Why do men get mad when women like tall guys?

[Haha456]

when men only want to date women in their 20s?

[Mia-Wallace]

Men 6'1 and above are a rather small percentage of all men in the world. More of them exist in Nordic countries but even here they're not the majority.

Men in my family are mostly tall (6' and above), my dad is 6'4', and my Ex was 5'9. Not short, but not tall either. Rather average.

Date who you want to, but there are 2 issues I can point out:

1. You're limiting your dating pool artificially and it'll be a very notable decrease. There are tall men, but you'll be fighting with a lot of other women to catch their attention.

2. If your own family are average in height and you are short yourself, everyone can see the hypocrisy in your standards, including those tall guys.

There was this girl at uni who had a bald dad and a balding brother (a great guy, her bro) but she talked about a balding guy in our team (another decent guy) calling him names behind his back. After a few times hearing her nonsense we reminded her that she's carrying her dad's balding genes, and we did it in an unpleasant way. I didn't feel sorry for her at all.

It's kind of the same thing with short girls from average-height families (aka most girls) when they obsess over tall guys. As a girl who grew up with tall guys, it just gets annoying hearing about their fetish all over the net or IRL.

P. s. one misconception is that tallness makes a man "dominant". Everyone who practices BDSM, however, knows that's nonsense.

[Haha456]

tall men make girls feel more protective. it has less to do with being dominant but rather protecting. Women are evolutionarily designed to want to be protected. Personally for me my ideal height for a spouse is 6'3. I'm 5'4

[Mia-Wallace]

Yeah. I'm 170 cm. Definitely taller than you and my husband is 6'2", not 6'3". Even my guy with all his features wouldn't be enough for you, would he? Lmfao

My Ex literally "protected" me as a teenager before we got together. As I said, he was just 5 cm taller than me.

I don't really care. Do whatever you want. You do, however, sound like a woman who will end up as an old spinster rather than woman married to her "tall dream guy". 🤷‍♀️

[Haha456]

Some girls can get guys over 6'3. Don't be jealous

[Mia-Wallace]

It starting to feel like you're a troll.

[LexiXide]

Because they're jealous cause they're like midgets

[Anonymous]

I don't get mad, but I am 6'1, so I never came across that problem in my life. I don't want a 30 year old woman. They have a shit ton of baggage and they've been used by other men. My girlfriend is 20 and I am 29 and she's a virgin till marriage who is fertile and can give birth to healthy kids.

What would I want with some old hag who can only give me downy babies? I want healthy kids with no down syndrome or autism. I get money so I can have standards just like you.

I never had problems with money in my life and I generate a passive income. A 30 year old woman is for the bottom of the self type of guys and not me.

Nature mad it so men are attracted to youth and beauty because old women can have kids with birth defects. If women didn't have a biological clock then wouldn't matter what age she is. But that's reality to ensure the survival of the human race we need healthy smart and intelligent humans. I am sorry that's the way it is. Nature sucks. So sad, too bad.

[Subarugirl]

You do realize that the chances of having a child with Down syndrome only goes up to 1% by the time you’re 40 right? Before that it’s.5%…. It’s fear monger if used to profile off of peoples fear… other that that birth defects or generally genetic conditions and age doesn’t really impact that….

[Haha456]

you're only 29, of course you can get a woman in her 20s. It won't be the same case if you were 40. Young women don't tend to be attracted to old men either. I can tell you that as a young woman myself.

[Subarugirl]

Plenty of women are attracted to older men, but it’s typically because they have had a chance to grow into better human beings, the boy above is a prime example of what is unattractive to mature healthy adults, so naïve, inexperienced young women are easier pray

[Haha456]

@Subarugirl

sweetie, take a look at marraige statistics, Most common age gap is on average 3-5 years. Second highest age gap is under 10 years.

There is no evidence that women want men who are 10+ years older.

I like older men but not old men.

[Subarugirl]

I didn’t say old men…. I said older men

[Haha456]

@Subarugirl

Men lose their attractiveness as they approach and enter their 40s. As a girl myself, I've always liked older guys , such as 5-10 years older. But hair loss, wrinkles, weight gain, saggy balls will never be sexy to me. Just cuz I like older guys, it doesn't mean I am attracted to my old fat uncles or senior citizens.

[Subarugirl]

Respectfully attractiveness is subjective, everyone finds different things attractive. I'm glad you're not attracted to your uncles, that would be concerning.

[Haha456]

@Subarugirl

beauty is subjective. But we are talking about what the vast majority of the population finds attractive, not minor exceptions

[Opinion Owner]

@haha456 would you date him if he looked like liam neeson and had a sexy voice like him too?

[Opinion Owner]

https://youtu. be/lkrxAYCQi0Q they don't let me send links so I spaced it out.

[Haha456]

I like guys under 40. they tend to look way better.

