise like these other feminists, that Islam gives women their rights and DOES NOT subjugate or oppress the woman at all!
well for muslim woman who are feminists, they are brainwashed into believing islam is a very feminist religion. In actual fact no religion is feminist religion but islam is more intolerant against woman. Most of these feminist muslim woman or converted muslim do not live in middle eastern or muslim majority country, they live in the west. Living in the west has given them the right to cherry pick stuff from islam and show the media they have equal rights as a muslim man.
Also non-muslim feminist supporting islam who are from the west thinks that muslims are a minority and they are treated unequally; just like how they view women are treated unequally. So therefore, they support each other. If they get to live in afghanistan which is following pure sharia law they will lose their minds.
I've often wondered the same thing, as many of the tenants of Islam--especially the absolutely horrific treatment of women-- run directly contrary to the tenants of feminism.
Cognitive dissonance. They know deep down that all their feminist rhetoric is bullshit and by consciously trying to deny it their natural needs push their desires to the opposite extreme. Similar to all the feminists being into rape fantasies and all that jizz.
the simple answer is if they can't beat them join them and there against the American government and so are feminist who want America to be more female oriented. so it is that whole enemy of my enemy is my freind idea. they dont care how many women are raped or killed as long as they have a strong base to stand on to get there views forced across.
Ignorance!
I'm a feminist (not the toxic type and not the radical type), I believe in equality not superiority. So according to me, islam is a religion which is everything against feminism.
According to Islam, women are objects that can be used when men wants to satisfy their lust. Its Prophet married a 6 year old girl, yet Muslims all around the world says that islam gives right to women and that it respects women, what right, what respect? The Prophet had many sex slaves, infact he even talks about sex slaves in the quran. The women in Saudi Arabia had to have a long fight just to get the right to drive a damn car. The pseudo feminists who loves islam aren't feminists.
There are no good reasons. Islam is probably the most oppressive belief system in the world for women. Unsurprisingly, the word Islam actually means "submission"
ok, so a few things.
not having Islamophobia does not make someone "love" something, "SOOO" much. that's like saying because i'm not scared of heights, i absolutely love heights. it's pretty dumb reasoning.
second, feminism itself is interpreted in different ways (i'm not a feminist, but i have done my research) and not every feminist loves Islam.
lastly, you could say that Americans love Christianity because we have had only Christian holidays off from school for the longest time, and we learned Christian songs a lot in school.
but i don't see you saying that, so here's my final remark:
Seriously, I just don't get it. Why are some people SOOO ignorant?
lol but actually though- educate yourself, my dear
I am Muslim but not a feminist.
I absolutely hate feminism.
They like the idea of Modern Islam.
and Modern Islam is not the Real Islam.
Neither is Hatred of ISIS.
Islam does not oppress women
but Islam also does not allow women to rule over Men.
If this makes any sense.
because Modern Islam lets women rule over Men.
Today's feminists are intersectional leftists. So while it seems paradoxical (and it is) that they would defend Islam because of how girls and women are treated under Sharia, they are intersectionalists first and foremost. Which means they see Muslims as oppressed "people of color" who have victim cred. And having victim cred is everything to an intersectionalist. It's not logical but then these people are not logical.
A true feminist hates a man that wants her to take 2nd place in a relationship and have her man control her. Think about it, does that sound like the Muslim way of doing things. Common sense and logic tell you that no, it doesn't.
Everyone knows feminists don't care about women, they only care about their agenda.
Something that I also wonder myself considering Islamic ideals are everything that feminists claim to be against. Makes no sense. You can't have Islam and gender equality at the same time.
This is deliciously funny. It is so absurd but they are brainwashed to accept different behavior from different groups. Let them be raped and killed. Eventually, slowly, they might change their minds and if they don't then Darwin
i wouldn't say femenists. i would say some feminits. dont know the percentage. kinda confused on this one.
If we are playing a game where we go and find snippets all over the planet to suit our religion bashing narrative, then 2 can play this game. How many Church Priests and little boy stories should I show? 5, 10, 500?
Like Dr. Phil's father used to say "Some women are stupid".
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