Let's be honest, if you're not a high value alpha male, then girls are just not interested. Sure a few of you might get lucky when we're desperate or on the rebound, but most of you won't.
But with more and more girls drinking from the furry cup rather than gobbling the pork sausage, how much are men to blame?
Men are entirely to blame
Only those you who won't dine at the Y are to blame
There's no substitute for pork sausage
Sounds a bit fishy to me
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"Let's be honest, if you're not a high value alpha male, then girls are just not interested." Since you asked for honesty, that is just an internet cliche that you are mindlessly repeating. Go sit in a shopping mall on a Saturday afternoon and watch the couples stroll by. Are all of those guys 9/10 or 10/10? Are they all 6" 2"? Do they all look like they are fabulously rich?
"Sure a few of you might get lucky when we're desperate or on the rebound, but most of you won't." Maybe the MGTOW boys believe this mularkey but not anyone with a brain.
"But with more and more girls drinking from the furry cup rather than gobbling the pork sausage," And you know this because you read it on the internet? I think girls hooking up with girls gets discussed more openly now as opposed to 25-30 years ago, but that doesn't mean it is more common. Or are you speaking from personal experience?
"how much are men to blame?" Blame for what? Did someone do something wrong?
I saw an alpha male the other day while microdosing. He was right there, in what I assume was a costco parking lot, playing cards with a talking dog, Santa and Mothman. I said 'Hi' to all three of them. Santa, the dog and Mothman replied, but the alpha just stared at his hand (of cards), ignoring me and being so fucking cool. I just couldn't believe it. It was so badass and intimidating. I had to run right back home and rethink my whole way of life.
Then, I became an alpha male. How? I don't know. Maybe I grew a pair overnight after I screamed at balls for hours to shame them into, FINALLY, doing their FUCKING JOB. I just started to give orders to random people and they obeyed. Once I snapped my finger and three babes instantly got stuck onto my hand as if it was a magnet. I shit you not. Litterally just like a goddamn magnet. Like "snap" and "bam! bam! Bam" in a split second. And then it's on the next ones.
Now I'm a threat to society. I have to get a permit to go clubbing because I always end up stealing every guy's girlfriend without even realizing it, causing chaos. I don't think you realize it, cucks, but chaos means cops and cops costs the taxpayer a lot of fucking dough. So now, I just chill and try as best as I can not to attract girls.
It's hard, you know, because I'm so in charge, calm and confident that sometimes I'm attracted to myself.
Bro, I can't have intercourse with myself.
So I came up with a solution. I look for good-looking, hunky alphas like me who are just as manly, confident, suave, cool and collected as I am. I invite them over with a lifting-my-chin-up-fast-then-bringing-it-back-down-quick head move towards the other god. We take space the best we can in public settings. We don't talk, don't smile, don't laugh. We dress well, we all are life coachs and we workout. We have the best alpha sex together. No sound, no talking, no smiling, no love, no moans. Just manly, rough alpha sex.
😂 Omg... I'm trying to answer, but 🤣🤣🤣... How ridiculous!!!
Imagine? "All the local guys suck. Let me try online dating... no all those guys suck also... Hmm. I'll switch girls." I don't think that's how sexual preference or gender identity work. What happens when you start thinking "All girls suck"? Will you finally look in the mirror and figure out something else has to change?
@islathewitch. This makes you an oddity as women have an almost universal definition of "high value" (the traditional tall, dark, handsome, high income). This is replete in every culture I can think of and is especially well defined in the West. I don't have a problem with women having preferences, but what women fail to realize is these men are a tiny sliver of the population. These men will sleep with most women but they won't commit to them.
That's one way to see it, some women just have impossible standards. I've got one friend who went from talking non stop about her ex, constantly bringing new guys to our hangouts. Hell she even had some silly pact to date our high school buddy if they were single when they hit thirty and she must have been serious cause she was all bent out of shape when got a girlfriend at 28. Then overnight BOOM she's a lesbian dating butch manly, as in almost passing as man the way she dresses ( maybe she's a transman? I don't know not gonna ask) girlfriend.
So in this one instance it sure seem like whe was so stubborn and arrogant that she wouldn't compromise an inches from her unrealistic vision of what a man should be that she'd rather switch teams than say "maybe I'm asking to much".
I'll grant you that there are flabby, greasy, pale, Mountin dew drinking, video game obsessed basement dwelling men that refuse to improve themselfs in anyway and complain non stop that they get no pussy... obviously we don't expect women to date them but some women will turn down a near perfect guy cause " he's not exciting enough I need more than stability" or " I'm taller than him when I wear heels"
Do you really think women are happier and long term fulfilled turning to lesbianism? Sure they understand each other emotionally and sexually. Itās probably great for them in the beginning. But the differences in men and women is what both brings consternation and long term improvement in healthy relationships.
Yes women are picky (this is due to evolution) and society has only encouraged them get pickier. But this isnāt about a lack of viable male equivalents. No. Itās about short term gratification. Yes we think and behave differently but that challenge actually is what improves each other in the long run.
Anyway Iāve seen you post antagonistic subjects over and over again on GAG the years @purplepoppy I think you get a sugar high from picking fights with men. You enjoy the drama.
I am just waiting for the day where you will genuinely consider the devils advocate position and/or consider the manās POV on things. Put the mental effort into what its life is really like for most of us. That doesnāt mean you have to agree with people who disagree with you. But it would be nice if you would for once seriously something that challenges your pre-existing beliefs.
But that day is still far off from you. Your ego just canāt handle it. But you really making yourself depressed in the long run looking at the world this way. Really itās hurting you.