[Subarugirl]

I am not arguing, the majority of heterosexual women prefer older men. Its not like that is uncommon knowledge lol

[Haha456]

@Subarugirl

my point is, "older" doesn't mean "old". There is a prime for men too. And trust me, its not when they're losing hair, growing wrinkles, gaining weight and saggy balls.

[Subarugirl]

Yes... you have said that several times, I think we all understand what you age preference is lol

[Haha456]

@Subarugirl

its general society's age preference. Humans have evolutionarily evolved to find youth attractive. Younger people tend to produce healthier offspring mentally and physically.

[Subarugirl]

Yes you've already stated that... many times lol

[Haha456]

@Subarugirl

trust me, I can say vast majority of guys on here don't have dating life, that's why they believe they get hotter as they approach 60.

[Subarugirl]

Lol why do you keep repeating your self? We all got it the fist time you made your point.

[TroyDT]

Some people, maybe most, get frustrated when they do not fit the preferences of the people they are pursuing. Height, weight, race, hair color, eye color, lack of muscles, too many muscles, too busty, not busty enough, derriere too large or too small, etc.

[TommyWiseau69]

This is an internet thing, trust me. Just go to any city. I've been to NYC many times. The only girls I see with tall guys are taller girls rather than shorter which makes sense. I always hear this shit like "short women like tall guys and tall guys like short women" crap but I've honestly never seen this in the masses. Even guys that are like 6'0 - 6'2 I usually see with girls at least 5'5, but its not due to height its because there's more girls that range. Really tall guys are with girls like 5'8. Literally like 95% of the couples I spot the guys are not tall.

[Anonymous]

Men don’t only want to date women in their 20’s.

A lot of it just comes down to time on the market. Once women are in their 30s and 40s them already having children becomes much more common—especially if they were hot. Why? Some other guy saw they were hot, busted a nut in them, and their marriage fell apart—but now they have a kid or kids who come with them. Yay.

So you get to possibly be a stepdad some kid hates to a wife who will “always put them first” while also dealing with her ex husband who has joint custody of the kids.

So is it really that questionable for men to want to date, fuck, and marry a 20-something? Not really. In fact it makes a hell of a lot of sense.

But tall guys can what, do useful things like dunk a basketball? See over the heads of Japanese people while visiting Tokyo?

[Bluemax]

People get upset when they're excluded. I suspect it's generally only short men who get mad.

Women often get mad when men expres a preference for a certain body type. Getting upset at being excluded from dating preferences is not exclusively male.

[slatyb]

It's silly to be angry over other people's dating preferences. Reminds me of this from the Avett Brothers: "She's fighting with the sky... she thinks she can." Plenty of short men and plenty of women in their thirties, forties, fifties, and sixties find partners.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqUvCevmXAs

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[Pegases]

Same reason women get made when we say we don't like fat girls. It's preference, and when you don't fit the bill, some people get in their feelings.

[Haha456]

same reason why old guys get mad when women who are 15 years younger don't want to date them

[God_of_Thunder]

As a tall guy, myself, I have no idea. I just enjoy it, lol.

Incidentally, I also prefer women closer to my age, or even older. Women in their 20's just seem way too young, to me. I'd feel like a creepy old man.

[IAteTwoFullHams]

I prefer women in their 30s.

As I am 5'7", if a woman only wants tall guys, then I cannot date her. And since I cannot date her, there is no downside to being cruel to her.

[Haha456]

maybe its because a man your age will likely have nothing in common with some immature 25 yr old.

[IAteTwoFullHams]

That, and women in their thirties just plain look better to me.

[Haha456]

Many guys would disagree that women in their 30s look better. Maybe its something that changes with age.

[IAteTwoFullHams]

Well, sure, when I was 17 I thought women looked best from 15 to 19 and that a 20 year old woman looked kind of old and over the hill.

It definitely all changes with age.

[abc3643]

That's a little ridiculous.

Think about it:
Do you WANT to be with a woman who doesn't want to be with you?

Of course not.

Furthermore, as for you, for every woman who might reject you for being less than average in height, there are plenty of women who are fine with your height.

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The rejected should just accept it and move on. That's the mature thing to do. And if the rejected are upset about it, then that just reinforces the rejector's belief that s/he made the right decision because, on top of the initial reasons for the rejection of the rejected, the rejected is immature.

After all, we all reject people for whatever reason and we don't want them mad at us because of it. It's just a fundamental difference in desires and available features. It's natural.

[Haha456]

@IAteTwoFullHams

When I was in high school, none of the boys were interested in the high school girls. They were all into college girls. When I was in college, I attracted a lot of high school boys attention but I was never interested.

[IAteTwoFullHams]

Well... that definitely wasn't my personal experience. When I was in high school, all the senior guys wanted a sophomore girlfriend. It was seen as really normal and typical to date someone a couple years younger than you.

