Guys, would you rather date a traditional or modern girl? (Page 2)
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Traditional for sure, who wants someone who doesn't feel like they need someone else? Not that anyone NEEDS anyone but it's good to be wanted mutually between each other and have a little bit of dependability between each other as well in my opinion
The men who say modern r str8 up simps looking to be validated
I bet that is true. I'm sure they have dreams of traditional women but can't acutally score one
I doubt they are even smart enough to recognize the value of a traditional woman or even understand how many women deep down desire that, they just think the only way they can get a girl is by simping for the modern woman lol that is their strategy in life
How are you defining traditional values?
@jack187625 define traditional however you would like to
Okay, so looking for a long-term partner, whilst modern would be someone looking for a long-term partner that isn't against having fun in the interim?
modern but its hard to find a good modern girl worth your time nowadays
That is true. Most of them just want to play games
yep smh
Modern. A strong girl who can take care of herself. That way we can both take care of each other. I also like equality so like to keep things balanced
I voted this way for I am a traditional woman and have no problems getting asked out by men or having men show an interest in me either
I seem to get modern girls easily for the short term and I would possibly settle with a traditional one long term.
What do you me by a traditional woman?
What do you mean by a modern woman?
Use your own definition
@Apple1996
I asked what you meant.
A modern girl that likes the male/female roles in our relationship.
Feels
I'm not sure what you mean about traditional in what context? As long she is a Godly Christian woman, submissive, sweet, smart, honest and a cool person then I'm all in.
I like some aspects of both. I really like a girl who isn't threatened by traditional roles but that doesn't mean I want her to strictly adhere to traditional roles. But, a woman who enjoys cooking for us will win my heart every time.
whoever has a good personality and whether we both click
How about a Modern, EQUAL lady, that sometimes likes some of the Old, Traditional things?
Definitely modern, independent ambitious. No feminists or woke women though, depending on what exactly is meant by modern here.
I like unpredictability and that doesn't seem traditional.
I would prefer to date a traditional girl (moreover Indian) as girls here waer lenga or Saare and it very good to strip their traditional dress
I'd say more traditional but with some modern.
BY traditional I don't mean a submissive girl, or a servant. Just with traditional values.
If modern is anything that I'm thinking right now then I will take traditional in a heartbeat.
I like a mix. Traditional as in doing thing like dating and stuff like that but modern too. Someone who is at least kind and sweet and a nerd. Lol
Traditional only. I dont understand what a modern woman is good for except for having a pussy. No need to be in a relationship with them.
Aren't you the one who also complains that women should pay their own way and alimony is unfair?
@Julietchicago no. Ofc women shouldn't pay their own way. That makes no sense. My girlfriend for example works at home while i pay all the bills. But alimony as it currently exists is harmful and unfair.
But if a girl doesn't work, she would need alimony
@Julietchicago but if she got divorced its her responsibility to work. Women are capable. It just doesn't make sense in a serious relationship like marriage for them to do so. Outside of that they absolutely need to work.
And do what for work? With no experience nor college degree, there isn't much to choose from. Plus if she gets divorced at like 40, it would be impossible to start a good career at that age
@Julietchicago everything you just said is wrong but ok. If she's not my wife why is it my problem? Maybe she shouldn't leave her marriage? 🤔
It's not wrong. It's reality. It's not always the woman's fault that a marriage ends. My aunt left her husband because she found out he was a child molester. Should she have stayed in that marriage?
@Julietchicago thats a single instance. Vast majority of divorces are initiated by women and initiated for reasons such as just not being in love anymore. So that means if alimony is applied across the board far more women who leave for minor reasons would get alimony than if it was nonexistant who leave for valid reasons would not get alimony.
Basically do you want your airbag to go off for every single fender bender? Hell no. It would actually be safer to have no airbags than ones that went off every single time for every single accident.
So im saying as it exists alimony is a bad thing since its generally applied across the board.
How do you know women initiate it? Are there facts on this?
@Julietchicago yes. Women initiate about 72% of divorces or something like that. Why you think men complaining about divorce law so much? 🤣
And where is this number coming from? Have you ever thought that maybe they initiate divorces bc they are being abused, cheated on or the husband is taking drugs? Actually, the too reason for divorce is infidelity, not "boredom"
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/.../#idm140336027119936title
@Julietchicago thats not a real study. Its 54 couples participating in some sort of counseling program.
Thats just not true.
