Why do some women think it’s wrong for a man to not want to date anyone?

[Anonymous]

[VanillaSalt]

Why do you care? I don’t really wanna know I just want you to think about why you care what these women you DONT WANT think about you.


A lot of these men that say “they don’t care” or they “don’t simp” actually do. And a lot of these women saying “they don’t need no man” actually are extremely angry they don’t have one and their not good enough to keep one.


The answer to your question is… Because it interferes with what they want. These women claiming to not want a man may not be dumping for one but they also won’t chase away a good man that happens to fall into their lives… Many dominate women will serve a good man and many alpha men will simp for the right lady… Human beings are hypocrisy incarnate. We rarely say what we want because it will be used against us… we even more rarely even KNOW what we want until we lose it or we see it intimately woven into our lives.


If a woman tell a man exactly what she wants he’ll almost definitely use it to get sex. If a man wants a woman and is clear about it she’ll look down on him as needy and move on. Ironically women want men to desire them and men want women they clearly understand and yet we fuck ourselves so spectacularly!

[Asker]

Well no I have had a woman old enough to be my mother push me to date, and another woman also did the same thing

[VanillaSalt]

There’s a side of people that actually care about others and think they know best for them. But that’s no different then men telling women their gonna die alone. I firmly believe being alone will kill you quicker and women will suffer much more this generation then every before but that’s for them to decide. Just like you’ll suffer and die alone and you get as well for the same reason.

[Asker]

That is fine with me

[ObscuredBeyond]

Because when some women lose a moral debate on something more intelligent, and have no leg to stand on, but won't admit defeat, defaulting to measuring another's entire life worth based only on perceived sexual prowess or sexual market value becomes the go-to petty way to insult someone, and assure one's self of some false sense of security, as a feeble-minded way of saying: "Therefore, I don't have to pay heed to anything you just said!".

Hoes typically resort to such ad hominem logic, since they were corrupted as minors very early on, and can't comprehend existence much outside of sex. So when they try to defend some morally reprehensible and indefensible thing, and I have a counter for every cliche they spew, they immediately:.

1. Attack my looks, and claim I have "the face of a rapist."
2. Assume I've never been with anyone, and never will be with anyone. (Pick a lane, bitch!)
3. Claim I need institutionalization before I go full Elliot Roger.

Almost always in that order, like they're all reading from the exact same script.

Women like that are the scum the earth.

[Smoke-n-Growls]

For the same reason some men think a woman's only purpose is to bear children - they're kinda dumb, lack real world experience, and parrot social expectations without any deeper consideration as to whether or not they're true.

Some people are just wrong.

[LinkxPeach]

But, some women do just want to bear children. Look at Black women, and Japanese women.

[Smoke-n-Growls]

There are childfree Black and Japanese women. What are you talking about?

[LinkxPeach]

There is some statistics that says, “over 70% of Black women are single mothers.” Japanese women only want to sleep with guys to have kids with them.

[Smoke-n-Growls]

Riiiight.

Sure.

Well, that's bully for them, then. But there's still gonna be women who don't want kids. I'm gonna stick with them, cause that's where I'm at. Never wanted kids, and I'm sterile.

It's totally cool if someone wants kids. It's also totally cool if someone doesn't want kids.

Kids should only be conceived or adopted if both parents are really certain they want that kid. Otherwise, it's one fucking hell of an inconsiderate act to hoist life onto a child when you're not ready as the parents to care for it.

[LinkxPeach]

What do you mean by, “bully for them”? It’s not okay to force people to have kids with them.

[Smoke-n-Growls]

Bully for them is another way to say "good for them". Not actually bullying them.

[LinkxPeach]

Well, they’re sluts.

[Smoke-n-Growls]

Lol, so low effort man.

Just because no one wants to sleep with you, doesn't mean they're sluts. It means they have taste, and standards. 😉

[LinkxPeach]

But, if they only sleeping with you to have kids. Then, they’re sluts.

[Smoke-n-Growls]

Lol, how the fuck else are they gonna get pregnant? Immaculate conception? 🤣

Of fucking course you need to have sex to have a child. Did you not get sex education as a teenager?

[LinkxPeach]

So, your saying that, “some women only have want to used sex to have kids.”

