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How long does it take to train a woman to be a good girlfriend for you?
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+1 yI think if you have to train a woman to be a good girlfriend to you, then she's not really one that you should be with. Not to say that she wouldn't fuck up but if it's to the point that you're wondering how you can train her to be good for you, then you need to question if she's even one you should be bothering with.
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@superchan2011 Do successful companies train their employees?
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That's different than a relationship though. With a relationship the person should already be trying to be right for you without you having to train them to be right for you.
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@superchan2011 Only if you don't value yourself. Men who value themselves understand that woman are flawed and come w/ habits ingrained in them from outside factors non of which benifit you. Much like a fortune 500 company if you want a woman to be the best woman for you, it's your job to train them on what you like. If you don't train them, social media, or their friends will.
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Well guess what, it's not just women that are flawed like that. It's people too. People are flawed and while you can try to "train" them, their gonna do what they wanna do in the end. That's why I say that the person should come right when you first get with them. That doesn't mean perfect, that just means not incredibly fucked up. That has nothing to do with not valuing yourself, that's just the way things are.
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@superchan2011 I only date woman, and TBH I only keep them around if they are willing to he trained, I currently have 3 1/2 on the roster and all are better for me after having been trained which is all that's relevant. Sounds like you're still a bit inexperienced, how many woman have you been with?
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It's not about how many I've been with, I just happen to attract the headstrong type of woman. And I can tell you they won't allow themselves to be "trained" so to speak. Maybe you just have the submissive type that will go with the flow of whatever they are told to do.
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@superchan2011 Lol, that literally proves my point. Out of 400+ woman you don't think I've had the "headstrong" type? You can't really tell me anything because you don't have the experience, the same women that is headstrong to you would gladly submit to me. Remember its you that lacks the experience. If you're a strong Alpha man a woman will gladly submit you just have to improve yourself to learn this.
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You don't know anything about my experience. I've dated plenty of women and in my experience most people will only do what you tell them to do if their already wanting to anyway. Trying to change someone who doesn't want to change will be like banging your head against a brick wall. This is experience talking here, not just assumptions. I don't wanna waste my time on a woman who I have to try to mold into who I want them to be. You sound like you would be a very controlling person.
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@superchan2011 Isn't ironic that you brought yourself up mentioning the type of women you attract and are now hurt because someone judges you based on your own words? The experience your sharing is anecdotal and it's coming from a person who has admitted to settling for "headstrong" women. Sounds like the issue is that you haven't created enough value in yourself to get a woman willing to comply. Most women want a strong Type A man, that includes the same women you've struggled w/.
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And it sounds to me like your one of those controlling people who thinks they can impose their will on people like their running a damn puppet show when the simple truth is that you can't "train" or make someone do anything they don't already want to do anyway. And you sit here and talk about my experience with women like you really know when I have to wonder, all these women you say you can train to be how you want, how many of those women stayed with you? Or how many got tired of you trying to play the big man and play the alpha male and left. I'm a strong man, but what i'm not is a controlling man. Sounds like you need to work on that before you can have a successful relationship that actually lasts. So come back to me with advice when that actually happens.
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@superchan2011 I've already trained countless women successfully so not only is that false but it shows you're willing to make a belief based on feelings vs facts. It also shows your delusion as it's on me to get rid of the woman when I want to upgrade, men control who gets relationships. There's no advice to give, if you're happy being emasculated and having to beg women for permission than that is your prerogative and also going to keep you having limited success.
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I really don't know what world your living in but i'm going off of my real life experience, not some delusion as you put it. Quite frankly I don't want a woman that I have to train to be right, If I have to train her to be right then she's not right already which is a red flag. She needs to already come right. Most people won't change for you unless they want to. That's just how the world works. And how many of those women that you trained successfully stayed with you? Since you say plenty it sounds like many ended up leaving you. So I would rather find that one woman that I don't have to train that comes right from the beginning than successfully train many and lose many.
