Why are incels humiliated and despised?

Question

Why are incels often insulted by people? So, is it a crime for a person not to be able to find a suitable partner and to express this openly? This is a very natural thing. Not everyone can find a partner when they want, in the way they want. Moreover, while a very small portion of these people are prone to violence, the majority are non-violent. So, instead of belittling people's problems and excluding them from society, wouldn't it be better to think about how we can win them over and benefit them? As Elliot Rodger said, humans are a very cruel species; When he does not touch himself, he does not understand the other party's situation and does not care about them.

BoopBoopBeep · Accepted Answer

You're citing a webpage devoted to the king (queen?) of incel trash while asking not to be humiliated... see the irony there?

Here's the thing, anti-Chad, right up until the last two lines you could've had a valid point. The reality of it though, from someone who for all intents and purposes would have been considered an incel in junior high if that term existed, is that most incels are just whining about not getting attention but engage in no serious self reflection as to why that would be.

Let's take your "hero" and namesake here. Eliot Rogers was an ugly guy sure, can't do a lot about that (though that haircut sure wasn't helping him), but he wasn't fat, he at least kept himself in good enough shape for that. He bragged about "his" BMW in his little video, but it's not really his is it? It's daddy's, because he neither built it nor bought it with money from the toil of his labor. There's nothing inherently wrong with getting a nice gift, but it's the pretention that comes with it when you didn't even work for it smacks of "hey ladies, put this sawdust in your vagina and tell me how wet you get." That's just not how that works.

The cadence of his speech was so "beta" it made MY junk shrivel up and crawl inside my stomach and his mannerisms were so forced that they were like some high school kid's caricature of what a real man sounds like. I got a whole buncha medals from a whole buncha time overseas so that says a lot for me to feel like that. But... all that could be worked on. I know several other autistic people that managed to pull it off quite nicely with practice, but he was too lazy and too entitled to put in the work and wanted to be a C-student with A-student results.

Haha even in his final moments he went out like a punk. Self-inflicted gunshot wound? GTFO of here. You know how many of my guys have done that in the heat of combat? F'ing none of them. He probably had a My Little Pony buttplug in the whole time and the media just didn't report it out of "respect for the family" or some such. I DO feel sorry for THEM. I hear they tried to drive out/up/wherever and stop his punk ass before it all went south.

Bottom line, you can't complain about being excluded from society when you're actively trying to act/speak/behave/exude 100% "exclude me from society" vibes. Stop idolizing simp-trash that actually didn't even make it to the level of simps, because simps still have more game than ol' Eliot. Stop canonizing someone who isn't even a has-been, but a never-was, and start elevating the man you WANT to be, then go out there and make it happen. Is it going to be easy? No. Neither is war, but I went over and did that 9 times. I didn't do it overnight and you're not half the man I am so you won't either, but you CAN do it if you put your mind to it. There's victims and there's victim mentality and the two don't have to go together. Take some ownership of your station in life and upgrade when necessary. Just like a video game though, you have to grind and farm XP to level up. You don't just wish it so.

Your's truly,

GigaChad

PS Do some pushups FFS

NaultD · Accepted Answer

Who insults incels more then themselves? Its just self flagellation just to call themselves incels. You can better yourself whenever your ready and open yourself to society and learn things about your own community around you.

You have been and only have been responsible for your own actions and ability to adapt and learn to talk to people. Ya it sucks but you have to start somewhere and get better. Push your own boundaries and learn new things and take responsibility for mistakes. It's all apart of life and being bad at it is 50% of it, 49% time is trying not to be bad at it and only 1% recognizing your good at something.

Fall in love with the process of learning life. That is finding meaning in life even for top experts.

4ngelic · Accepted Answer

there's no problem with being frustrated about being single and venting online. the thing is that most 'non violent' incels aren't just nice normal dudes wanting desperately to fuck or date. most actually hate women and think rape, murder, kidnapping, torture etc of women is a good thing. not to mention they also tend to be pro pedophilia and want to breed 12yos, and are also strongly overlapping with alt right & fachist circles, so add in racism, and all that stuff. honestly you just need to go look on their forums especially the main one you're probably one. i looked at it like a month ago and like 1/3 of the posts are posting murders or rapes of women and teen girls and them praising the criminal and saying how the girl deserved it. the also frequently praise elliot roger too. a lot of the posts are about what they'd want to do to girls if they could get away with it, like serial shooting, rape, etc and they have fun doing that. the rest of the post are about how women have no worth, are dumb and useless except for their holes, and about talking about specific girls they want to fuck/date and talking trash about them with other dudes or game playing creepy ways to get them to fuck or date them. there are very few actually wholesome or okay posts. if the posts dont fit in this category they are pro pedophilia stuff, or stuff about jews or non white races that look like they come straight from 1940s germany. you litterally have dudes with usernames like heilhitler, aryanman888, loliloverforwaffenss