[EllaNella]

same goes for some men who can't imagine a woman seeking anything else than a husband in life.
some people seem to think that individuals only unlock their complete worth as a person once they have a partner. which is bullshit obviously

[VanillaSalt]

I argue that’s true. Without children we have no future. A man that becomes a billionaire that has no children leaves his wealth to nobody. A woman whom never has kids is forgotten after she dies. Switch the sexes idc the point is without kids you have no legacy. Your life is nothing but a selfish push for your own goals.

[EllaNella]

isn't it a little selfish to only have kids to have a legacy though? don't get me wrong, i would never judge anyone for having children but there are other ways to imprint on the world.
and there is no reason to want to be remembered aparz from selfishness either. you can live a good life, make people happy, do small things to better the days of your family, friends and neighbours and be forgotten half a generation after your death. would you still call that life wasted? would you say that person achieved nothing because they didn't pass on their DNA?
There are so many ways to find a personal meaning in life and for me it's about making those that i know happy, being nice, leading a life that isn't too much of a strain on mother earth and going into a field of work that i find useful and necessary.
I love my partner and he makes me the happiest i have been but i do not need him to give my life meaning

[VanillaSalt]

Having meaning and having someone complete you are two different things… and the biggest point I make is this. If everyone decided not to have kids society ends. Society gives women, the weaker sex, their freedom and equality. It allows men and women to only work 8 hours a day and still survive. It gives us power, plumbing, clean water, easy food, security…

If government and law just fell apart do you think you’d be free? Most men wouldn’t be free from the oppression of other men so young fertile women…

All the good things about our countries only because we created our society. We owe it to our society and those that came before us to further that society.

[EllaNella]

the birth rate is stable. individuals do not need to worry about having children, there will always be enough other people who want them. there are other things that are a way bigger concern for society as you put it

[VanillaSalt]

Um no the birth rate is not stable… for the first time ever average lifespan for Americans went down, fertility rates are dropping across the world, people are divided and don’t trust each other… also to be clear. We don’t need to go 20 years without children. Just going a couple of years with a lower birth rate can drastically effect taxes and our lives. When your 70 and the taxes for your retirement has dried up. Children are an investment. For society and for you.

[VanillaSalt]

I wish I had a time machine. I wanna know what’s in store for these women that claim they don’t need a man or want kids.

I wonder what meaning they will get with their lives.

[EllaNella]

lol dude why are you so resentful
the US population size is increasing. there is no need for people who don't want children to get any.

[Sonorous]

I'm technically mgtow but for unconventional reasons. I'm a reasonable mgtow though, so I realize that my beliefs & values could change over time, leading me to no longer be mgtow. It's why I like to say I'm likely a temporary mgtow.

And I once spoke to a woman on here who was worried for me missing out or having regrets. She said that it's better to make mistakes than to regret acting. And that's where I disagreed because I don't value the same things she did/would. But I didn't disagree with her for the present moment because I don't know what the future holds.

She could be right. But as of now, I don't want to make mistakes. So I'm avoiding it like my life depends on it. Because it just might. 😶

I really am built different though 💅

[MCheetah]

Because SOME women expect to have their asses kissed at all times. That's why they hate movements like MGTOW so much, even though these men are actively telling you they do NOT want to date or marry anyone, which you'd think these women would be overjoyed about. But no, the minute a man says "I don't want to be a wage slave to a woman who can divorce me and take half my sh*t for life, at any given moment," it's "sexism and misogyny." Good thing I don't take these idiots seriously.

And for what it's worth, I'm not MGTOW and would be open to dating the right woman, if they actually existed for me. But yeah, some women expect men to be subservient to them.

[Moose304]

I am 64, I have not dated exclusively since I graduated from Georgia Tech. I am with women a lot. There are a lot of reasons this is happening. One of the primary reasons is more and more males are finding the decks are stacked against them in family courts and places like marriage counseling. I am NOT MGTOW, I also don't keep blue and red pills in my medicine cabinet! I have however sat over the years watching males crying after having their lives destroyed by a female. Men are learning from the experiences of other men and simply are not engaging in exclusive relationships. So this leaves a lot of females that start to get close to 30 and they see no men in their lives. If it were not so sad it would be funny watching these 30-somethings make fools out of themselves in bars and other places where they think they will snag a man!