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Also I'm curious about something. Why did you ask how long it takes to train a woman to be a good girlfriend if you already have so much experience in the matter? Wouldn't you already know?
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@superchan2011 If you are willing to use your anecdotal evidence as reality it standa to reason that others will, as well. No one is interested in "what you want" they are interested in what they want. Obviously people change from training if not the world would only consist of infant behavior. The fact that you don't understand that it's me who discards the woman only proves why you should focus on training women to be valuable for you.
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@superchan2011 I asked the question to attempt to get answers for men who actually have success w/ women. Inevitably there will be guys like you who have never had a
success that will weigh in. This allows an objectionable person to see the difference between guys that understand this tactic va guys that don't. You've made a bunch of claims about why guys shouldn't train their women yet have very limited experience w/ woman. Proving by the fact that you can't provide a tangible number of ones you've been with. This proves that anyone following your uninformed strategy will probably end up like you. - +1 y
That might be the case that it's you who does the discarding but you're missing the whole point that yes while everybody is trained to an extent, by parents, by society or other loved ones at the same time we have free will to do whatever we please in the end, and guess what, that's usually what someone ends up doing at the end of the day, whatever they please. So my point is that if someone just happens to fall in line to what you want it was because they wanted it as well, not simply because you trained them. and that takes me back to my original point that if a woman is gonna be a good girlfriend to you then even if you tell them what you expect of them and lay down the ground rules, that they choose if their gonna be a good girlfriend. and me personally want someone who will fly right from the start.
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If you think that simply getting girls is success then guess what, I've had success too. The key is keeping a girl which it sounds like you're in the same boat as me then as you don't sound like you have a life partner. You can say that you dumped the women that wouldn't be trained but that's still a failure on your end. So we're both the same when it comes to that. We both had women but it didn't last. And guess what, the relationships I had ended because I ended them, like you. So if i'm unsuccessful based on that then you're also unsuccessful. I've had plenty of women pursue me without me even trying to pursue them first, but unlike you I didn't just jump on to every woman that gave me the opportunity because I want a woman with class, not a trash boat woman that you can just stick your dick in and then just throw her away like used tissue. Because a woman like that can be done that way by any man. You need to pick a woman with class. You know, one that doesn't need to be "trained" to act right.
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And also the fact that you came up with a number like 400 sounds made up as shit. You probably lied about how many women you fucked as do a lot of men. You probably only had sex with one. But yet talk about yourself like you're some damn hotshot. Well save that shit for some man that will be easily impressed and gulliable to believe anything he hears, because i'm not that guy. I've had a lot of women too, but i'm not about to pull some random number out of my ass like 400. come on dude, that sounds fake. SMH. And by the way how did you end up? With a bunch of women that you bedded but didn't keep? Sounds like a very successful man here, every man should listen to you on how to keep a woman even though it sounds like you never managed to yourself. Get a damn clue man.
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And another thing, you need to run into a woman that thinks she can train a man to be any kind of way. I would love to see if you could "train" them as you put it.
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@superchan2011 You contradicted your entire argument. If you recognize that people can be trained then, it shouldn't come as a surprise that women can be trained.
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@superchan2011 That's a female metric. A male metric is quanity. No man has ever become successful because he kept one girl however countless men have built empires on the backs of having numerous women. I never said anything about dumping a woman that couldn't be trained that's simply something you created because you understand your argument is flawed. We are not the same I've had sex w/ nearly 400 woman, you have had far fewer partners. Making the argument that simply because a women has sex w/ me makes her trash is an invalid argument and something created by you to cope w/ the fact that you have attracted far fewer women.
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@superchan2011 The fact that you believe that number is made up only validates your own inexperience w/ women. Only a LV man aims to keep every woman he bangs.
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@superchan2011 A woman only trys that w/ men she knows she can get away with it on. A woman is naturally submissive to a high value man.
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Ha okay, let's see when you run into a woman that has your mindset. Let's see her submit to you. Guarantee you you'll see that not everyone can be controlled like you think. You'll learn. Life will teach you.