also in my experience practically every incel that says they're not a bad incel and that they're just normal and nice, also really dont like women at all but are just toning that down. but the moment you oh so slightly piss them off the true colors come out (often they do a bad job at hiding it too though)

so its pretty obv why most people hate incels

mandyfire98 · Accepted Answer

"Incels aren't violent"

Proceeds to quote a mass killer and an incel.

Despised because incels are misogynistic and have proven to be violent. Elliot Rodger isn't the only one. There have been numerous incel killers. Incel rhetoric online has been extremely misogynistic and cultish.

IslaTheWitch · Answer

I don't think expressing it is a problem. Many people describe their struggles with finding suitable partners, and no one despises them.

If it's not the content that's the issue, maybe the way it's delivered causes a negative attitude in people. Used words, intonation, and body language.

PetLover24 · Answer

@emrekaankeles Because incels make themselves despicable by their own behavior, mannerism, and personality flaws.

If you read the psychology reports on the concept of incels statistically 90% of incels suffer from anti social personality disorder and other behavioral issues.

There are incels on this site, as example, and they behave more like toddlers - bullying others, harassing others, even threatening others, not listening to fact, sending inappropriate private messages, etc. - than adults.

None of their behavior is considerable acceptable in general society so it is no wondering they can't find women... however rather than look at themselves, they blame women for THEIR flaws.

HelpfulWoman · Answer

XD
no. it's because incels tend to go with "i hate women, women are all gold digging whores. THat's why I'm single!"
It's a MINORITY of "incels" who aren't like that, and by that point they therefore AREN'T incels since they're missing a key piece of the identifications for the term.

Anonymous · Answer

Cenk Uygur had interesting commentary about incels that is worth listen. He's not actually insulting towards incels because what is saying is most young men are involuntary celibate. Just that fact alone isn't what people are thinking of as "incels", rather the "incels" are the men that go onto forums and talk about hate and violence towards women. He even admits he was involuntary celibate for a lot of his youth and that it's normal which I believe is true. His commentary starts at 2:20.

etsylo · Answer

incels are often seen as unsavory people and i think it stems from how they act when nobody chooses them. we shouldn't take elliot into account when he went out to hurt people all because he couldn't get a relationship. that's just sad. i don't despise them, but them needing relationships for whatever reason (to be loved, validated) and whining about it can come off as annoying and often times depressing.

what makes you seemingly unattractive to society in your eyes to ask this?

DextroShade · Answer

I have a lot of sympathy for incels especially when 1 in 3 men are either virgins or haven't had sex in a year. Feminism and social media have convinced women that they are all queens and goddesses who only deserve the best men who are over 6 foot making over six figures and that the average man who is 5'9" making 50K a year is beneath them. Hoeflation has priced many men out of the sexual marketplace, the kind of men who would have been able to find wives 50 years ago. Just as people were rightly upset about being impoverished and starving during the depression these men are rightly upset at being denied access to intimacy. The biggest issue I have with dudes like Elliot Roger is that they suck horribly at choosing targets and should do their rampages at feminist gatherings or tech companies instead of schools or random civilian areas. They are just beat dogs lashing out with rage instead spending their lives in a way that might actually be effective.

normalice · Answer

They aren't. It's just that right wingers can't get any votes for their policies so created this incel grievance culture in an attempt to turn normal male sexual frustrations into tax cuts for the rich. But really the thing that makes most incels incels is the addictive draw of collectively blaming someone else and basking in victimhood. This is, exclusively, what stops incells from getting off their ass and improving themselves.

genericname85 · Answer

because they are full of shit. nobody is "involuntarily" celibate. if you wanna get fucked, lower your standards till you do. if you don't wanna lower your standards, it's a conscious chocie and not "involuntary". everyone can get fucked. no exceptions. just gotta lower your standards far enough. if you don't want to, then fucking wasn't your priority and then you were not an incel by definition, cause it's your choice.

Anonymous · Answer

Cause a lot of them are Nazis, and they want state-provided girlfriends.

They talk about taking women's rights away so that women can be dependent on men.

A lot of incels are psychos who want women to be oppressed.

