I saw an article about this Asian women bragging on how she much money she saves by setting up dates just for meal, how low can you go?

[shades777]

Personally I've been used for meals, crazy right, but its true so I purposely spend the least possible because of a few women ruined it.

[RavVid]

Shades, we aren't in Kansas anymore.

A lot of guys believe in rainbows and unicorns and there are still some unicorn girls around but they are definitely an endangered species.

Quite simply a lot of girls have been running through guys from 12 yo and know their vagina is worth something. Penis in vagina is not something special that is done with a special guy anymore. It is done for a bed. Girls from the outer suburbs who come to the inner city for a night out will arrange overnight accommodation on the night. They pack overnight bags.

But the more things change the more things stay the same.

70+ years ago girls extracted the price of marriage for sex. Girls who broke that cartel operation were vilified as sluts - we know how vicious girls are, so that kept the sisterhood united for a long time.

To put this delicately, the human species is pair bonding. In every pair bonding species there is an exchange of resources for... ah... breeding opportunities. There is a spider species where the male spider spins a globe of silk to entice female spiders. For some spidery reason the female spider puts out for it. The male spider then tries to snatch it back to reuse. Equally the female spider tries to keep the silk globe without giving the breeding opportunity.

Much as we might not like it, this is where we are. On our local Married At First Sight, one of the brides was revealed as an Only Fans. She swears she stopped hooking while it was being filmed. Put her career on hold for a man. She is certainly cashing in now, going from the menu she has published.

For myself I like the outer suburban girl price point. A meal at an upmarket cafe with a bottle of wine and a comfortable bed over night.

I would say the old school way was better collectively for guys, gals and society but that is well defunct. Our task is to make sure the female doesn't just snatch the silk globe.

[shades777]

Funny how the less I spend the luckier I get

[RavVid]

That makes sense. It is incredibly important to women they can feel respect for you. I'd guess in that female mind they are thinking he could have spent more on me but so far I'm not worth it and he is not desperate so I better do better.

They'll think you are a desperate suck if you spend too much.

[shades777]

Thats funny, because everyones too much money is different. I wonder if they assume Im spending too much for what they're worth or what they assume I have that's disposable

[RavVid]

Everybody has different dollars. As you say it is your disposable income that counts after rent/mortgage electricity etc etc. You are making me think on the question :)

I guess they would always think I can afford what I am spending. If it was a flash place they would think I am trying to impress and power play that. If an entry level cafe then I'm not trying to impress and they are average.

Where I am, it's the bar where you can really ho through money and that's to be avoided because you are giving them a big (expensive) night out. Better to take them back home to share a fine bottle and music.

[DextroShade]

1 in 3 women polled admitted to doing this, it's shameful. That's why I think dudes who turn it around on them like the Tinder Swindler and the Dine-and-dash Dater are heroes.

[shades777]

Im all for women receiving equal pay if it means this type of crap will stop

[DextroShade]

That and them demanding that potential partners make more than they do.

[Smiling_Baby21]

For a person who has been out on a date and refused to order anything except for the Coke, I can proudly say, it's funny the things that people can do to save some little change that they will finally blow away on shopping things they don't actually need. So if there are things I can go low for, going on a date with a man to save on my meal bills isn't one of them.

[Billlewis]

She sounds like a fantastic lady...

[shades777]

she's the first example to publicly admit to it, women on here swear they never did it like their under oath

[shades777]

now i just figure if she selects something expensive she doesn't really like me