[Haha456]

I've read from an article somewhere many years ago that said that high school boys tend to be most attracted to women 20-24. Then as these boys enter their 20s, they start looking at girls a few years younger than them.

[Haha456]

I'm currently with a man who is 2 years younger than me. I'm 27 and he is 25. Our 2 yr age difference means nothing. Up until a certain point, a few years age difference really doesn't mean anything.

[IAteTwoFullHams]

Well, maybe there's some observed trend there, or maybe the article was just making it up.

We all know that for every trend line there are exceptions all over the place. When I go on Reddit, there are tons of 19 year old guys asking "Where can I find a MILF"?

And I have to break it to them that they probably can't, because it's very very unusual for women in their thirties to date a teenager.

[Haha456]

teenage guys like college age girls. As men enter their 20s, they start preferring women a few years younger.

You also need to understand that high school boys dating scene is limited to what is inside their school walls. When you're a 17 yr old boy, you really don't have much access to college age girls. When I first started college, there were a lot of college aged boys breaking up with their younger high school girlfriends because college dating was so much better than high school dating.

[Haha456]

When I was in 15 in high school, most of the 16-17 yr old boys were checking out girls 19-23 the most. And my guess is that girls over 18 tend to be more physically developed than teenaged girls. By this I mean they have wider hips, bigger breasts, look more like women rather than girls.

[IAteTwoFullHams]

Well, I think it's really normal for any guy that age to break up with someone who doesn't go to his school in favor of someone who does. He has a lot more access to the one he does, obviously.

I think the older a man gets, the broader his spectrum of attraction becomes. When I was 24, I wanted a woman who was between 22 and 25, and slim and fit. No exceptions.

And by 35 I was more like "damn, you know, I just like women."

[Haha456]

For me personally, I only like guys in their late 20s to mid 30s. I don't think that is ever gonna change. I don't look forward to dating in my mid 30s to 50s. Because guys don't usually tend to like dating older women.

[IAteTwoFullHams]

I think it will definitely change. Do you mean to tell me that if you started dating a 30 year old man today, you'll have lost all your attraction to him in eight years because he's now out of his mid 30s?

[Haha456]

Biologically we, humans, are evolutionarily designed to be attracted to youth. Younger people tend to produce better offspring. When we take a look at magazine covers, we never see old people, we always see young people posing. If you take a look at porn, it only shows young people 95% of the time. If you take a look at models, it will always be a young person who is likely thin and fit.

I think that old people tend to date old people mainly because they struggle to get young folks in their prime. And also they're not likely to have much in common with someone 15-25 years younger. I have seen women in their 40s marry guys who look like senior citizens. And I think its all just a form of settling.

[IAteTwoFullHams]

We must be watching different kinds of porn ;) I find that no matter what I search for, the word "stepmom" keeps coming up.

Our culture is super weird about age. Like, honestly, the best musicians are about 60 years old because they've been doing it their whole lives. But everyone acts like only a 20 year old can write a song, even though 99% of the time those songs are pure shit.

It's true that guys who are in "have children mode" are probably focusing on women in their late twenties to early thirties. They're super fertile. For most of our lives, though, we aren't in that mode.

[Haha456]

@IAteTwoFullHams

Not really. Even 46 yr old single dads refuse to date women around their own age. I've met quite a few of them. It has entirely to do with looks. But typically young women aren't interested in guys that old , especially if he is a single father. Its really not about what you want, its about what you can manage to get.

[Haha456]

The only reason why I can imagine a 40 something yr old woman marrying a man who looks like a senior citizen is if she absolutely cannot find someone around her own age. Men in their 40s don't tend to want to date women in their 40s. To a 55-63 yr old man, a 45 yr old woman is pretty hot. Thats how I see it.

[IAteTwoFullHams]

Well, if I could Weird Science a woman into existence (or Build-a-Bitch a woman, I suppose, is the more contemporary reference," and thus could "get" anything I wanted, she sure as heck wouldn't be in her twenties. I'd be aiming for around 34.

And I know you'd see a lot of diversity in the women getting designed that way. It's a really bad mistake to think that people mostly want the same thing and exceptions are rare. Exceptions tend to outnumber the adherence to any rules.

[Haha456]

Nobody will ever be attracted to senior citizens. Its a form of settling.

[IAteTwoFullHams]

Many senior citizens are attracted to senior citizens.

As the people you love age, the things you love about people evolve.

[Haha456]

do you realize how many senior citizens don't even want to date other senior citizens? I have spoken to a few 63 yr old men who refuse to date someone in her 60s

[IAteTwoFullHams]

And yet quite a few do. My mother-in-law is in her eighties and being relentlessly hit on by a fellow nursing home resident.

