Don't you think it's sad that incels will blame everyone but themselves for their issues?

Question

I don't know how you being undesirable is a me issue. Quit your bitching and moaning and get therapy.

CalmUntilAbused · Accepted Answer

Well... To begin with, You're far oversimplifying the matter. "Incels" are literally the "involutarily celibate". That's an incredibly wide category of people, including the victims of friendzones and those who've yet to begin their descent into darkness, at this point in time only being aware of the fact that women do not find them attractive.

Now, even the latter do not always go down the path of vengeance. Quite a lot of them get their self-confidence absolutely ruined and go on to become the reason for the numbers in the alarmingly high male suicide statistics. The ones going down the path of vengeance are rather scarce. If I were to make a analogy that feels close to my recent interest in Japanese folk tales, those men can be considered a kind of collective gashadokuro, not dead, but not exactly alive, either, a crowd turned insane by both their own anger and the pain of those who went down the suicide path. Now that is definitely more sad than horrifying, but it's still not about the "incels" (definitely not the "incels" in general) blaming everyone but themselves for their problems. The point is, most people, both men and women, are average. That's just how statistics and the Gaussian distribution work, no matter how high the scores are, there will always be an average, more or less representative of most specimens in the reviewed population. However, while average women are still considered attractive by men, average men are pretty much invisible to women. If they were even perceived in the first place, they would be found "okay", so it's not like there's any real problem with "undesirability" in the first place. However, with more and more women aiming for the top 10% of men regarding attractiveness (for reasons most of them are not even aware of, and therefore not guilty of), who are not even realistically attainable for them, the average men are left out. That gives birth to a massive disproportion on a societal scale, with the majority of men never able to experience a close relationship with a woman - and it's not their fault at all to have been born average. It might be their fault if they made themselves below average, but even if they try to become more attractive, all they can achieve is raising the average, while said average stays invisible for women. While it's not exactly the fault of most women either (though there are some who are actively bringing average men down), there is no way any man in this group can escape this limbo without a single woman taking interest in him. And as the suicide rate among them skyrocket, so does the frustration of those dedicated to clinging to their lives, ultimately turning some of them into vengeful madmen who hardly even remember humans they used to be anymore. I don't know whether this phenomenon is a "You issue", but given Your extremely nonchalant attitude towards actual human suffering, it's likely You actually are one a conscious part of the problem.

By the way, are You one of those who believe in therapy? Pray tell me what kind of therapy is available for being physically unattractive, if I were to go with Your rather derogatory suggestion that the men complaining about being involuntarily celibate are indeed undesirable? Just don't even get started with plastic surgery, it's far too expensive for most people - and it still won't solve things like height issues.

Maybe_Maybe_not · Accepted Answer

"will blame everyone but themselves" "Quit your bitching and moaning and get therapy" Totally loose-loose scenario you propose I think 😅 When they are aware  (but unable to self-balance) that it is a personal issue, then your second statement about quitting bitching pushes the wrong trigger button inducing more self-hatred which, in turn, triggers more hate directed at the world, including you. When they are not aware , then it also pushes the wrong trigger button inducing more self-hatred which, in turn, triggers more hate directed at the world, including you. Lastly, pushing therapy for others as a mean for you to feel safer/better is detrimental to the concept of therapy. But yes,  I know that your point is about venting,  about an issue you have with some specific people. I have this issue with the very same people. And I am also unable to find, most of the time, any stance that is not involving any rejection, that is, a stance not triggering what I don't want to trigger. Sighs.