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No it don't. It just validates to me that you made it up because how any guys realistically beds 400 plus women? No guy that I know, and I've known guys that bed women every single night, been friends with them and even they wouldn't say they bed 400 plus. And you're not in my body so you can't say how many women i've slept with or what my experience with women is, so i'm not gonna listen to someone tell me what my experience is when I know better than them.
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What I'm talking about is strictly to relationships though. I'm saying that people usually can't be trained in a relationship on how to act and also why would you even want to have to train a person on how to be a good girlfriend? Shouldn't they already be one from the start? That's my whole original point.
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You did say something to the extent of that it's you that gets rid of the woman if she's untrainable. You did say something like that. Just look back at some of your replies and you'll see. And I believe that your coming up with this 400 plus shit just to make up and cope with the fact that you haven't bedded nearly as many women as you would like for people to believe. So there you have you're beliefs about my experience and I have mine about yours. So I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree about that.
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And also a successful man is the one who can have a partner for life. Not the one who's bedded multiple women but ends up old and alone with nobody.
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@superchan2011 Now I see your confusion. Your thinking is flawed. I've run into countless women that have a "headstrong" attitude all of them w/ out exception admit to having that attitude only w/ weak or LV men. One of the major differences is that you feel the need to latch on to one woman for an extended period. I have no problem simply getting rid of them and upgrading to a better one. Life has taught me that of you build yourself up you never have to tolerate bad behavior from women. You simply haven't built yourself up enough.
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@superchan2011 It's impossible for you to know what is realistic for me. Very few men are able to have sex w/ 10 women much less 400, however none have lived my life and as you proved very few understand what women are actually attracted to. You've already convinced yourself that my rationale is incorrect so it only stands to reason you would have difficulty believing the results. What it shows however is that for all your complaining you equate having sex w/ tons of women w/ male dating success, which is what I want to have highlighted. TY for that.
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@superchan2011 Yes you've made this statement about people can't be trained that statement is fundamentally incorrect. I personally want to train my women because I have respect for myself and want to make sure the people around me treat me w/ the sane respect. Do you not have respect for yourself?
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@superchan2011 Yes, I get rid of woman all the time. My personal rule is I can only deal w/ a max of 3 at a time. You are more than welcome to believe what you like, but it doesn't change the reality of the situation. The difference is I opinionly provided my sexual history when asked, while you've been reluctant to disclose yours. Even if my number were flawed it doesn't change the fact that your strategy has failed to produce the results that men are seeking.
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@superchan2011 That's a female metric. Name one man in the history of the world that is successful solely because of having one woman?
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I don't tolerate bad behavior from women, I said in one of my replies that I was the one that did the dumping. So yeah i've built myself up plenty. One thing that you said that I agree with is that I do tend to latch on to one woman as I am a one woman man. I'm not looking to bed multiple women as i've already been there, done that. I'm looking for that one woman that I can spend life with and grow old with. If anything your thinking is flawed in your belief that you need to bounce from one woman to the next. Wouldn't you rather find that one that you could spend the rest of your life with and grow old with? Rather than have a bunch of notches on your belt only to end up alone?
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Something else that you forget that I stated was that the people that you can "train" usually want to change already on their own. If a person doesn't want to be "trained" you're not gonna have any luck. It'll be like trying to make a brick wall move. And I do have respect for myself. That's why I don't put up with any toxicity from a woman or anyone for that matter.
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Plenty. In fact I can name plenty in my own family that had and still has one woman that their married to and are growing old with, and their truly happy too. My dad, granddad and great-grand dad are examples of this. In fact my Great granddad and his wife made it to 100 years old together and were happy married for 75 years at that point. So it's definitely possible.
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@superchan2011 So then why do you believe your qualified to give advice to men?
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@superchan2011 That's a random subjective belief based on nothing other than rhe need to look for confirmation bias.