[Haha456]

i am aware folks at the elderly home have sex. but thats only cuz nobody else in the world would fuck them. they don't really have a choice. But the old lady next door is proximity

[IAteTwoFullHams]

I think it's just sad that you seem to live in this state of existence where you think there are Platonic Forms for ideal man and one ideal woman, and they have specific heights and weights and ages and races and body types, and that's what everybody wants, and therefore all life is just varying degrees of settling.

[Haha456]

If attractiveness really didn't matter, you would be dating a 60 yr old senior citizen. You wouldn't be aiming for women in their 30s. You can't hide such things, hun

[IAteTwoFullHams]

A few years ago I went out on dates with a 28 year old and a 50 year old, and I found them equally attractive and equally good in bed.

Yeah, 34 is about my sweet spot, but it's not the *only* spot. I mean, I think Lauren Graham remains one of the sexiest celebrities working today.

[Haha456]

You don't have to lie to keep up appearance. You and I both very well know that men dont tend to date older women.

[IAteTwoFullHams]

Believe me, if you look at my history, you'll see I have no interest in keeping up appearances. I'm a drunk and I hate both the political parties and I think most musical trends these days are utter shit.

I don't say I think Lauren Graham is sexy because I want to seem genteel. I say Lauren Graham is sexy because I want to put my dick in her.

[RavVid]

It's a fair point.

However I have known taller girls expressing anger at how short girls go after tall guys - and get them - when taller girls need them more.

[Haha456]

I've seen plenty of old guys get enraged when young women tell them the don't want 45 yr old men. But rather want 30 yr olds.

[RavVid]

I'm sure that happens but you sort of have to expect younger girls want younger guys. So it doesn't as a big surprise.

[Haha456]

Any reasonable man would understand that. But I've had many old guys lash out at me or call me names when i tell them im not interested in dating them.

[RavVid]

Uncalled for at best.

[MTC29]

I don't know. My SO's ex-husband is 6-2 and I'm 5-10. They are divorced and she hates his guts, but she likes me (I think).

Why should I care?

[BeMuse]

I don't care. You like what you like. I'll be tall for life. You only have a decade to be in your 20s.

[Haha456]

just because you're tall , it does not necessarily mean you can get women. You can be a wrinkly saggy fat old man and still be tall.

[BeMuse]

Sure, but it won't happen at 30. You already lost all your chips.

[Haha456]

you will start losing yours at 35 then officially hit the wall at 40. you're 32. you've just got a few more years to go.

[BeMuse]

You really have no clue what you're talking about, but it's funny that you're mad about someone not caring what your preference are and being completely unaffected by your hatred of men.

[Haha456]

you're not a woman so you do not know what women like. Men hit the wall by 40. this is true regardless if you like it or not. you do not look better at 40 than at 30

[BeMuse]

Well I'm over 35 and women are still very easy to attract. When I was 35 I literally had an 18 year old girls that was an 8 looks wise stalk me. She was attractive physically, but not attractive maturity wise. Like I said you have no idea what you're talking about. Attractive men have no problem attracting women. That said, the older you get, the less tolerant you get of young lady's behavior.

[Haha456]

do you really think you would get more young girls when you're in your 40s, losing hair, gaining weight, growing wrinkles, saggy balls? you don't think you will ever lose your looks? I'm not attracted to old men.

[Haha456]

Do you really think you will look 35 forever? Just give it another 10 years, no 18 yr old girl will look your way

[BeMuse]

Keep moving the goal post... But again you'd be wrong. You only gain weight if you eat more calories than you burn. Men that stay active stay thin and muscular. Women wrinkle long before men do. Most men don't even show wrinkles beyond something like crease of at the edge of their eyes or a small crease in their forehead until they get to their 60s. By your 60s most men start to becoming visibly old. Hair thinning can happen anytime, but as a person who has shaved his head most of his life, that never was a concern. Guys grey at different ages, some in their 20s others much later. From my family genetics I'll probably have most of the color of my hair into my 70s. Just is what it is... Men don't walk around with their balls hanging out to show off our cleavage. Not a thing. That said, men's balls sag our entire life. When it's cold, the testicles pull closer to the body. When it's hot they sag away from the body. The purpose is to regulate temperature so that our sperm stay healthy. That's an imaginary problem.

[Haha456]

@BeMuse

I will tell you about the truth and men's aging. A man's prime is late 20s to early 30s. By the time most men hit 35, they already have shown some signs of aging such as white hairs, bald spot. It only gets worse as they approach 40. By the time most guys hit 40, they start growing wrinkles, dull skin. By the time most guys hit 45, they already are gaining weight, getting saggy, wrinklier, continue losing hair, knee pain.

White men tend to age the worst compared to black or Asian men. By the time most white guys hit their late 40s, 90% of them look like shit. None of them are fuckable.

