Philosophical question: If women cost men money, then what do men cost to the women?

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I know what some of you will say. You don't need to tell me, that there are women making their own money (or outearn men) and are paying for themselves. I love women like these. They're the best!

I am also not talking about greedy boyfriends, that wouldn't ever invest into their woman. Or penniless/student boyfriends, that are stuck on minimum wages or crawled out from inhumane backgrounds.

I am talking about real relationships.

If women cost men money, then what do men cost women? Women, what are the prices you pay to find, get and maintain a boyfriend? Do men cost money to you too?

Anonymous · Accepted Answer

Youth, virginity or bodycount and beauty. I wish men only cost me money since you can earn money but can't change your looks, age, non virginity etc. My experience with many guys on gag is that many gag guys are kinda obsessed with women's age, bodycount and youth. So i have been told a woman is a leftover, when she is over 30s, promiscuos/non virgin or single mum. I have seen gag guys who says that they use single mums as sextoys
According to this whole logic your worth decrease the more older you get, the higher your bodycount get or your loss of virginity. So men make women worthless by this logic. But gag guys dont represent the majority of men. So i dont know how true this is. But if it is true, then this will be drastic for majority of women since majority of women ain't young, virgin and childless. So if women who ain't virgin, young, childless are leftovers and worthless for majority of men and if men who date them are betacucks then this will turn many women into crazy femcels. Look at Elliot rodger (?) who is a well known incel that killed many people. [This does not justify abuse or murder.]
In some middleeastern countries divorced women are seen leftovers or no worthy for love again and this is why it is not uncommon for them to kill their ex husbands for leaving them. So imagine your husband left you when you are no longer young, virgin, childless and no man will marry/date you because of this. So rest of your life you will never be loved again by men and you are only used as sextoy and plus you get shamed for being a single mum, a non virgin or promiscuos, and a middle age woman for example and your ex husband replaced you with a young woman. This person wil become a crazy femcel that see no reason anymore to live or to not commit crimes like murdering his husband. Again This does not justify abuse or murder

Sorry for this long post. I watched many mgtow videos. I hope this is all bs aka not true but it kinda makes me suicidal and scared to get older. I can't generalize any man as i said and i am only summarizing the opinions of some gag guys.
i am person who needs love, company and affection and iso i am a cuddle whore lol. So it scares me to end up being lonely femcel

AmandaYVR · Accepted Answer

Their sanity.

"What does he want?" "Is it just into me for my body/looks?" "What's his endgame?" "Is this a game to him?" "What did he really mean when he said that?" "Was that just a lie?" "How many other chicks is he after?" "Does he only want me because someone else has me?" "Did he get what he wanted?" "Is it over but he's just too chicken to say it?"

Shit like that. Guys do not tell you these things. (Well, good guys do, mature guys do, and real men do; but boys, young guys, an idiots and assholes do not.) You have to guess.
(And yes, I know, the same thing goes with girls... I presume.)

hellionthesagereborn · Accepted Answer

Currently? Nothing, women take men give. Traditionally? Freedom. That is to say, she gets the peace of mind of security and of being taken care of, but she is like a child in that because he has all the responsibility he has the final say (and for the record he would also lose his freedom as she was now his responsibility and all that he did was for her best interests (which is why in many areas men could be imprisoned for their wives debts or for failing to take care of her).

That isn't to say she is treated like a child only that she is being cared for and thus has to defer to the man. She loses the ability to be a leader and to be independent (which is one of the reasons why some women in history refused to get married (Queen victoria is a famous example), because they prefered the risks that came with being independent and free to the security and comfort that came with being dependent.

Currently women claim to be independent but then also demand that security and care that came from traditionalism so the relationships result in complete disfunction and unhappiness as women instinctively want to be cared for and prefer security generally speaking (again, their are noteable exceptions) to being the one in charge.

Qdbrown · Accepted Answer

Women still cost men money. If a woman out earns the man, she will still expect the man to pay for dates, weddings and mortgages. They might offer to help, but the true expenses will generally be paid by the man. The woman merely has more to buy and borrow from. Her money is hers.

jennifer_bloom · Answer

Birth and Pregnancy and Pregnancy Weight Gain and Years of Breastfeeding and Child Rearing Joblessness and Lost Beauty and Youth due to child birth and lifelong responsibility as a parent

muscularbumblebee · Answer

-the potential to get pregnant even with contraception always a fear
- our time: most even attractive women are used to lots of male attention and dedicating that to one guy means a lot
- security: if a guy isn’t physically strong for instance, biologically we feel less secure but don’t want to admit it
-Our expectations: even in a feminist society most (not all women) would somewhat do more household chores than men so if we commit to a man then we may start cooking and cleaning more often etc
-more beauty items: arguable but when a woman dates a man usually she’ll spent more time on cute clothes, makeup etc which can add up in costs

As well as many more. But it goes both ways for males too

TommyMountainFigure · Answer

I remember reading a fact many years ago. Not sure if it is still true today.

Single men on average die younger than married men, but married women die younger than single women. So in effect it is costing them life.

pink_and_inlove · Answer

Hey men cost money too 😂 I’m one of those girls that pay for the food and when he visits you have to buy him stuff too.

MotorcycleMan · Answer

Sanity.
The old paradigm is that men worked and women didn't, so women took care of the home and family. I don't see that as women costing money, they are a partner in the household and everyone does a part.

MzAsh · Answer

Time. A woman’s time is extremely valuable in regards to sexuality and relationships since women have a limited time to physically reproduce.

Anonymous · Answer

Science has shown that women living with men shortens our life spans and increases their life span. That’s our cost, life spans.

iseekpinetrees · Answer

I feel best answer is our sanity. Time. Youth. Body. Patience.

Dazed0N0Confused · Answer

My boyfriend "costs" me money, time, energy, & sanity lol

MCheetah · Answer

The opportunity to get more money with a richer guy. Possibly youth.

dragoblack · Answer

The lane reflects. Both cost each other money, tolerance, & sanity. You have to support each other in the relationship, not toxically use each other for various reasons.

SupremeWarlord · Answer

Their sanity LOL. I'm scared as hell to read her comments because I have a feeling they will say we are useless shitty people.

DexWest · Answer

Applying only to those in serious, long term relationships, we cost them their sanity.

Anonymous · Answer

Attractiveness.
Every physical interaction she has with a guy decreases her value as a partner to other guys.

The kissless virgin begins at high value and that value degrades logarithmically with each successive partner.

KrakenAttackin · Answer

Women extract FAR more from men than men will ever receive from women.

Anonymous · Answer

Men cost women angst when they don't bring home as much money as the woman wants.

karaspara · Answer

Heartache  Sanity Money Time

Anonymous · Answer

Men cost women their of trust in men

fonduegirl · Answer

In my opinion body (sex and childbirth).

Nik1hil · Answer

Time and commitment and loyalty

TacosRAwesome · Answer

Also money because time is money.

Aakash_Hangargi · Answer

Vagiana , youthness, age , time

Nazgol · Answer

Lots. They cost food, clothing, makeup

Feelicks · Answer

Time maybe?

succubus_girl · Answer

they cost us time

stargazeraug1989 · Answer

Our sanity.

WowwGirl · Answer

Labor

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