Why do so many black men here always elevate white women onto pedestals? Why do so few of them value black women yet still expect them to be loyal?

[Jack9949]

It just makes no sense to me.

It seems like most black guys are attracted to white women who share their socially liberal lifestyle values of not wanting to marry and raise kids.

And they’ve just become bored of black women because the media doesn’t portray them as a status symbol.

I’ve been talking to all these black guys on the site and it just really shows how terribly insecure they are.

They’ll ask a million questions about white women and yet they’ll still demand loyalty from black women at the same time. And they’ll claim they have a preference for black women even though the next day they’ll be telling me they have a preference for Asians.

I’m just tired of seeing black men sh*t on black women all the time.

It needs to stop.

Not even the most racist of white men I’ve encountered spend as much time trashing black women as some of the black men I’ve seen here do.

And black men don’t even realize they are getting played.

White women aren’t attracted to them. They just like to use them for short term benefit.

[MCheetah]

I see it, too. To be 100% honest, I don't judge people by race. The women I have dated most often have been white women, but there's been times I've been willing to give my left nut for lack women, too. (Not literally; I don't simp.) I 100% do not care about race. I just care about loyalty, attraction, and chemistry. I legit have been attracted to almost every race of woman out there. Maybe not Eskimo, though. Never been into an Eskimo woman, before. Possibly never Samoan, either.

The sad fact is, insecurity exists everywhere. Among women, among men, blacks, whites, etc. Hell, I can admit I'm a bit envious at tall people, considering my own height. But I don't go out and try to hurt others due to this. And while I do have some "biases" of my own (like, I won't ever date "bisexual" women and I find them highly unappealing), I won't go out and try to hurt people or defame them. Most of the time. I WILL talk a lot of sh*t on stupid, vicious people, though. Mainly, I'm talking about SJW's. People who get joy out of hurting others, online or even offline.

To best answer the question, a lot of it, besides insecurity, has to do with socioeconomic status. I'm black, so to put it in as blunt of words as possible, "having a white woman means you've made it." It basically is like a trophy wife for a lot of black men. Tiger Woods and Ice-T are strong examples of this. Not saying the love isn't or can't be genuine, but it is definitely a status symbol among some black men. Add to this that a lot of black women are hood rats or from the ghetto, and it becomes "White women means I'm rich, black women means I'm broke ghetto trash." And if these black men hate being seen as such, of course they're going to elevate someone like Anna Kendrick as being "the golden prize" and dismiss, or even hate any local "esha" from their local neighborhood.

That's the most straightforward and simple way I can explain it. And while I don't ascribe to this theory, I 100% understand it. I grew up poor as f*ck in the Lancaster Ave. part of West Philly (the legit ghetto) and now live in a rent-free high-rise apartment in Songpa, Seoul, South Korea, as an ESL teacher. I could understand other black guys not wanting to go back to another Moesha or La'deesha from the hood. But I just happen to know that trash women, just like good women, exist in all races and nationalities.

But at the end of the day, it all goes back to insecurity. And partially, socioeconomic status. Although, in reality, Asian women probably would make better trophy wives, ironically.

[Jack9949]

Excellent take. This was the straightforward answer I needed

[MCheetah]

No problem Thanks for MHO.

[hellacray]

Lol well I personally don't put any race of women on a pedestal.

And white women have their own problems...

Like a lot of them are activists. And I mean the whole Karen thing kind of speaks for itself.

[Anonymous]

Maybe that’s the new group of men who recently joined GAG? I never ran into that type of post. I guess they need some place to vent where those who think like them will agree. It doesn’t bother me at all. I’m a Black woman and I never had an issue attracting men who were genuinely attracted to me regardless of his race or skin color. I hope black women continue to love themselves and the man for her will treat her as the wonderful woman that she is. If a man doesn’t like black women or a certain skin color who am I to tell them other wise. Definitely wouldn’t be losing any sleep over it. 🤷🏾‍♀️

[Jack9949]

Its just obnoxious how they’ll go to endless lengths obsessing over white women. And you’re right. Strangely enough they do seem to be this new influx of members. But with them its more than just a preference. You’ll here them literally saying they are incapable of finding beauty within their own race. Its really disturbing how racist they are.

