Anyone in a Female Led Relationship (FLR)? What are your thoughts on them?

[htmndg183]

Thoughts on them?

[Anonymous]

Only online. I just wanted try new and i kinda like it but i am too soft to be 100% dominant.. so i was a soft dominant lol. Some people dont get it in the commentsection. Dominant women dont force anyone to be submissive. In my experience i kinda acted dominant to seduce him. There are more submissive men than dominant woman. I am not submissive but also ain't dominant. Being submissive does not make you unmasculine or feminine. It is just a role play, sexual thing or just dating preference.

[Lifter1]

If I understand correctly you do not hesitate to start with a guy?

[Anonymous]

Not really, but I had some boundaries up before going in dates and making things official. So, my now boyfriend let me call the shots and make moves when I was ready. However, I don’t think that’s really a FLR. He’s still leading the relationship for the majority of things.

[htmndg183]

Fair enough.

[OlderAndWiser]

No, I believe i have an equal partner, and that is what I want.

[Aakash_Hangargi]

All relationship are FLR lol some just don't know it 😸

[Lifter1]

No, it's impossible because in sexual intercourse the male is the dominant gender, if his body will not react towards the female nothing will happen, so biologically and psychologically the female always depends on men, it's could be one man alone or collective man in case of single mother by choice (smbc), and by the way this is the source of patriarchy.

[jasco]

Well I just don't see how that would work for me. I don't like being sub in a relationship ( yes i tried it and I didn't like it ). Honestly I just wouldn't be in one but if the men who enjoy it are in it for themselves and like it than go for it

[CallmeTheKnight]

I'm not for it. Some guys are ok with it, but I prefer to led. It's ok to have boundaries, but I'm sure a lot of women would like for a man to normally be in charge

[t-8900]

No, I am defiant by nature and indomitable. I take what I want.

[Luopio27]

They are urban legends.
Skust like nice guys finish first.

[AnthonyJ01]

My ex demanded to be in control of everything and she completely screwed everything up. Most if if was intentionally done though.

[Exterminatore]

I am not and I think they are stupid. Any man willing to accept such an arrangement is a woman with a penis so far as I’m concerned.

[htmndg183]

Lol. Each to their own. Male led relationships are common and the equal balance ones are common too. Was curious to hear about FLR here.

[Exterminatore]

I also feel the same about equal balance relationships. I do not believe in equality between the sexes. First of all we’re not the same so we’re not equal. Things must be the same to be equal. 2 and 2 are equal, 2 and 5 are not because they’re not the same. Secondly they are morally, physically, mentally and emotionally weaker in nearly every aspect then men. Yes, there are exceptions to the rule.

Frankly, by todays standards and definition I’m a sexist. I make no apology for it. I will not be lead by someone who is inferior to me in every respect by choice.

Everyday at my job, which is traditionally a man’s job I watch women collect the same pay as men, but are unable to meet the physical demands of the job and require physical assistance, or require help with the mechanical aspects of the job as most of them seem to be unable to solve mechanical problems whether simple or complex. So they collect the same pay as men but are not able to fully do the same job men are expected to do. That’s not equality. Either you can meet the required job qualifications without consistent need for help from someone whose physically stronger or can solve mechanical or electrical problems mostly on your own without need for constant baby sitting or it cannot be called equality and they should not be paid equally to men for the same job.

They then tell me about how strong and independent women are. Yes, so strong and independent I’m consistently required to lift things they can’t or solve problems they can’t. What I’m stating is true of the roughly 12 women who preform the same job I do.

Seeing this first hand takes it from theory to objective and observable fact. I simply cannot submit to leadership voluntarily from a creature that reasons primarily emotionally, and is weaker in every respect than myself. I do not hate women, but I’m sorry. I believe they are inferior to men in most areas of life.

Why do you take pleasure in being bossed around? Just curious.

[TsAubreyKate]

I got too much testosterone for that Leo females are really bossy I don’t like it

[notwoke]

that would probably result in both people dying or being jailed

[bamesjond0069]

Disgusting and immoral. Would not associate with any man into that stuff.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

I would never be in one either. But why are they immoral?

[bamesjond0069]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 because they only work out of dysfunction. If you're Christian they are also explicitly opposite to the Bibles direction.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

No I am not Christian. Why they only work out of dysfunction?

[bamesjond0069]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 well think of an awesome guy. One you want to be friends with and stuff. Now think of a guy who is in a FLR which doesn't have to but often turns into cuckoldry eventually. Just stereotypically imagine that man now. Do these men share the same characteristics in your mind? Id guess hell no. Sure not all not all not all but definitely this applies to the vast majority of these couples. Women are usually not logical so you have some wimp catering to her emotional whims with no check on her authority. How do you think this ends? Never any good.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

To say that those relationships turn to cuckoldry is an assumption.
You know the best guy in the world can be in a FLR right? I don't know anyone who is, but just because you let a woman lead doesn't make you less of a man.
Give a study that clearly states that women are less logical than men. You won't find any, that is a myth.
What any of that relates to dysfunction?