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Hey not my fault that the women I had weren't the right ones. They were just duds. Hence why I said you can't train someone who doesn't want to change for you or be right for you. And why I won't waste my time trying anymore. I'll just wait until the right one comes along. That's how it works in my experience. You go hunting and guess what? Most of the time you'll find trash instead of the gold because there's more trash to be found instead of gold. You say you've had different experiences well that's you. Doesn't mean you can discard someone elses experience down to well you just have the issue. I know for a fact that that's false. Because I'm a prize catch. Also you just came up with a random number of girls that you slept with, I could say i slept with over 1,000 women but that doesn't make it true just because I say it. and let's face it, 400 sounds like a made up number. Like how the hell can you even keep count after that point?
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Actually I equate being able to have a long lasting relationship with a woman as equal to male dating success. In fact I said several times that that's better than having multiple women that you never stay with and just end up alone anyway at the end of the day. And I think that different women are attracted to different things. You can't just lump women in a box and act like all are gonna be looking for the same exact thing. That's not how people work most of the time. Just like how not all men want the same thing from a woman.
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Because I've had plenty of my own dating experiences to go off as well as seeing how people in general operate to know better. What exactly makes you qualified to give other guys advice? What makes you such a relationship guru? Don't say your experiences with dating because that's all i'm going off of as well.
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Well I can say the same about your beliefs that you can train someone to be who you want them to be. Your opinion is just that{an opinion} not factual in the slightest. I'm going off of common sense. And common sense is that you can't mold a lot of people into who you think they should be. They choose who they are. That's why free will exist. Besides your the one who asked the question about how long it would take to train a woman to be a good girlfriend, so i think you only asked that to look for confirmation of your own bias.
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Anonymous(45 Plus)+1 yIt really depends on her upbringing. That's what a lot of toxic women today don't get. That's why they'll just jump from one bad relationship to the next. Because she doesn't even know what a quality man looks like, and wouldn't know how to keep one even if she found one.
With quality women the bones are already there. I wouldn't refer to it as training. Because the training is already ingrained her. It's just a matter of awakening her trust in you.
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Easier to do so before you make her your girlfriend
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@normalice Maybe. The higher value the guy the more he would need from a woman in order to pick her.
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@normalice No it simply means what it stands fot higher value. Guys w/ LV can't really afford to do that however higher value one's are able.
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@normalice I never mentioned anything about High maintenance, that's simply something you made up to make you feel better.
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@normalice Again that's something added by you please show where need is mentioned in the original question?
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@normalice So you admit that it's not in the question. TY
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@normalice Actual I did see the word need. It was in your first response. Yet another example of making up an argument and then attributing it to someone else. If you understood this subject matter you wouldn't need to do that
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@normalice So you literally created an argument and are attempting to attribute it to someone else. TY for validating my point.
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@normalice But not to the question asked
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@normalice So you admit you didn't answer the question asked. TY for finally being honest.
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@normalice TY for sharing whatever that was
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@normalice Glad to help. Now that you articulated your deficiencies
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@normalice By definition reality impacts everyone.
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@normalice If you realize reality impacts everyone then seems like you agree, glad I could educate you. What else are you struggling with?
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@normalice Once you make a point please lmk.
8.6K opinions shared on Dating topic. Somebody who could be trained like a cocker spaniel would not be good girlfriend material.
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@exitseven Seems odd considering training a cocker spaniel would make them into a better dog.
Anonymous(25-29)+1 yOne third of time how much it takes to train a man to be a good boyfriend.
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@anonymous If a woman has to train a man she's leaving that man anyway.
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Men always need to get trained. A true women always does this.
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+1 yAs long as it takes. Usually it’s not worth it. Better to just stay single.
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@SolitarySolace Training a woman doesn't mean that you limit yourself to just one.
4.3K opinions shared on Dating topic. Same as training a good boyfriend, I’d imagine. Both sides of a couple trains the other. As much as possible.
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@OddBeMe LV men will for sure, but not a man of value, which is the type of man that has the ability to train his woman. You don't build yourself up as a man to get woman you do it so you don't have to tolerate their bad behavior. While you may "heel" to a woman simply for sex, I don't have to because I can just replace her w/ another one.