[cth96190]

Because women do not want to see potential economic support units exit the game.
On an instinctive level, women see every man who chooses to not interact with females as a personal affront.
“How dare me not want me.”
Women have a collective hive mind, rather like the Borg.

When the Feminist created mentality of modern women is combined with a legal system that has been re-engineered to destroy men, the only way for men to win is to not play the game.
Invest in manufacturers of cat food and cat toys.
MGTOW monk for 21 years.

[Slartybartfast]

Women "I've been treated horribly and abused by men and don't wish to date anymore "
Reaction.. support, community, compassion.

Men "I've been treated horribly and abused by women and don't wish to date anymore."

Reaction.. dismissal, insults, and accusations.

You can find this right here on gag.

[Zeus_66]

You talking about the same women that are wondering why many men these days don't want to get married because most men have literally nothing to gain from it (children excluded). Too many risks for men to date and get married these days. That's just the way it is. TikTok all the vids you'd like on this subject, in case you've never seen them.

[Asker]

Yes I have been married twice , never again

[Zeus_66]

Good for you. Hope it is working out. Can't blame you for your stance. I've been blessed with a wonderful wife. I'm lucky.

[Asker]

Yeah thank you

[Yotth]

It's not like I'm a single guy but that doesn't mean I'm bad All this is the thinking of the people of the society, they understand that the boy or girl should get married soon, but today's boys and girls do it according to their choice. But if someone is not getting or is not getting a boy or girl of his choice, then for this reason he has stopped dating.

[Asker]

I got married twice in my 20s, never again

[Yotth]

As per your choice or family pressure

[Asker]

Both, I was looking for someone of my own ethnicity and so were my parents, and I did. I got married with them. And they both failed.

[Creampiekarl420]

Nobody talks about this but women they are very entitled that’s why average looking women think they can get the best men I’ve noticed that trend with women they usually date or fuck men that are considered very attractive and wonder why those men don’t want them or hurt them

[Guy13]

I don’t get that either. Women just don’t want to hear 👂 No Thank You. And then they want you to go nuts SO they can justify why I don’t want to have anything to do with her…. KEEP your emotional reaction dead…

[Anonymous]

Literally NO woman cares about this. None. Do you know why? Because they're not INTERESTED in dating dudes who aren't into dating chicks.

It goes even beyond THAT though. They're not interested in guys who ARE interested in dating but are too chickenshit to make it happen.

Why? Because it turns out that hetero women want to date MEN!

[mark000h]

Big time brave Mr Anonymous 😂

[Asker]

That is a fucking lie, I worked with women who kept trying to push me to date someone

[Chazmatazz269]

Who cares? Men have the same right as women have to choose who we’re going to prioritize in our lives. This includes choosing to prioritize ourselves at any time we please. Why anyone might think that’s wrong matters not at all.

[WhitneySnow]

It’s not wrong it’s his right but I don’t like that these guys still expect to have casual sex with girls while considering us not good enough to be a real girlfriend

[Exterminatore]

Why? Because they’re getting sex without providing security in return?

[WhitneySnow]

@Exterminatore well they wouldn’t get it from me (if I were old enough and single). I’m not gonna do the hookup thing.

[VanillaSalt]

Your mixed up there girly. Sex is not a right. Don’t look at it as such or you’ll mess up your outlook.

Men and women value many things including sex differently. If you understand this then you can understand why a woman’s good enough for sex but not as a girlfriend.

[Exterminatore]

@whitney

I’m just curious why you seem to be against the idea of a girl being good enough for sex but not for being a girlfriend?

Some girls aren’t girlfriend material.

[WhitneySnow]

@Exterminatore cause it makes girls feel cheap to just be used for sex. Like I said, I would never do that.

[Exterminatore]

@whittney

Who is being used in such a case? Both parties had needs. Both got their needs met. Who got used? Unless the guy lied about his intentions. Why the need to extract commitment to not feel cheap about sex?

I’m not arguing with you, just interested in understanding why this is so.

It seems to me women feel they must extract something from a man to justify having had sex with him. Why not have sex for the sake of sex?