Yes, there are men legitimately struggling with relationships who get hate and misandry from women, but that's because you have Nazi incels who are the loudest in the group.

To me, a loner is not the same thing as an incel.

wolfcat87 · Answer

The current definitions of Incel include not only involuntarily celibate but also openly resentful of women and/or people who are more successful dating. It's not about their lack of sex, it's about their bad behavior towards others. A person who isn't having luck with dating but has a wonderful view of others and treats them well is not an incel.

SherriMarieValentine · Answer

What study are you citing about, Incel violence vs non-violence? Also, incel is a psychosis that is as varied as the people that are it. SO, if they find someone, then the relationship ends do they stop, forever being and Incel? Do they still have the psychosis, but on dormant? To truly help someone yes, they need to be known, but as a psychosis, like any condition it needs treatment and or social counseling.

jshm2 · Answer

Because it's the least they deserve.

Incels and femcels are like cancer. You can like and pity cancer all you like, it's not going to go easier on you, or change, as it's not within it's nature. In fact they expect you to change for them!

This is why incels, atheists, flat-earthers, anti-vaxxers etc etc and other hateful minorities are sidelined and despised. They want you to make them your priority and king, but give nothing of equal value back.

Billlewis · Answer

As a longtime cuckold who has gradually evolved into an incel and dedicated fincuck, I think incels need to be thoroughly humiliated as often as possible, but perhaps not as despised as they are currently.

purplepoppy · Answer

If you are looking for sympathy you will find it in the dictionary between swelling and syphilis.

Anonymous · Answer

Feminists have always used victimization to acquire money, benefits and favors from men and society. Curiously, when incels do the same, they receive no compensation. This is because women have always used manipulation techniques to make themselves look like a victim. Elliot Rodger is simply a man who did the right thing, since no one cared about his problems, he took retribution into his own hands.

aceleon · Answer

humans are inherently bad and self-centered don't expect much from them you will only burden yourself.

Joshydavid25 · Answer

A lot of people look down on a male virginity, or the lack of ability for them get sex.. Men are valued for what we can do for society and showing some type of leadership qualities..

Raaj4you · Answer

You are right. I am humiliated by people bcoz I don't have girlfriend. I have failed to find a suitable partner. I have both strengths and weaknesses. God didn't make me a perfect guy. What can I do? How do I become a perfect guy to impress a girl? All girls want a perfect guy, a ultra wealthy guy. They don't want to understand my current situation.

Smashingdoozy · Answer

There's a difference between an incel and someone who hasn't had sex yet. An incel is someone who has hostility towards people who are having sex, and express extreme views about how women are the reason why they are sexless

Chandelier8 · Answer

It's not that they're hated for being incels, they're hated for the reason that they're incels. Namely their bad character and misogyny. It's a label used only for certain men. No sweet ugly, gay virgin would be called an incel, for example.

Blueeyes81 · Answer

You talk about not being violent then quote a mass murderer. Here's the thing. Incels are weird and they don't see it while everyone else does.

OddBeMe · Answer

Well…it’s more that you guys outwardly impose your learned helplessness and expect women to lay down for you to fuck them. I think it’s more labels being tossed around. And you have to admit, “incel mass murders” are a thing.

RavVid · Answer

Who says incels are humiliated, despised an excluded from society? How would you pick an incel out of a line up of 100 guys?

BarryLiverstone · Answer

Because generally they complain and there is no solution. For example if a woman agreed to be their girlfriend for a month do you think she would want to stay after that month?

Still-alive · Answer

"As Elliot Rodger said," lol nice... you know what you're doing dude. stop

worldscolide · Answer

Its their attitudes.. Seriously they are as bad as MGTOW. They blame women for all of their problems and fail to look at them selves.

Anonymous · Answer

You get the same energy that you give out. If you're going to generalize all women and call them all gold diggers or whatever, you're going to get some backlash. Accept that or keep those thoughts to yourself.

DarkLegacy · Answer

It soon backfires on them, especially the women.

Anonymous · Answer

They aren't. They're generally ignored. They feel humiliation themselves--that's not something anyone else "does" to them.

DreamLife7 · Answer

Why are u explaining to us your problems? Who cares

FenixG45 · Answer

Because they're dysfunctional and possibly dangerous.

MissBoogus · Answer

I think they are referring to the nasty ones.

gorydetails · Answer

Why are you playing victim?

Anonymous · Answer

They are seen like 3rd wave feminist

ThrillSeeker01 · Answer

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