You keep talking about women hitting the wall at 30. Believe it or not, there are still plenty of women in their 30s who are still sexy as fuck. These women take care of themselves and their skin.

[Haha456]

Your sperm quality decreases as you age too. Studies have shown mens sperm is healthiest before the age of 25 and the worst at the age of 55. 35 is the age where men's sperm quality starts deteriorating.

[BeMuse]

I didn't talk about women at all. You did. I just accepted that you believe something and told you I will be tall for life. You do a lot of projection. It's pathetic. You ever had someone cold approach you in your own backyard and hit on you when you're covered in sweat and dirt? I have. I was 38. She was 26 and was a looker. You can make up all sorts of fantasies and project all your insecurities onto me and at the end of the day girls will still find me attractive. You won't change a thing.

[Haha456]

Vast majority of young women aren't dating guys 10+ years older.

wanna see the statistics?

[BeMuse]

Statistics don't change real world millage.

[Haha456]

Although in 2014 the average age difference in US heterosexual relationships was a relatively small 2.3 years, many couples have a much wider gap. In Western countries, around 8% of male-female couples have an age-gap of 10 years or more,

www.bbc.com/.../20220317-age-gaps-the-relationship-taboo-that-wont-die

[Haha456]

According to research and data of marriage records, vast majority of the world's marriages are under 10 years apart

www.pewresearch.org/.../

[BeMuse]

You're a poor listener too. The future looks grim for you.

[Haha456]

I'm sorry dude. I'm 26, I have no intentions of dating a guy over the age of 35. Not attracted to old guys. why would I get an old unattractive man with a bald spot if I am still surrounded by hot young guys around my age?

[BeMuse]

Like I said many times, I don't care about your preferences, you can want whatever you please. I'm not interested in you. That said, you are not the center of the universe, many women tend to be attracted to attractive men. Most women are attracted to men older than them. You pushing your insecurities about your faded youth on me, doesn't affect my experience.

[Haha456]

sweetie, vast majority of young women aren't interested in men 10+ years older. take a look at the data.

[BeMuse]

This is the hole in your argument, you tried to personalize the situation by using words like "you" out of anger. Thus, all statistics are irrelevant. The only valid source for data to back your argument would be my personal testimony, and I've already told you that you are wrong, thus you are wrong. You played yourself into a corner where you have no choice but to be wrong. There's no way to twist words to dig yourself out of that hole.

[BeMuse]

Lets quote you since you lack an organized mind. You did a lot of this sort of messaging “just because you're tall”, “You can be a wrinkly saggy fat old man and still be tall”, “you will start losing yours at 35”, “you've just got a few more years to go”, "you do not look better at 40 than at 30", “do you really think you would get more young girls when you're in your 40s”, '”you don't think you will ever lose your looks". When you based your position on a personal attack, you can’t use data from other people to prove your position. It doesn’t work that way. Thanks for playing. Checkmate.

[Haha456]

Its not a personal attack. Its the TRUTH. I'm NOT attracted to 40 yr old men.
Data shows young women tend to marry men around her own age too. I'm 26, and I only want to marry men under 35.

sounds like you're just butt hurt over the fact that women like handsome young men rather than old guys. you will hit the wall too. you just wait for it.

[BeMuse]

You're just wrong. Try to tread water all you want, you can't get out of your own wording.

[BeMuse]

You crafted a failed argument, because you are a failure.

[Haha456]

proof already shows I'm correct. you're just butt hurt.
you should start worrying about hitting the wall.

[BeMuse]

What proof is that exactly. We've already determined you tried a personal attack on me. My personal testimony has contradicted your argument. Hence the facts are against your position. Thus you are wrong. It's pretty simple cupcake, you didn't think things through.

[Haha456]

I have statistics are provided from very well known research institution.

vast majority of women are marrying men less than 10 years older than them.

being in denial won't change a thing

[Haha456]

Although in 2014 the average age difference in US heterosexual relationships was a relatively small 2.3 years, many couples have a much wider gap. In Western countries, around 8% of male-female couples have an age-gap of 10 years or more, 92% are less than 10 years apart.

www.bbc.com/.../20220317-age-gaps-the-relationship-taboo-that-wont-die

[Haha456]

www.pewresearch.org/.../

According to research and data of marriage records, vast majority of the world's marriages are under 10 years apart

[BeMuse]

The only statistics that apply to an individual (personal attack), are statistics on the individual. Do you have statistics on all the women who have or have not found me attractive at particular ages in my life? No, you don't... You don't even understand statistics.

[BeMuse]

This is the type of argument you are attempting to make. Around age 40, most people begin to experience a condition called presbyopia. Thus most people begin wearing reading glasses by this age. Thus YOU wear reading glasses. The fact is I do not wear any sort of glasses and still have very sharp vision.