[bamesjond0069]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 it is an assumption based on numerous experiences watching people i know try this. Just because a group of scientists dont do a study on something doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Either your honest and worldy and can think things through or you're not.

As a man lets a woman control him, her sexual satisfaction decreases. This leads her to eventually suggest an open relationship or her cheating or leaving. You can find countless men talking about their experiences with this on gag and elsewhere. Simply not having a study to quote doesn't mean anything.

"Give a study that clearly states that women are less logical than men. You won't find any, that is a myth." Men and women both have emotions. Men generally not all not all not all can surpass their emotions with logic. He feels one way but acts another. Women generally not all not all not all have a very hard time doing this. And as per studies i know for a fact there are ones saying women generally not all not all not all are much higher in whats labeled neuroticism than men. Its not simply emotion but a grouping of negative emotions. This is generally what people are talking about when they say women are emotional and men are logical.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

I don't know any FLR. But I have seen guys here admitting they are and they say they are happy. So maybe it's just the people you know.

"As a man lets a woman control him, her sexual satisfaction decreases." Again assumptions. Many women are dominant in the bedroom and like it that way.

"He feels one way but acts another". Very well show me proof of this. I have done research on the matter and I can tell you that it is a myth. Just like the myth that male lions rule the pride. Check national geographic, the lionesses rule. Many people believe lions rule, doesn't mean they actualy do.

[bamesjond0069]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 "and they say they are happy." Its not a question of if they are happy. I can find you a heroin addict under a bridge thats happy. Its about knowing better. If a man never realized how a relationship can be or has poor self esteem and thinks this is how it should be or the only way it is, is he truly happy? Just as a heroin addicts forgotten what a normal life is like they find the drug the only joy in their life but me and you both know better.

"Many women are dominant in the bedroom and like it that way." If you say so. I've never met or even heard of one. I've heard women say this but I've also seen these same women cheat or try to cheat with a man who is dominant or ask for an open relationship. So i just dont believe it. If they were so happy why do the vast majority seem to want more? Yet submissive women usually dont?

"Very well show me proof of this." I sincerely doubt your honesty or am considering you are highly sheltered and haven't met many people in life if you're serious. Really? But here you go. Not trying to be rude but again really?

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3149680/
"The largest effect sizes were found for Neuroticism and Agreeableness. Unsurprisingly, Neuroticism and Agreeableness are the domains for which gender differences were significant and in the same direction for both underlying aspects."

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

But who tells you that a man in a FLR wasn't in a MLR before and this is what he wants? Just becaue it would never work for you and me doesn't mean it doesn't work for others.

Are you kidding me? There was literally a country composed of them.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Other_World_Kingdom

Neuroticism and Agreeableness have nothing to do with emotional thinking. Here:
www.researchgate.net/.../229062517_Are_Women_the_More_Emotional_Sex_Evidence_From_Emotional_Experiences_in_Social_Context

Basically women express their feeling more, but they don't act on those feelings more. They have as much control over them as we do, but we don't share them. That is all.

[bamesjond0069]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 "But who tells you that a man in a FLR wasn't in a MLR before and this is what he wants?" Most men I've both heard of and know of who do this are beta males. Not sure if you see the posts on gag by men claiming they cannot even get a date let alone a girlfriend. These are a big portion of men who end up in flrs simply because its all they can get. This a done out of desperation. Also like i said a heroin addict under a bridge will claim it works for them. doesn't mean it actually works for them. Submissive male behavior is both a sexual dysfunction and a sexual addiction, although one that involves little sex. This is where beta or cuck angst comes from. They have a sexual addiction and stoop to such low levels to get their satisfaction and learn to resent themselves and the woman and they blow the fuck up in explosive anger. This isn't healthy and its not normal for men.

Neuroticism is defined by a big long definition here is the relevant part from Britannica "... complete emotional chaos. Highly neurotic individuals tend to be labile (that is, subject to frequently changing emotions), anxious, tense, and withdrawn." Feeling happy sad anger at appropriate instances is not a problem, its wild mood swings and crippling anxiety which give women the reputation of being emotional. And i already provided data backing that up. "Neuroticism... ...[has] nothing to do with emotional thinking" try again, this literally is the exact psychological term that describes it. If it makes your bugaboo feel better ill just change my initial argument. Please only discuss this: "Women are usually neurotic so you have some wimp catering to her neurotic mood swings and anxiety with no check on her authority."