[Mamaganja]

The guy in the first video 😍🥵🥵


No but forreal. I think it has to do with being raised in broken homes. When black children are raised in broken homes, they tend to be with their mothers vs their fathers. The mothers will in most cases be verbally and sometimes physically abusive because of the stresses of single parenthood. That son grows up and begins to resent black women because of the abuse they endured as children. It’s a terrible, terrible cycle but I believe that has a lot to do with it.

[amy654]

What about the absentee fathers? Why dont they play an active role? Why dont they financially support their child (ren)? Why can't the cycle be broken by the men?

[Jack9949]

@amy654 Because they have no interest in helping.

[Mamaganja]

@amy654 it’s the never ending cycle. I too believe in holding men accountable and not just the mothers but still, if you are in a situation where you’re a single mother, maybe don’t be so hard on your children because of your actions and choices. You can’t control what other people do, only yourself.

[Jack9949]

@Mamaganja so how can we like actually convince black men to be better fathers?

[Mamaganja]

@Jack9949 that’s the million dollar question. A lot of black men (not all of course) want instant satisfaction and to claw their way out of the hood and make something of themselves which often leads them to abandoning their children and creating more and more. I don’t necessarily understand the mindset that makes them abandon their children... when they’re children, they see their fathers abandon them which will lead a black man to either have the mindset to not be like their fathers and take care of their children or to justify abandonment because it’s been done to them. It’s all individual choice based off their morals and values.

[amy654]

I agree that it's a never ending cycle but everyone seems to only blame bw 😟

[Jack9949]

@amy654 Yeah and its f*cked up when they do that because its usually black men pulling the plug

[Apope16]

I love black women. But a lot of them treat me with attitude and disrespect because I am educated. Also... white women treat me better because they view me a a fetish or a unique prize. Im just another dude to a black woman. To a white woman I am a rare guy to fuck.

[Jack9949]

That only goes for certain white women tho. And I just hope your cool with them using you for sex purposes.

[ct1243]

Educated BW aren’t checking for educated BM. A lot of us know that you date out anyways. I don’t care what you’re social status is - mentality is still trash 🗑

[Apope16]

@ct1243 I know that disussions like this can produce strong emotions because black men or black women or white people can feel offended. But the author asked a very specific questions and I did my best to honestly answer why. If she didn't want to hear the truth then she shouldn't ask a controversial question based on a negative. LIke if you are a black woman obviously asking "Why do black men not like black women" would produce only negative responses. If she asked "why do black men love black women" then the response would be all positive.

Me? I date all races. And yes, I have dated some beautiful black women that I have liked. They were respectful and great in bed.

@jack9949 if you are an attractive guy with a Big penis many women will use you for sex regardless of your race. As for white women, I am actually in a relationship with a white woman. I have previously been in a 2 year relationship with a white woman. If you are an attractive guy and know what you are doing any race will date you. The only race I have not slept with or dated has been Asian or Native American. That would be nice someday if I dont fall in love right now.

[Apope16]

@ct1243 Actually what I was saying is that uneducated Black Women disrespect educated black men. I have been told that I was not "Hood enough" or that I wasn't "Bad Enough". Growing up many black women from the ghetto/hood/urban area however you wanna call it.. many of these black women would never accept some black dude who was in the orchestra or was smart or got good grades in school. That want a "Thug". They want a musclar and angry black man that was going to protect them on the streets. They just viewed me as Carlton from the Fresh Prince of Bel Air. Then when I grew up it was the same thing.

So what I actually prefer is EDUCATED Black Women. They get it. they get my life experiences. They dont disrespect me. That's what I like and prefer. I just didn't have the chance to meet many because I never went to an all black college. But I would love an educated black woman who has an advanced degree and is doing things with her life. Does that make sense? But your attitude of just assuming that an educated brotha won't like you is the reason why BLack Men dont date Black WOmen. It is their attitude. The negative attitude. We black men are looking for you ladies out there. The problem is the attitude.