[Haha456]

I'm not attracted to guys who hit the wall at 40. so go cry somewhere else. No amount of begging will ever change that

[BeMuse]

Here's a quote from me on the first line of this post "I don't care. You like what you like. I'll be tall for life. You only have a decade to be in your 20s.". Notice I have no concern for you whatsoever. You deluding yourself into believe I want you is just mental illness. I've shown total disregard for you the entire time.

[BeMuse]

*believing

[Haha456]

@BeMuse

so what? you only have 8 more years until 40 when you hit the wall. No hot young chicks would go for you again

[BeMuse]

You're so deluded...

[Haha456]

I'm not attracted to old guys. sorry.

[BeMuse]

The problem for you is no one cares what you want. You're deluding yourself into thinking you are more relevant than you are. You don't control people's relationships. You can only consent to the relationships you as one individual are willing to enter if and only if the other person will put up with your crap. You're a self center psychopath that thinks you control all of women and men, when in reality you only have half of a vote in one potential relationship. Things you disagree with will happen every day in millions of relationships and you have no say in that.

[Haha456]

sweetie, since when have young women been attracted to guys who are losing hair , gaining weight and growing wrinkles, saggy balls that don't work all the time?

[BeMuse]

There you go again with your geriatric fantasies.

[Haha456]

hahah you like to believe we girls like senior citizens or old fat uncles cuz you're afraid of hitting the wall at 40

[BeMuse]

You keep dreaming of 65 year old features in 40 year old men... That's your fantasy not mine.

[Haha456]

40 yr old men are not attractive. do you even know what the average 40 yr old man looks like? thats the age they start wrinkling, losing hair, muscle and getting fat.

[BeMuse]

There are "old guys" all around you doing way more than you ever will and getting way more attention than you... Here's a 43 year old... He still competes professionally. He was never considered a pretty boy, but he did spend his entire life outside in the sun (sun damage) and maybe has some crows feet when he's squinting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fakohrf7l7I

Here's a 50 year old who has been exposed to sun damage his entire life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a0YU63qIFmc

Here's a 40 year old with his tiny muscles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvmMzvoWRQw

But keep talking shit, it doesn't affect me. I was just at the beach 2 days ago and had women in their early 20s ogling me.

[BeMuse]

By the way average people are never attractive... That's why they are called average.

[Haha456]

which one is moer attractive? a younger man or older man :

30 yr old man:


45 yr old man:

[Haha456]

[But keep talking shit, it doesn't affect me. I was just at the beach 2 days ago and had women in their early 20s ogling me.]

haha. yea you can keep saying that while you're still young at 32. Lets see if they will still be ogling at you 10 years later. they likely won't

[BeMuse]

I already told you that I am 40. I will be 41 in a couple of months. You're dense as fuck. As far as who is more attractive, would all come down to the individual person. Attractive men will easily be more attractive at 40 than ugly guys are at 20. Attractive men are also not always at their peak physical form at any particular age. They might slack off and get fat in their late 20s and then get motivated and get ripped in their 30s to 40s and be overall more attractive.

[Haha456]

who is more attractive:
25 yr old man:



45 yr old man:



you're deluded if you think old men look better than young men

[BeMuse]

Comparing apples to oranges just shows your progressing mental illness. If you want to compare the age of a person and how attractive they are, you'd have to look at a specific individual over time. That can very depending on the person. That said, as men mature and get more confident they tend to land more women than they did when they were younger.

[Haha456]

@BeMuse

Vast majority of women need some type of physical attraction in order for a relationship to work. Nobody cares how mature you are if you look like shit.

[BeMuse]

You should go watch some body transformations where a young fat ass works out for like 5 years after getting motivated. They get older as they go along, but become more fit.

[Haha456]

I'm not attracted to old men. I like guys under 35.

[BeMuse]

It doesn't matter what you like. When you thought I was 32 you only liked 22 year olds. If you thought I was 22 you would only like 10 year olds. The bottom line is your tried to apply 65 year old traits to 40 year olds. I proved you wrong with valid examples. Get over it.

[vald9inches]

I don't know some guys feel like they should be able to have any and all women like its their right for whatever reason its kind of hypocritical because women also have preference just like how some guys like big boobs or butts

[MangoBob]

I don’t, tall guys make me laugh, they think they’re tough, start fights and then when i break their kneecaps they are crying like a bitch, on their knees , same height as me.

[Haha456]

im sure there are guys who are jealous. it happens to women too.

[MangoBob]

I am 5’8” and i dont really care you likes me or not for I AM SUPER ELF !

[Avicenna]

Some people will get mad about something, not all. And most men do not only want to date women in their 20s.

[Subarugirl]

Because it makes them feel inferior. A lot of guys have size complexes, so when they are told they are too short it’s hurts their ego, and when people are hurt they tend to react angrily.