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

Replace the word "incel," with literally any other group on earth that blames all their problems on every other person but can't see the problems within their own group---and I have a problem with them. Life is complicated. People get hurt. It is, however, rare that the whole entire world is just against you and you can do nothing about it. For example, I've never had a problem with someone saying, "my last 3 relationships were crap, and I'm not up for dating anyone anymore." Okay, cool, but when it's, "my last 3 relationships were crap so therefore I can't get a job, I can't ever find love again, all women are evil and set to destroy the entirety of mankind, and that's why I live at home with my parents and can't find success in life...." cry me a river. How many billions of people are there on earth and somehow just three equates to you've met and know how all of everyone thinks and acts. If you want to talk about dating issues, you must accept that it's a two way street. You as a man or you as a woman are no alone in how that world can possibly screw you over, but failing to recognize that it's not all about you and you're not the only one with problems, and I'm out. If you think breaking up is why you can't find a job or move on in life. I'm out. If you're pointing the finger at everyone else. I'm out. It's not mature, it's not reality in the slightest.

mandyfire98 · Accepted Answer

I stopped looking at incels like human beings when they started being ultra hateful towards women. It's one thing to be a virgin but it's a completely different thing to be a person who seethes and loathes all women, who spouts nothing but redpill nonsense daily and obsessively scours the internet daily looking for anti-women propaganda nonstop.

Used to be Incel just meant a virgin.
Now, we all know that's not the case.
It's evolved into men that hate women and resent us. To the point they are against women having any choices or rights at all. To the point where there have been multiple mass killings by incels over the years because of the rhetoric they spew to one another.

So here's some oral sex for them... Fuck incels.

Virgins are still cool. Misogyny is not however.

ManOnFire · Answer

Fellas, don't take the bait. She is probably upset because a guy said something she didn't like, so she wants to distract from it by blaming them and making it as if they are the problem. You guys should be used to these tricks by now.

LaFemmeFatale_1 · Answer

I don’t waste my time thinking about them…

normalice · Answer

It is not sad, it's just natural human narcissism and right-wing media nurturing the childish inclination to be self absorbed and self indulgent by calling it self reliance. I suppose it is a little sad to see the potential lost but it's not like they ever knew they had it. Maybe by looking around to see others living up to some greater potential, but right wing media usually manages to head that off with a narrative that it was all DEI, government handouts, and woke - never blame the countless hours wasted rotting the brain by the unmitigated absorption of maximum entertainment in the form of video games, shows, and right wing commentary.

Anonymous · Answer

Don't you think it's sad that incels will blame everyone but themselves for their issues?

kinda like feminists blaming everyone else for their issues

blaming fuckboys for using them for sex

blaming good men for rejecting them

blaming cops for not taking their false rape accusations seriously

blaming capitalism for why their life sucks and they have all this debt

blaming conservative women for not being a part of their hive mind

blaming Trump for their own Trump Derangement Syndrome

mobiusforniner · Answer

It comes down to an inability to self reflect and take personal ownership of one’s future. That is not an attractive behavior in any human being, boy or girl; because it screams “I’m an immature toddler”. And no adult likes to date an immature toddler.

SugarSugarplum · Answer

The word "incel" is a slur, but the real emotional dysfunction is that most girls, not matter how mid, think they are 10's and can score a perfect husband.

So I refuse to use a slur towards men who through no fault of their own fall prey to female delusions.

Alwayreckles93 · Answer

Especially millennial MOMMA BOY they cry boohoo why I can't get a girlfriend? They do everything mommy says. Later complain why Generation X men are dating millennial woman well maybe generation X men know what they want in life and are mature capable of making their own choices and not asking mommy for permission. We like like independent men.

DextroShade · Answer

Incels are created by hoeflation pricing men out of the sexual marketplace. Our grandfathers could be shorter than 6', work some factory or farm job and still most could get a woman who was a fit, feminine, virgin, who would cook, clean, and raise his kids. Now most women are fat, unfeminine, and ran-through, but all think they deserve a man who 6'+ making six figures. This is no different than telling people who are pissed off they can't afford a house to "get therapy".

msc545 · Answer

They don't need to blame themselves - it isn't their fault that women reject them, other than the fact that if they become wealthy, they would have more success with women. Painful and expensive height surgery and painful expensive plastic facial surgery would also help, but they would need money for those things, so, of course, we are back to money. Big surprise.