I think only financially well off men who abandon a woman who is not financially well off with children who did nothing wrong such as cheating should have any responsibility to pay for her comfort and lifestyle.
The vast majority of alimony is NOT this situation or even similar.
But in general the more roadblocks you put up on men the less men will be willing to marry and the higher requirements they will require. So even if it seems good its just meaning less women will get married.
Men get married to please a woman. Its risk reward... so the reward is make her happy the risk is higher and higher and yeah i want my girl to be happy but im rich and not an idiot. 🤷♂️ so too bad so sad. Lucky my girl gets it and is ok with not getting married.
If you think divorce is for other reasons, I'd like to see where you get the info
In states like California, both parties pay alimony, not just the man. And if they feel they are being taken to the cleaners, they should marry a woman who makes equal or more money than them.
@Julietchicago but men as a whole dont like women who make money. Like why bother? As this whole thing started... im really confused why a man would marry a woman who didn't follow to a high degree the traditional feminine role? I can't think of a single reason except 1. he's broke and wants a sugar mama 2. he's greedy and will sacrifice anything for extra money.
I don't understand why you say men don't like women who make money. If this were true, every female lawyer, ceo, manager etc would be single. But most of them are married
@Julietchicago most of them are married to beta men because they couldn't get an alpha. And many are single and whining about it ie men are losers for being 30s and 40s and successful and dating 20 year olds instead of the accomplished 35 yo professional woman.
False. Let's think about alphas and who they are married to. Arnold schwarzenegger married a journalist. Duane johnson married a CEO. Joaquin phoenix dating an actress. Most of our presidents wives had careers, Marlon brando married an actress. Aaron rodgers dates a racecar driver,
There are very few alphas who mary housewives, just because you're stuck in some kind of 1950s fantasy doesn't mean we all are
That's okay if it works for you, but don't act like it's gospel bc you have no followers.
So what are u gonna do when your wife turns 35? Ditch her for someone younger?
@Julietchicago a handful of celebrities which may or may not be alpha in their private lives. When you look at normal people their are men women go crazy over and the ones they settle for. I mean also celebs have insane divorce rates above even the general population so i dont think they really prove anything in any way.
in my opinion if a girl is modern and or slutty i just fuck them and never ever date them. And these girls wonder why i won't date them and i tell them they just dont have anything i want. And they say im some misogynistic asshole. But i can easily date traditional women and its clearly obvious to have a woman cook clean be feminine to me is far more awesome than some girl who doesn't do those things. Personally i can hardly stand a woman who isn't traditional... i have nothing in common with them nor do i really respect them and they make just no damn sense.
Those celebrities are alpha in real life, especially marlon brando. And divorce wasn't the topic on that.
They are right. You are a misogynistic asshole because you could have easily been honest w them before jumping in the sack. But instead you wanted to play fuckboy games because you have a vendetta against them. Just don't be shocked if one of them breaks your knee caps one day w a baseball bat
@Julietchicago well if they have sex without getting to know me its their problem. They are undateable so obviously im not going to date them.
And how does your housewife girlfriend feel about your slutty past? My bet is that she doesn't know
@Julietchicago she loves it. She enjoys having a desirable insatiable experienced masculine man.
I didn't know being a whore makes you a man. Do you like in tijuana? 😂
@Julietchicago huh?
You pretty much said that fucking a lot of girls makes you a man. I asked if you grew up in Tijuana bc that's how they feel in Mexico
@Julietchicago please quote me as saying that. Being desirable is important. Why would i be some fat loser nobody wants? My girlfriend would be ashamed to be with a man like that and rightfully so.
How does your girlfriend feel about your slutty past?
"She loves it. She loves having a desirable, experienced masculine man"
Therefore, you are saying slutty men are a sign of masculinity.
You now say everyone wants someone desirable (physically), yet you think a woman who has slept w a lot of men is trash. Double standards? Definitely
@Julietchicago desirable doesn't mean slept with everyone. Wtf. And hos are trash. I like a good girl who doesn't sleep around because traditional women dont do that.
But you said you are desirable bc you slept around.
And traditional women don't sleep around? LMAO don't be so naive! With all that time on their hands...
@Julietchicago what time on their hands? Lol. Typical girl I've dated stays home and lives w her family and watches young kids and helps clean house. Volunteers at church and believes casual sex is wrong.
Lmao she believes casual sex is wrong and you go out and have it? Then you have the nerve to call yourself religious?
@Julietchicago 🤷♂️
It is a preference and like everything else relative.
I don't think one is better than the other or has more value in general.