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@oddbeme No if given the choice most guys would rather have multiple women it's just that so few can pull it off thar they end up settling
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(Shrug) agree to disagree.
www.businessinsider.com/r-fling-or-ring-mens-mating-preferences-not-hard-wired-study-2015-1 - +1 y
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@OddBeMe No worries, that is a standard emotional reply and explains your rationale about men wanting 1 women. You're a more emotional male, or a female pretending to be one, therefore, you're making the mistake of believing that what you want is the norm. You even went as far to misinterest a study that you didn't fully understand.
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@OddBeMe I think that's were you made your mistake you quoted from the link but failed to read the article. Had you actually read it you would have never attempted to present it as evidence for your point. In fact it contradicts your POV. They got you w/ click bait, and you fell for it because of your need for confirmation bias.
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Imma get into this…because this epitomizes the stupidity on the right. Your lack of nuance.
The study does say at first college guys polled more toward flings than longterm relationships. But the entire fucking point of the study was to place context into the mix and wah-lah:
“finds when men stick around to protect and provide rather than moving from fling to fling”
It literally points out the evolutionary expectations of wanting “flings” is seen in younger gens- then gets incredibly slanted toward longterm commitment.
Are you fucking blind or just have a reading problem?
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You should'nt be needing to train her. If you are a good match, you'll just know.
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If you treat your wife like an employee you won't get very far.
Mutual respect and having a connection where you feel you know the person is what gets you through life.
People who think they need to train their partner are living in an age long gone... or they have a problem that they don't like control being taken away from them when in fact it is about mutually working together. - +1 y
@FlyerMan Who said anything about a wife? Marriage is for poor people. All the intangible stuff your speaking is for females. My audience is male. If you are a man of value with respect for yourself you absolutely need to train bad habits out of the woman you choose. Now if you're an average guy w/ no options then yea, you'll have to settle for what you can get. How many women have you had sex w/?
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Let's just say working in the airline business has its perks. So to answer that question, plenty.
And I've not needed to change the girl. Some have become girlfriend material because they had what it takes. You don't need to change them. If it's right, it's right. If you need to mould them then why should you have to do that? Find someone that just works for you, or date yourself if you want someone as perfect as you. - +1 y
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+1 yYou can't "train" a person to do anything. They're human, not a pet.
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@handsomelad70 Exceot to work for you, throw a ball, increase their strength, run a marathon etc
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Yes, but those are physical, not personal situations.
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@handsomelad70 Nothings more personal the someone you'll hire to help you company. TBH the question doesn't ask "should" you train as every guy that is successful w/ woman will yell you that you should. It more about how long you should train. Just had my house cleaned and breakfast on the table from a woman that I had to train so it obviously works I'm simply asking how long should you take to train them.
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@Wiredone That is mistake that guys w/ limited options make. Most women are extremely similar, in their wants actions and behaviors. In order to get one worthy of being w/ you, you'll have to train her based on yours specifications. That's like saying that fortune 500 companies hire employees w/out training them.
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+1 yIt goes faster if you get a shock collar and invisible fence.
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@KrakenAttackin How's that going to help?
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It lets you electronically define the kitchen so can't leave it 😁
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@KrakenAttackin That's not for me. The Purpose of training your woman is so that she embodies the value you want. I'm not interested in having a woman confined to the kitchen.
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@Vegasrunner. It was an attempt at humor.
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@KrakenAttackin unfortunately that's the problem w/ today's climate. If a man has standards people have to instantly go to the worse negative extreme. The fact that I want my woman trained by me shows that I take pride in the value I have built myself up to and I understand that it's pretty unlikely a woman is going to know those values w/out me teaching them to them. However because people get triggered they want to pretend that it's a bad thing. If the roles were reversed and a woman said this she would receive 100 likes and compliments.
Balance a treat on her nose and find out.
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@LiamJHayden Probably impossible that a girl comes pre-assembled just for you, any guy that's had success w/ keeping women has to train them to learn what he likes.
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