JasonBD7 · Answer

They are hypocrites in literally every way.

Like, at least shave your neck hair and wear a t shirt that fits!! lol

Plus they call women shallow then will do the EXACT same thing to a “ugly fat girl” without realizing the irony

Anonymous · Answer

What’s even more sad and sick is the fact that when a girl does become interested, it’s usually someone that looks on the same level of looks as themselves but they see her as less, firmly believing that they deserve someone “better looking”. They’re disgusted by someone looking similar to themselves, and they hate every girl that they do find attractive because they don’t want them. It’s a psychotic gross disorder l.

Still-alive · Answer

Yup very sad. ill be happy to see them all lose their shit when Kamala Harris wins. they won't be able to handle a woman being president.

LOLATYOULMFAO · Answer

Dont you think its sad that, you are punching down at a bunch of people who already have it pretty bad? Its becomes a "you" issue when you treat them this way.

Getting therapy isn't going to make a woman less ugly. Nor is getting therapy going to force you to be a person with compassion.

Anonymous · Answer

"Don't you think it's sad that incels will blame everyone but themselves for their issues?

Yep, just like feminists have been doing for the last decade or more. Incels are just starting to take a page from the feminist playbook of the last 2 decades.

LazerBean · Answer

It is sad when anyone of any gender blames their failure in life on others.

Nikki1989 · Answer

100%. It is always someone else's fault.

DerekC321 · Answer

Yes, they're angry, spiteful, hateful people. They blame women as if every one is wrong about them? They can't handle the truth about themselves

NathanDavis · Answer

that is often the trap... of self-hatred  these just take to an extreme of extremes, more than sad... I would call it very unfortunate

Friendlybro79 · Answer

I think it's sad if they really feel they're undesirable but once they cross into it's everyone else's fault, I agree, get therapy.

Gwendoline · Answer

They are usually just young boys who are late bloomers. Maybe don't be so hard on them.

ChicoFromThe305 · Answer

Maybe they are trying to get a therapist but the therapist they want is telling them to quit their moaning and whining 😂

Hispanic-Cool-Guy · Answer

I don't think it's sad. Incels typically at least most of them from I have seen are scummy mostly online individuals with an extremely dry ugly personality.

Ladsin2 · Answer

I think it's sad when anyone blames mysterious systems out in the ether for their failures in life. There's certainly a lot of that going around.

Anonymous · Answer

yeah it's really pathetic. reminds me of lots of women i know who blame everything on men, and would rather encounter a bear than a random man because of their own issues. 😭

jojouzumaki · Answer

I don’t think about it. I just hope they have been getting the help they needed as soonest.

Anonymous · Answer

Women get mad when incels point out their lies to them. Women will date a former rapist if he's hot enough but then say incels are incels cause they're mysogynists lol

Anonymous · Answer

And that's why they're incels, they don't accept responsibility, showcasing their immaturity.

Vegasrunner · Answer

So you're saying men that have a lot of women have more value?

LiamJHayden · Answer

Most people have a tendency to blame others.

ItsaMeMaik · Answer

yeah, literally nobody else can do anything about it.

DexWest · Answer

Would you say the same thing to the women who post, where are all the good men at?

JesseP1nk · Answer

Is not what women do also? - blame others for their issues :D

EnjoytheDay777 · Answer

You're right about the therapy (and rest, too)

Anonymous · Answer

No I don’t. If it doesn’t pertain to me i don’t think about it.

Anonymous · Answer

I can't say I burn a lot of calories thinking about incels.

Abbycado · Answer

Don’t think about them, but yes.

Radiate143 · Answer

I don't think about incels at all.

Aiko_E_Lara · Answer

Yeah it's sad like feminists do

RedInnocent69 · Answer

Yeah, but not just incels.

verified · Answer

I don't waste energy thinking of that

periodictaco · Answer

Yeah

MrGSpotHer · Answer

Lol 😂

eagle1951 · Answer

Amen

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