Yes, indeed they are. A good portion of incels are actually average or even decent looking guys who are some combination of being out of shape, having awkward hair/beard styles, wear unflattering clothes, have poor grooming habits, etc. Personality wise they often lack self esteem or confidence. They also tend to lack confidence, self esteem social skills, often tend to lead unattractive lifestyles (NEET, have a lot of bad habits, don't do anything that's remotely interesting), but the biggest problem is their attitude.
I used to be a much less attractive guy, I'd say I looked something like Ernie from Sesame Street. I could have easily fallen into inceldom, but I refused to accept that label and resign myself to it because I knew I wouldn't find any support or advice on how to improve my situation, all it would have done is just make it worse. Instead I lost weight and got in, I stepped up my grooming, I changed up my style, I got rid of more than half my entire wardrobe and replaced it with more flattering and interesting clothes, most importantly I put myself out there and through much trial and error I got to where I wanted to be.
It's much easier said than done, improving oneself and becoming better is not an easy task at all and there will be times where you just want to give up. As they say, if you don't struggle you don't improve.
(Guy in the pic is not me, just a very good example of how much difference a better haircut and beard can do for a man).
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There will always be people out there who would rather blame others then actually improve themselves. It's mostly laziness. Big dogs eat... crying little puppies stay on the porch.
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Their madness and the hell they live in is self-inflicted.I vote B , but not because i believe its womans fault , but only because its not their (the incels) fault , if someone born with a disability its not their fault , I don't know maybe its gods fault maybe its the parents fault that they ingore bad genetic in mating , i understand the pain of incels and i know its not their fault , u have right to be confused or even angry , nature is going to eliminate you for some reason , i know girls have standards that automatically remove bad genes and don't let them pass in the future , girls do the right things, and i only blame guys. yeh Guys With Good Gene aka (GWGG) Gwggs it's you that don't have standard and go and make a short girl pregnant and make her a mother , you know what would happen if that woman has son? There is 50% chance that your son inherent her bad gene Yeh there is 25% chance that you have an incel son who is going to suffer And be careful , the standards of not being a incel is getting higher every generationIs that what you want mr gwgg? So please for the sake of your own future son , when you think of standards , think about your future son too , thats allBest of luck , aliiek
Yes. You can always get a prostitute, not that I agree with it if you don't want to be a virgin anymore. Nobody cares. Better to be like me celibate by choice because you have morals such as no sex before marriage, instead of complaining how you can't get sex, yet nobody owes you sex and sex is readily available as porn is. Honestly.
Neither.
I don't think their attitudes are invalid.
Even if women are awful, that doesn't matter, because focusing on other people's bullshit generally doesn't help.
Finally, they are also thrown to the wolves and we insist they fend for themselves when we don't do that with other people. Incels aren't the only group but they're one of the kinds of people we feel perfectly comfortable disregarding, it's perverse. We throw them to the wolves not out of we have any interest in them solving their own problems, rather it's because you'd rather they simply disappear. And if they survive then cool.
It's interesting that people who often don't have their own shit in order will tell incels to just fix their own life. It's as if being even sparsely sexually active has a different level of importance. And if it holds such weight, it's curious that incels are disparaged rather than helped as we help other people having a rough time in life.A lot of people are rather unfortunate looking and don’t have the ability to socialize the way everyone else does. Can they make efforts to improve their situation? Sure, but I think it’s only logical to understand that they have a big disadvantage in life in comparison to most.
Neither poll option is what I believe.
Both sides are at fault to an extent.
Incels have horrible attitudes towards women. Women aren't causers of all your problems.
Yet some women really do give the entire gender a bad name.
Just like some women forsake men because they were mistreated by them incels do the same.
I'm no incel and don't support the cause but I can understand why they exist.
You'd get bitter if no one ever loved you and the only ones to get close to you use you.
When you see women getting loved for their flaws such as weight and body shape yet many women would turn you down for being short or timid you feel hopeless and then anger.
It no reason to hate all women but I hope people can see both sides so their is no hate going to either side.If there was a third choice that said "men and women are both culpable for the existence of incels" I'd chose that one instead. I don't think the problem is "women just need to weaken their standards and spread their legs" or "incels are a bunch of spineless wimps who need to stop blaming others and get their shit together". There's more to it than that but I currently don't have time to go into more detail. I'll explain more on this later (if I can remember to do it lol).
There's a guy on GaG right now who goes on about being a virgin, but he only wants an 'attractive' woman, not a 'fat ugly woman', because that will make him look like a loser, or something like that. Ultimately, he ends up BEING the loser.
I did not know I had a name :) but yes I agree with you, we just did not take the right steps that we needed to make a relationship happen, my fault was I watched to many romantic movies and listened to too many of my Christian friends that said just wait for it to happen and it will happen when you least expect it, bs I have been waiting for 20 years for that to happen...
I thin that Incels are their own worst enemy. Everything I have read about them suggests not only that they think that they are sad and pathetic losers who can't get girls no matter what they do, but also that they have a warped sense of entitlement to sex and women and in this regard are not above the use of violence.
Forcing love never works."Im such a nice guy! Why dont those dumb, worthless, chad chasing, cock sluts want a gentleman like me?"
Men with bad attitudes do push women away. Life is too short to be miserable (and we're miserable when we have to put up with people's bad attitude. I wish there was a test we'd have to take (and we'd have to be honest) before entering a relationship. The next best thing I found is to learn about people's subtle behavior and what it indicates. I learned what to look for by reading "Are Women The Stronger Sex?" It was free to download from online book sites and it became a valuable tool I refer to often.
Yeah and from what I've seen most of these guys don't have jobs, aren't going to school, and spend a lot of time just complaining with other incels.
Of course not all of them are like this cause there are guys that stop being an incel. But I'd say a good amount of them just needs to work on themselves first.Here's the problem the definition of an incel has become so broad, that people just apply it to any man that doesn't do whatever a woman tells them to or doesn't agree with everything she says. I thought incel meant anti social dipshit not someone who is critical and a free thinker.
Most girls probably have met at least one of them online. One of the reasons I quit this website when I was younger was because of an incel. Just toxic and horrible people. If you are an incel, it's most likely because of your personality and how horrible a person you are towards women. You aren't the nice guy that can't get a girl because they are all shallow. You are the "nice guy" all women with a brain hate with all their guts.
Most INCELs are self-created. They are lazy and/or awkward, yet expect to date women who get attention from other men. When they fail, instead of blaming themselves they blame the women who choose active and positive guys rather than the boring and negative ones.
Not always as simple as "just improve yourself lol." Just because it's easy for you doesn't mean it's easy for everybody else. Some of these people are physically deformed, hideous, mentally ill or impaired.
The thing is, when you have people like feminists that exist, it's natural that there's going to be some backlash. I'm very happy to know that most women aren't feminists but in the eyes of the incel's all women are man-hating, female superiority seeking trash because feminists have a very loud voice.
My school of thought is no one is responsible for any one elses actions, but we are responsible for our own actions
Yep. Crying and moaning won't fix your life. Go out and meet girls at least one of them will say yes if you go out a lot.
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