It seems like many women think their vagina has lots of value and something should be acquired in exchange for access. Yet, vaginas are remarkably common. About 1 out of every 2 people on the planet has one.

Please excuse me if I seem crude. I’m not trying to be offensive nor argumentative. Just curious to hear why women think this way.

I’m devoutly religious but was not always so. I take God’s view that sex Is for within the bounds of marriage. So I don’t support having sex otherwise as it would be defined as sin. That’s my own personal views. Not trying to preach at you either. I just wanted to explain my position.

I’m sure you’d never do that as you stated. I don’t doubt you.

[WhitneySnow]

@Exterminatore I do see kissing me and getting sexual with me as something really valuable. I don’t trade it for anything (that would be a sin and immoral, though that’s only my personal belief and I don’t judge those who do), but I wouldn’t give it away to anyone unless I really like them. I can’t speak for girls in general. This is just me. But I will say that even girls who have sex with a guy just for sex usually end up falling for him a lot of times.

[Exterminatore]

Thanks for explaining your view points. I think you are right. Often girls fall for guys they sleep with.

I have not always lived the views I now hold. I had a lot of causal sex when I was younger. I would always be up front in that I was not looking for a relationship. Many girls agreed to those terms but I suspect they weren’t being honest. Often they’d want more and become attached.

It seems most women are not geared towards no strings attached sex.

From what I have read, roughly 50% of the population is able to have casual sex and roughly the other 50% need there to be feelings or a relationship.

I suspect that that figure is probably lower when it comes to women. That’s not to say women never have one night stands or never are fine with a casual relationship. It just seems to me many women are not able to do this. I think some think they can and realize they can’t. I think others say they’re fine with that type of arrangement but really intend to try to turn it into a relationship.

[WhitneySnow]

@Exterminatore I think you’re not wrong

[Exterminatore]

Thank you. I enjoyed this conversation.

[WhitneySnow]

@Exterminatore me too

[Aerissa_Jade]

I don't think its a bad thing or wrong, I say good for him.

[Asker]

It never should be someone else’s problem if I date, how would that woman feel if I do the same to her?

[Anonymous]

i don't think it's wrong. actually i don't give a fuck about what others do or don't do. the people that do just want something to talk about because they are bored with their own lives.

[Asker]

You don’t care but the women I worked with did care

[Asker]

I'm glad you don't care, that's how it should be

[Anonymous]

Some women probably like that man in particular but can’t accept the fact that the man doesn’t want anything with them or anyone and would rather stay acquaintances. Or they just automatically assume they’re gay.

[Asker]

Yeah you got it right they just assume you are gay cause you don’t like anyone, but if they are bored with their life they shouldn’t project their hatred to me, my life is none of their business

[ChrisMaster69]

I don’t think anyone cares if someone does not date anyone.

from a guys point of view, the more guys that don’t want to date is a bonus.

[Asker]

The people that I worked with seemed to care

[Kabluie]

Jealousy they can't have you, but anyone can always see as many people as you like without committing too.

[Asker]

Awww they are jealous huh poor babies

[Asker]

But yeah I agree

[FilmGuy93]

Women have a vested interest in men wanting to date them. If nothing else, it makes them feel more desirable.

[Asker]

Why does everything have to revolve around entitled women?

[Asker]

But yeah I agree

[FilmGuy93]

Because they throw a temper tantrum when they don't get their way, and everyone who isn't sick of their shit will placate them just to shut them up

[Jamesshinobi]

because they base most of their identity on dating. thats why they always have to "get to know themselves" when there is someone else they want to fuck.

[Asker]

Who cares if their identity is on dating, they shouldn’t intervene in other people’s lives

[Asker]

But yeah you right

[Wild_princess]

Seriously who cares if you date anyone or not... thats your choice🙄

[Asker]

Go tell that to the women that did care

[Wild_princess]

Dude, women have really important things to do rather than telling someone what to do with their life😐

[Asker]

My co-workers cared and pushed me to date, and called me gay cause I didn't want to

[cyclekarl]

I have never heard this before but speaking personally I have never dated not because I never wanted to but because I never got the chance. I am now 54 and am no longer interested in women besides I think 54 is too old to start dating.