[spartan55]

What men? I don't gaf who women prefer. Mad? Gimme a break.

[roy_ricky09]

That's BS... You like tall guys. Go for them then, why wasting a short or average guys time.
99% of guys are anyway taller than girls.

[Haha456]

Plenty of short guys under 5'10

[GlassTop]

I doubt guys get mad. Maybe some guy who has a crush on you is mad. I don’t care if women have preferences.

[Ghostluck]

Why do women get mad when guys don't like fat girls? The world is just full of little mysteries.

[Haha456]

some guys like fat girls.

[Ghostluck]

Some "desperate" guys like fat girls. Fixed that for ya. ;)

In all seriousness, some girls like short guys, there is always the variable.

[Haha456]

As a thick girl, I've met many guys over the years who told me they didn't like skinny women. One of them thought I was very gorgeous too.

[Haha456]

there are more men who are open to dating chubby women than women who are open to dating a short guy

[Haha456]

evolutionarily having a bit of fat , is important to the development of a baby. maybe this could be why some men prefer women who have a bit of meat on her.

[Ghostluck]

Well, when tall guys decide to stop dating short women, we'll see how they act about it, then that will help answer your question.

I can tell you this though, I have turned down many fat girls in my time, and not a single one ever took it lightly, in fact they were down right offended and had some choice words for me. And not once was I ever rude about it, I was simply honest about it and told them in the nicest way I could think of. People don't like rejection, no matter what the reasoning is.

[Haha456]

Doesn't matter if you don't like thick or fat girls. There are a lot of guys out there who are attracted to thicker girls. Men are more open to dating fat women than women are open to dating short guys

[Ghostluck]

Well then all I can say is enjoy your cake and eat it too while it still lasts. One thing I have learned in my 47 years of life, is that society has a way of changing things right when you least expect it. It may not always work in your favor.

[Haha456]

if you're 47 and still single, it pretty much means you have failed to find love and have a family throughout your life. The last thing that you should be shitting on are others. I'm 26 and have my entire life ahead of me to find love and create a family.

[Ghostluck]

Odd you assumed all of that noise about me based on almost zero information. You want to shit on short guys, something they have zero control over, and then have the balls to ask why they get upset about it, yet you don't want to be shit on about your weight, something that you actually can control? Get wrecked. Don't ask a question if you don't want the honest truth. Because I will straight up tell you what you don't want to hear every damn time.

[Haha456]

there was no truth to anything you're saying.

there are plenty of guys who told me they prefer a woman with some meat on their bones.

you think your own personal tastes are universal when they actually aren't.

[Ghostluck]

What is even more sad is that you actually believed them.

[Haha456]

because there is no reason why a man would chase a chubby girl if he wasn't attracted to her. And no, they're not desperate guys. Lotta them are thin, attractive young guys

[Ghostluck]

Tell me, if you are so confident in yourself and you have all these hot guys chasing you like you are some kind of goddess, then why is it you hide behind a generic avatar instead of posting your actual picture?

You see, guys are horny, if they think you are an easy target, they will indeed chase you and treat you just the way you want to be treated. Men have learned that fat girls put out a lot faster than skinny good looking girls. They are not attracted to fat girls, you're just easy. There is nothing hot about fat jiggling or the cellulite that comes with it. There is nothing hot about a girl who when she walks, her legs rub together. There is nothing how about any of that. Funny, women dump on short guys and dump on fat guys, but they expect to be free of criticism of their own height and weight? Yeah, society doesn't own me like it does others... I will tell it like it is.

[Haha456]

there was a time in my life where I had no guys chasing me at all. Throughout middle school and high school, no guys every hit on me or tried to talk to me. It only started when I was in college where I had all sorts of boys crushing on me or telling me that I am beautiful or pursuing me.

If a guy is chasing you, it means he finds you attractive.
beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
just because you think someone is average looking, someone else might find them gorgeous.
just because you find someone pretty, it does not mean every guy will find her pretty.

[MountAverage]

Either because they're short and butthurt, or because they get mad at almost anything women do.

[Staximus]

Because it's discriminatory? It's like not liking somebody because of their skin color, they can't change it.

[Fromdusktilldawn]

why do women get angry when asked about their weight

[Subarugirl]

Because it’s usually done in a way that’s intended to be insulting

[Haha456]

why do old guys get mad when women who are 15 years younger don't want to date them?

[Subarugirl]

Because the realization that having a penis doesn’t make you special and that preying on inexperienced women isn’t as easy as it used to be

[Haha456]

@Subarugirl

i've had a ton of old guys lash out at me for not wanting to date them.

evolutionarily, people have always been attracted to youth which are people in their 20s-30s

[RealDaveThomas]

I know lots of women who not only marry short men, but will have kids with them

you need to get off your high horse,

[DaddyDiablo]

Cuz they obviously don't know what that life is about lol

[MangoBob]

The shorter i am the closer i am to her “ goodies”

[TheFlak38]

Why do women get mad when men despise FAT women?