[ct1243]

I never truly dated BM and I find I’m more settled outside the BC because of my environmental uprootings. I’ve dealt with you BM to a degree , but limited to no experiences @Apope16 Jack is a man by the way @Apope16 the BW you mostly dealt with were hood rats , baby mamas, and not educated? There are rare BW , but we ended up dating out anyways

[Anonymous]

"And black men don’t even realize they are getting played.
White women aren’t attracted to them. They just like to use them for short term benefit."
Bullshit.
"Badge of honor"
Bullshit. It comes down to being selfish and racist. Everybody and every race for themselves. I for one don't care of the color of a partner or the color of another person. It is the actions of a person that I'm concerned about and if those actions concern the majority of a race of people, I take note and acknowledge it. That way I become a better individual. I support my race of people but I don't enable stuck on stupid. If my parents do wrong why would I want to go through the same hardships they have. I could gravitate towards them because of my race but that's being arrogant of myself and my people. I desire beauty when it comes to a partner. I do have a preference outside my race because I desire something different. It's like a gay who wants the same gender but I want the different gender. I don't have an answer to your question. And from the videos you posted, it does not matter if you fall in love with another, race and status rule in society. Which in and by itself is overweening and gross. If you believe in God well God chastised Satan because the latter said his being/creation is better than Adam's existence/creation. That's racism and it sucks that humans do the same to each other. I end with that.

[Floppy2112]

I know black guys who won't even look at black women. Their reasoning? Well, it's not polite to say because it's pretty harsh, so I won't. But they have very, very negative views on black women and these guys really detest them. I don't know that they elevated white women, they just won't date black women and the reasons they gave I cannot repeat because it's kind of racist. And since people have been canceled and had their lives ruined for quoting someone who said racist things, I am not going to sacrifice myself on the golden altar of identity politics to explain their reasons. Besides it's anecdotal. These are black guys I know. I just know that there is a certain faction of black men who will not date black women and the faction is growing. I knew one guy who disliked his own mother because she was a black women. The day he turned 18 he split and never looked back.

[R3DthatDude]

I’m a black male and I don’t worship white women. This sounds so dumb to me lol. I see there’s some black women in here that’s been burned, and they go about bashing black men because they’ve been hurt so many times. Get over yourself just because someone hurt you doesn’t mean the entire black community hurt you, maybe you just got bad taste. There over 6 billion people on this planet, if I want a black woman im ganna get me a black woman, and if I want a white woman im ganna get me a white woman. All this generalized garbage is an illusion, this is just a bunch of people speaking there minds about something you actually have no idea what you’re talking about.

[Jack9949]

I appreciate your decency however numerous posts like this are what causes me to form my “generalizations” Am a black guy in georgia where the best place to meet white women and time of day or store? ↗

[Jack9949]

Like scroll though that guys comments and read my recent conversations with him

[Jack9949]

@r3dthatdude then he’s got his black buddy backing him up in the comments So I told this white woman she have cute lips and she blush and smile, what that mean? ↗

[Jack9949]

And here’s a guy a couple weeks back. Notice how he openly states “I don’t like black women” Can someone understand my struggles with dating white or Asian or Latina as a black guy? What do I do then? ↗

[ct1243]

As a BW, the majority of you worship WW. BW don’t float their IR relationships like BM do.

[Mamaganja]

@jack9949 Some black men “worship” white women because white women will fetishize them and out THEM on a pedestal whereas a black woman will not kiss ass and will tell it like it is. Men in general don’t like vocal women and a black woman will not spare feelings when they see you fuckin up or doing something they don’t like. My mom is white. My dad is black. My dad said to me and my sister before that the only reason we are biracial is because he had an aunt who used to taunt him that he better marry a white women because if he doesn’t his kids will be “black as fuck”... it has a lot to do with colorism and hate within the black community. I have never seen my dad with a black woman.. EVER. It’s got to do with his own self hate. And I imagine it’s the same for other black men. White, Asian and Hispanic women will give the black man an “exotic” looking child. They hate themselves and their skin.

[R3DthatDude]

Well I’m nothing like what all of you describe and I’ve never experienced it. Seeing the post I obviously see men that think that way, however all my black friends have black wives, so there’s also a lot of men that don’t. Like I said you think like your environment. Probably just. Surrounded by people that have that mindset, maybe you need to change your environment.

[Jack9949]

@r3dthatdude Some where you from bro? If this is an issue of environment.

[R3DthatDude]

I’m currently in Georgia, I grew up in Detroit, MI

[Jack9949]

@r3dthatdude Well that other dumbass I showed you was also from Georgia. It is a problem where you live now as well. Am a black guy in georgia where the best place to meet white women and time of day or store? ↗

[ronaldo75]

Black women have no respect for black men. Part of the reason is the fact that black women have been trained by the White power structure (going back to slavery) to look down on black men and never seem them as actual adult men. A black male child is born and before he's able to talk is already being insulted and put down by an angry bitter black mother. During his school years, if he lives in a ghetto, he's put down for 12 years by angry, nasty bitter black female teachers. If he ends up needing help from the government, his social worker or case worker is a condescending rude, demeaning inconsiderate black woman. His first few girlfriends are going to non-affectionate, hard, crass black women who are always one or two words away from a confrontation.
You wonder why they fantasize about non-black women or white women?