[Adronicus]

The only ones who think this are the ones that feel entitled to your time / attention.

[Asker]

Good for them, some women are so entitled it is just plain ridiculous

[Adronicus]

I agree & actually encourage men to take some time working on themselves before ever considering settling down. Just remember, bad sorts themselves out if you let them.

[Asker]

I got married twice and I won’t do it again. Women just add trouble to my life

[Adronicus]

Something I've never done & probably never will. I've seen enough casualties to learn from others experience & the statistics are HORRID.

[Kereology]

I really don't see the problem, unless she wanted you. If she didn't want you, then good, one less man to reject.

[aliiiek]

They don't think its wrong for short ugly poor men to quit dating , they say its wrong for handsome successful tall man to quit dating , remember that

[Asker]

I am 5'8 but the women I worked with pushed me to date,. As soon as I told them I don't want to date anyone, they called me gay

[Asker]

You are from Iran but tAlking shit like this, and I am assuming you are defending western women? That is sad

[Asker]

Cause you said tall

[aliiiek]

Dude , im not defending western woman , im dealing with this shit right here (far worst then us and western country) , but you know what reality is , the reality is if a men is not attractive (with money , height , statuse , looks ) if he dise only his mom cry over him , this is the red pill that i swallowed , solution for me is lookmaxxxing , dickmaxxxing , money maxxxing , or even height maxxxing , and game maxxxing , for that i need surgery , for surgery i need money , for money i need to work hard and smart , see the key is not to get emotional and play with it , i want to have my fun and then go mgtow for life , good for you if you attractive enough so woman want to date you at work , i dont have that option yet.

[Asker]

Ok i get it

[FreyaRed]

His body, his choice.

[Asker]

Good

[GreatnessBack]

Those women are so hard up for someone, they can't fathom the possibility that a person just doesn't want to do that.

[Jamie05rhs]

Because they're adDICKted and they don't want their options to shrink.

[Asker]

Who cares? They are not the people to intervene in other people's business

[Jamie05rhs]

I agree with you.

[Anonymous]

Because of the resources that can't gain access to as well as being a sub-serviant wretch

[Asker]

Yeah probably

[Anonymous]

Simple. It's because they are sexist as the men who say that to women. 😊👍

[Asker]

Yea true

[bootieclapper9000]

they believe they are to good to not date entitltement

[Anonymous]

If some women think it’s wrong for a man to not want to date anyone, all they see is resources that no woman has access to, this is becoming more common as more guys are not worth the time and money.

[Opinion Owner]

Edit of the above post correcting some errors;
If some women think it’s wrong for a man to not want to date anyone, all they see is resources that no woman has access to walking away, this is becoming more common as more guys see that women are not worth the time and money.

[RuthlessAggression]

Why do men think it's wrong for a woman to not want to date anyone?

[Anonymous]

When you're short, trust me, no one is remotely bothered to even care if you date or not.

[Asker]

Go tell that to the women I worked with

[Asker]

I am not sure if 5’8 is short but according to you it is so believe what you wAnt

[Anonymous]

They're women lol, you really think they're capable of using common sense that more and more men think that women are a waste of time and money?

Peace, silence and gainz > Holes

[Xoxocutekitty]

Better for the rest of us

[Asker]

What do you mean by that

[nitsuj86]

Who has ever said this?

[Asker]

The people I worked with

[nitsuj86]

People who can't be alone, don't understand those that have no issue with it.

[lightbulb27]

because it's selfish, but it's reality as well.

[Asker]

But whenever women divorce and take away money from husband , that is not selfish?

[lightbulb27]

It is, but it feels good... can be emotional sometimes.
Did anyone say life is fair? They want something... need, to complete their lives... and have a clock ticking you don't. Reality of all the stress and prior emotional damage may take it's toll. It's not easy...

I've not personally seen women divorcing and taking away $ unfairly to the contrary, been very reasonable mostly.

[exitseven]

Misery loves company?

[LovingLoverReturned]

Cause they crazy 😜

[BazookaTrouper]

Cause they bad people

[LovingLoverReturned]

@BazookaTrouper I'm sure you know them personally.

[Exterminatore]

Yes.

[baserunner611]

? I have not answer

[saarisrael]

I dont know