[Anonymous]

For the same reason women get triggered when men don’t want fat girls.

You can change your weight, you can’t change your height.

[Haha456]

you can't change your age either.

[Opinion Owner]

And women get insanely triggered when men want younger women.

[Opinion Owner]

They create massive social shaming and attack men for not wanting old expired females.

Men might call you shallow but society doesn’t try and force you to change your preferences

[Haha456]

so why do you get so triggered when I tell you I want a man who is 5'10" or above. I'm not attracted to midgets either.

[Opinion Owner]

I don’t.
Do what you want.

Some men might hate on you for it but whatever, just remember your stance when you hit the wall and guys tell you they want younger.

[Haha456]

Just because you want younger women, it doesn't mean you can get one.

I'm 26. I have no intentions of marrying any guy over the age of 35. I would take a 30 yr old over a 40 yr old any day

[Opinion Owner]

Just because you want tall doesn’t mean you can get one. You have to keep the weight down.

Men gain sexual power at 30, when women lose it at 30.

[Haha456]

men start signs of hitting the wall at 35. Then they officially hit the wall at 40.

you don't have that long before you hit the wall

[Opinion Owner]

Haha you wish.
Men get better with age, women age like milk.
Compare any female star with a male star.

[Haha456]

@Opinion owner,

you don't look more sexy as you start losing your hair , gaining weight, getting wrinkly, saggy balls and erectile dysfunction ok? keep dreaming how you look sexier as you approach senior citzen hood

[Opinion Owner]

You are taking the extreme and using it as the standard.

[Haha456]

most men start balding by the time they hit their mid 30s. they start wrinkling by the time they hit their early 40s. In mid 40s, most gain weight. In late 40s, they get saggy balls or their knee doesn't work or their dick stops working at times. It just gets worse as they enter 50s

[Haha456]

I like my guys tall, strong, muscular and fast with a full head of hair. Not some saggy wrinkly guy with balls that don't work all the time.

[Opinion Owner]

Old men don’t have trouble getting hard with 29 year olds, just with old ugly women.

A shaved head doesn’t look bad, so going bald is not an issue.

Men have thicker skin than women and therefore don’t wrinkle as quickly as women.

Your personal wants will slowly become impossible to get as your tits drag off your knees, your saddle bags get wider, your lunch lady arms start flapping, your face cracks can’t hide behind makeup anymore. Your vagina is like a walk in closet.

Trust that you will see men you used to date and they will still look good enough to be wanted while you hid because you look like a typical expired female.

[Haha456]

Empirical evidence has also accumulated in support of women's preferences for older men, and as you might expect, the data often overlap with those data supporting men's preferences. As this sample of Conroy-Beam and Buss's (2019) review suggests:

Cross-culturally, women report wanting partners who are (on average) 3.5 years older than them.
In online dating, women make the first contact with older men at a greater than rate they do younger men.
Marriage records show that women are marrying men who are older than they are by about 3 years.

www.psychologytoday.com/.../what-we-know-about-age-gaps-in-dating-love-and-marriage

[Haha456]

there's really no evidence young women are looking to marry guys 13 years older than them. Average age difference between married couples is 3 years

[MangoBob]

You can change your height and weight but both are expensive, painful medical proceedures.

[Haha456]

@MangoBob

you can't change your age

[MangoBob]

Yes i can, i can identify as any age i want, and if you disagree you are a racist, sexist, homophobic bigot.

[Haha456]

@MangoBob

im pretty sure you're not gonna look 30 forever.

[MangoBob]

If i had enough money i would, plastic surgery works wonders, look at Cher, she looks 40 when she's closer to 110

[MangoBob]

Funny thing is when you are face to face laying in bed there is no height difference, and all the plumbing lines up.

[MangoBob]

Honey i ran right through the wall, you want Earth shattering non stop teeth rattling sex, come see me.

[MangoBob]

🤣 age like milk ! Lol ! That’s hitting below the belt

[MangoBob]

Not necessarily, look at Nancy Pelosi face lift queen, one more face lift and her tits will be on her forehead.,

[Anonymous]

Because I'm a person not a piece of meat. It turns me off when I know a woman is attracted to my stature.

[msc545]

Same reason women get mad when men reject fat women.

[JesseJayNeak]

It’s not the rejection per sé but how they get rejected

[Pinay_ako]

🤣 right?

[Phoenix98]

We don’t, I could personally care less.

[bean2k21]

Because they're short

[KostasKouvalis]

Because it's not my fault I'm short

[Wise4myage]

I guess its an ego crusher.

[maximumpower]

We don't.
You need to find other guys.