[Jack9949]

Good grief. I don’t know who to believe. Black women tell a much different story but it’s still obvious you both hate eachother.

[Synikal]

Seriously don't be one of those people who sit there thinking of being an ally of black women going above and beyond. You have to realize how many people on the world are like this on both sides an not leave out the ones who are not. I came here to your post because to me and my people it sounds stupid only because we dated women of all kinds but most have been black women and we remained and stayed with black women. Grew to marry them. Although I'm not in the married group o do have friends or associates who have not but literally only 1 out of 5 of them have dogged out black women. When you say black men, don't make it sound like all of us or majority. Hell not even half. There are dudes with their fetishes as there are those without. What they do is on them. Not the rest of us. Good? Good.

[Jack9949]

I’ve been talking to black women who say these black men account for the majority. And even if they are a minority, I have met plenty of those kind on this site recently

[Synikal]

Small variable to me. I've yet to meet it in RL.

[Jack9949]

Well that’s probably because they are uncomfortable expressing it publicly. I know plenty of white guys with Asian girl fetishes but they don’t go around yelling “I love Asian girls” in the streets.

[Synikal]

Funny I came across a post of a white guy praising how Asian women are much more better than white women In a post a week ago. Literally praising how submissive they are. These are your experiences, not everyone else. Don't treat it as it is a majority. The women I know speak their minds and not hold it in.

[Jack9949]

Concerning that white guy when I said “out in the streets” I meant a literal interpretation. Obviously people have no problem expressing their views in settings where everyone is anonymous (aka the Internet)

[Synikal]

It's the internet. If you have a problem speaking ONLINE. Something is wrong.

[Anonymous]

You are right sir. Black men would literally say you are talking trash when the evidence is everywhere in person and on social media.

[Jack9949]

Its really disgusting. I’m not an SJW in any way but I feel like starting a movement for BW

[Opinion Owner]

Sounds great. I wish we had more male allies like you.☺

[Jack9949]

Are you a black woman?

[Opinion Owner]

Yes :)

[Jack9949]

Where from?

[Opinion Owner]

Cali. Where are you from?

[Jack9949]

I’ll have to go there sometime so I can give you a kiss. 😘

[Opinion Owner]

😍😊💕💕

[Jack9949]

Can we marry? ❤️

[Opinion Owner]

If only i were younger haha

[Jack9949]

It says you’re 18-24?

[Opinion Owner]

Yep. Im actually 24

[Jack9949]

Ohh ok

[Jack9949]

Either way I still find that attractive. You’re not aged out for me. 😘❤️

[Opinion Owner]

You're so sweet 😘

[Jack9949]

Do you have an account here?

[Opinion Owner]

In order for anyone to ask or answer questions theyll need an account so yes unless GAG made changes

[Jack9949]

Cool. What is it?

[Opinion Owner]

I've added u

[Jack9949]

What’s your username? Lol

[Opinion Owner]

Begins with a :)

[Jack9949]

I’m confused lol

[Opinion Owner]

My username begins with the letter "A'. I've added you.

[Jack9949]

That’s much more helpful. Lol

[Opinion Owner]

Im amy

[Jack9949]

Yup 😂

[Anonymous]

Black men love the subaltern status they occupy in white women's minds. Almost like walking dildos. LMFAO!

Some people are happy when people throw some scraps at them and take for granted who really love and respect them, go figure.

[Opinion Owner]

Correction: take for granted those ones who really love and respect them.

[uknown789]

I really don't want to get involved in this situation bc I really do not care about love bc this is only one of the explanation that what love can cause and what can love to do love so yeah and do not suspect that if a person is black he is rude and mean to a black woman i can find you several black man and woman relationship i do not care about this but you involved all black man not a single group

[Jack9949]

It is a problem though. Regardless. Look at the examples I gave in the chat.

[uknown789]

yes but you cannot judge a book by its cover sorry

[Jack9949]

I don’t. I have met some decent black men on this site.