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

You say it's out of desperation, but you forget that different people like different things. There are many men that are very happy being the sub in their relationship. Is not just what they can get, is what they want. And no it's not dysfunctional it's perfectly normal.
Different people like different things, that's all.

Did you saw the other world? A literal little community that existed in Czech Republic where the women were the rulers? Everyone who was there, was there on their own free will. Both men and women.

In my language neurotic is associated with a disease, not a personality trait. Still I also gave you data as well. Study that showed women are not more emotional than men.
And I can also give you this
link.springer.com/.../978-1-4612-5743-1_13
Men succumb to their anger far more than women do. Anger is an emotion.

[bamesjond0069]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 well i have no interest in arguing about the word "emotional". Im 100% specifically talking about "neurotic" as defined in English as a personality trait primarily summed up as anxiety and mood swings.

Secondarily your studies you cite are essentially irrelevant. What does it matter if men experience anger more than women? Men BEHAVE in a more rational way regardless of their emotions. Feel free to find a study about that. We can cite numerous examples such as men are more likely to invest for future payoffs, a logical course of action. Women hardly invest compared to men. Highly illogical course of action. Men have a problem they make action steps, women prefer to vent to friends instead of solve the problem. Men as a whole make more logical behaviors. In casual expression people call this "men are logical women are emotional". But since English isn't your first language maybe you're not understanding the nuances. Oh another i forgot, women tend to vote for someone that they feel is a good leader, men tend to vote on specific stances. there's a million examples but if you dont see what im talking about at this point somethings just getting lost in translation and there is no point to continue.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

My studies are irrelevant but yours are not? I see. Actually when it comes to anger men don't control themselves and act in emotion more. That is what the study says.
Men and women are equally emotional. But women react with anxiety and men with anger. We have different responses to those emotions, but none is more emotional than the other. And neither makes good decisions while being ruled by emotions.

About men investing in future payoff. Statistically speaking men make better short term decisions and women make better long term decisions.

Being that most votes for extreme candidates come from men clearly they are not voting with logic.

[bamesjond0069]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 you clearly have an agenda and claim things that are not true. I won't bother responding again.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

Someone who is presenting you data has an agenda?

[bamesjond0069]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 you did not present any data regarding my post that women are more neurotic than men. I did post evidence of this.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

I didn't address the neurotic, but I have you two links, one that states how men let themselves to be controlled by anger. An emotion.
And another that explain how men and women are equally emotional, and act on those emotions equally, but simply express it different.

[bamesjond0069]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 i dont have much to say about that. My point has nothing to do with emotions. It has to do with Neuroticism.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

The conversation was about woman lee relationships. You said they lead with emotional and not reason and logic. That's where this is coming from

[bamesjond0069]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 i told you to ignore that. I was making my point more clear. "Neurotic people make horrific leaders." Please only argue this point. Everything i said above i take back because i dont think you understand how americans use the word emotional.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

Neurotic people don't make good leaders of course not. And neither do angry people.

[bamesjond0069]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 if you say so. Anger is a normal and healthy emotion. Anxiety and mood swings are not.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

Anger is what? Are you serious?

[bamesjond0069]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 yes. Maybe you should see a psychiatrist. If you dont express your anger in a healthy way you're bound to have serious emotional problems.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

But we are not talking about expressing anger in a healthy way. We are talking about when anger clouds your judgement. When it controls you.

[bamesjond0069]

@This_Is_My_Opinion8 since when?

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

Nevermind we are clearly not in the same page.

[mobiusforniner]

isn't that how they all are?

[bodiesands]

Weak men only please apply

[Heartache0405]

Never gonna happen. I’d rather die alone

[Anonymous]

Yeah, no. I have more self respect than that.

[This_Is_My_Opinion8]

No I am not. But to each their own.

[Anonymous]

Yes, and i love it.

[htmndg183]

How did you end up in it?

[Opinion Owner]

I looked for a girl who was a dominant and liked control, total power exchange. We dated and she told me "this is how it will be if you're with me", and i said i accept. She is hot, smart, demanding and in charge, and i love Her.

[htmndg183]

Nice. Kind of exactly what im looking for.

[Opinion Owner]

Go to a bdsm dating site, or post an ad that you seek an FLR.

[htmndg183]

Is that how you found her?

[Opinion Owner]

For the most part, yes.

[Anonymous]

Not here, but looking for one.

[MelonSoda]

What is that

[htmndg183]

It is what it says it is. A relationship in which the woman calls the shots. Has the dominant role. Has the final say in all matters.

[MelonSoda]

Oh. Then my thoughts on the matter are that I would prefer if things were equal. Not a man having the say so for everything and not the female. Both people be on equal terms when it comes to power within the relationship.

[Guardian45]

Splain Lucy!

[Anonymous]

Yes I like it

[htmndg183]

Please do elaborate.