[uknown789]

oh sorry

[Jack9949]

If you know @rjroy3 and @MCheetah they are decent people to converse with

[MCheetah]

Thanks.

[Anonymous]

As a black guy I don't obsess over anybody. Women of all races no matter what background they came from are all basically the same to me at this point.

[Jack9949]

Yes. It seems to me like only the black men I’ve seen on here younger than 25 act this way

[ct1243]

As a BW , BM are lost ducks and fetishize their preferences. Even their preferences don’t want them.

[Jack9949]

And that’s the thing about it.

[ct1243]

They should feel stupid and embarrassed

[ct1243]

Black women should date out and stop giving their loyalty to men who don’t deserve it

[Jack9949]

They are too dumb to feel embarrassed even. They think us white girls are jealous of them 😂😂😂

[Jack9949]

Guys*

[ct1243]

Haha

[Jack9949]

Its just really stupid every time they say shit like “ohhhh its small dick white men getting angry” 😂😂

[ct1243]

All BM don’t have BBC and I met blessed WM LOL

[Jack9949]

True. The porn phenomenons 😂😂

[ct1243]

LOL mhm

[Raveagit]

Or it's just taking Caucasians stuff the same as always.

[misanthropistkev]

I’m not gonna lie I don’t fuck with black women at all and if I do it’s not anything serious if I had to pick a woman to be with seriously she would most likely be white or Asian

[ct1243]

Self hater

[misanthropistkev]

@ct1243 I don’t hate black women i just have my own best interest in mind and it’s more beneficial to be with a white woman

[ct1243]

Still a self hater. I don’t care who you black men date , but what you said “ I have my own best interest in mind” you just shitted on black woman. “ Its more beneficial to be with a white woman” .. you probably see more beauty in them than black women. I wish my sisters would leave you black men alone. None of you value us anyways and I saw this a long time ago. What we’re seeing is these masks coming off about how you black men really feel about us.

[misanthropistkev]

@ct1243 when your with a white woman you can use their white privilege to your advantage black women can't do that in other words a white woman is more useful

[misanthropistkev]

I’m not shitting on black woman im just saying weighing the pros and cons the white women got y’all beat and it’s vice versus with white men too

[ct1243]

You’re stupid and I mean that. No other words needed.

[misanthropistkev]

@ct1243 besides isn’t it kind of racist to assume just because someone is black they even want to be with other black people

[FýrdracaDócincel]

Because loyalty is a basic fucking human expectation.

[Jack9949]

You completely missed the question.

[Jack9949]

I was saying that black men who show no interest in black women still expect their interest

[FýrdracaDócincel]

Oh.
Yeah that's retarded.

[genericname85]

cause they have the exact same idiotic stereotypes that blm accuses whites to have xD

[wittymilf]

What country are you from?

[Jack9949]

USA why?

[Juxtapose]

All this bullshit over skin tone?

[Jack9949]

I know. Its ridiculous.

[Apope16]

What I have learned is that in the black community skin tone matters for everything. All the time you hear people say "Oh yeah that light skinned brotha"... yes. they call other black people "light skinned brotha.."

I remember my sister. girls would be like "is that your sister? damn she's like dark." Or say there is a darker black man. Other black people will say "that darker skinned nigga'. Black people are more obsessed with skin color than whites. whites are privileged and dont even realy think much about it.

[Juxtapose]

@Apope16 Are the lighter skinned ones treated like a bourgeoisie class or are they treated as "impure"?

What about the darker skinned ones?

An ex black girlfriend of mine talked about the struggles of being light-skinned but didn't really go in-depth about it so I don't understand.

[Jack9949]

@Apope16 I just find it weird how you’re saying black people are obsessed with race like that. Like why does it matter so much to them?

[ChloeDoeTho]

White women love big black cock it's simple tbh

[Jack9949]

Lmfao

[Ms_Vanderquack]

White men do it too. Even had Mexican men do it.

[misanthropistkev]

No one shits on black women worse than Latina women

[Ms_Vanderquack]

@misanthropistkev uh... Cool story bro?

[ct1243]

Latina women are very jealous of BW.

[Ms_Vanderquack]

@ct1243 why are you people even talking to me about this shit?

[ct1243]

You’re under a post and we responded Ms_ Vanderquack

[Ms_Vanderquack]

@ct1243 I'm not under a damn thing. It's my post you are responding to some other dip shit on.

[Anonymous]

it speaks to their character