I'm here on Girls Ask Guys, sprinkling some insight on the recent boom in carpet munchers. While the world might blame it on low value men, I'd say the boom in lesbianism is simply due to the raw, unbridled sexiness of the lesbians.
When a femme in a plaid button-down wraps her arms around another, it's like a visual poem of unspoken passion. The casual attire adds a touch of realism, making those intimate moments feel all the more accessible, like we could stumble upon them in a dimly lit pool hall.
Speaking of pool, imagine two stunning ladies, cues in hand, their eyes locked in a heated game of billiards. Each stroke, each swish of the cue, becomes a sensual tease, a prelude to the main event. The tension builds, the balls collide, and suddenly, the table becomes a stage for their lustful desire to have a pair. It's an intoxicating blend of skill and desire, a performance that leaves us all yearning to have a vagina and a fresh set of batteries, to pack our bags and move in with them right away.
@horndog_harry Au contraire, my young friend, I was seeing girl on girl porn even pre internet, from the days of a group of us frustrated young men pooling our modest student budget funds to buy the latest Penthouse Magazine monthly at the campus bookstore and then share it among ourselves. (And apparently they were instrumental in mainstreaming it?)
I watched the female vaginal area in such pictorials and later video go from hairy, to trimmed, to "landing strips", to now fully depilated. I suspect the rising trend of and or demand for oral sex had something to do with that, for who likes hairs up their noses or in their mouths? And that goes for we men to now apparently, yea manscaping, which is cooler in the hot summer weather as well.
BUT - those ladies (1) were "height weight proportionate", (2) were often "Gay For Pay" in reality, and not like the Oompah Loompah lookalikes I all too often see all around me.
And I am in Land Of Fruits And Nuts California, where the women who like men do not speak English well and the women who speak English well do not like men!
@Curmudgeon @horndog_harry If we're talking about girl on girl here, I'll chip in some money and bring some beers. Let's pay them to lick each other's asses.
The lack of high-value men is a not my problem. I went overseas because I didn't want to waste my time with one of your evil cohorts who only seek to get cash and make people around them miserable. ... just take a look around at the women they'd have to choose from...
Do you really think a high value man wants to throw it all away for them?
Gaw the smell... why didn't this prize get a high value man instead of me?
I'm just shitting around so I hope I'm not offending anyone. The question of the rise of lesbianism has an interesting statistic that has made me wonder for a while now. They have the highest domestic abuse rate. hetero couples take the middle ground. and then the least are the homos. ... so the trend I see in this trend is the factor of women increasing the probability of domestic abuse.
So how much are men to blame? Good question. Statistically and logically speaking though... the blow back is always because of the women and their choices. This is no longer the 1920's where it's a man's world... this is a woman's world. In a different time or a different place, I'd probably blame the men. But I'm in America right now in the current year... and the women are shit. They'll look just like the woman in the picture and rate themselves a 10.
But that's *hypergamy* and *the apex fallacy*. You have all (or a sizeable majority like 80%) of women pursuing a smaller fraction (like 20% or even less) of top tier men. And those men get to "fuck them and forget them" and play the whole field. And they DO!
Meanwhile, a perfectly decent second tier is overlooked (and no, I am NOT talking about dregs or InCels, these are people with good jobs and reasonable appearances, not Adonises or super loaded with resources, but they would be fine).
But the women today have been taught that they deserve the apex, even if *they* are nowhere near the apex, and to overlook all the other men. And what's worse, they expect a certain apex ideal male, but they will do nothing to become, or will even be hostile to becoming, the corresponding desirable female:
As for Lesbianism, well Fantasy vs. Reality:
Or perhaps is there an Apex Fallacy among Lesbians too?
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Anonymous
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Itās largely the internet and the effect it has had on both genders.
I heard someone put it so well the other dayā¦ the internet and social media, men have easy access to porn and women have easy access to attention, and they are essentially the gender equivalent factors of whatās ruining this generation.
Men donāt have to put in the effort to see a couple of t*tties and get off, and women donāt have to wait for a man to approach them and validate their existence. They have endless attention and validation online, everyday, for simply existingā¦ even the most mundane posts they will get at least double-digit likes.
Itās damaging to peopleās psycheās. As much as it doesnāt seem to affect people, exposure to a near endless supply of images of beautiful naked women, where a man will decide āyes thatās what I likeā, or attention from a near endless supply of a RANGE of average to higher quality of men, even if a woman isnāt all that special, sheās going to immediately think that because 5 quality men liked her photo, she deserves to BE with that caliber of manā¦ and thatās not necessarily the case.
Heaven forbid she hooked up with a 9 or 10 Chad, even though sheās a 5 or 6, and now her standards are skewed for lifeā¦ Hook up culture and the internet has literally ruined EVERYTHING.
Most logical people understand the blame falls squarely on women, as men simply adapt to female behavior. I do agree thst thr Pickens are getting slimer for the average guy especially younger average guys however there are two great advantages to men.
1. The top 20% get to enjoy the top 90% of woman. Meaning that more and more will be forced to share HV men.
2. You have so much time to build yourself up as a man. Peak earning for men are between ages 42 - 46, so young guys have the luxury of focusing on careers and building themselves up.
@Vegasrunner I tell this to many frustrated younger men, although they all too often lack a longer term perspective, and their hormones are raging full-on, so my advice falls on deaf ears. And to be fair, I was stuck in that rut once too, thankfully out of that.
@Curmudgeon Yes, but keep telling them. I think one of the biggest issues is so few people explain this to young guys plus they are simultaneously only bombarded w/ information that only benifits the female.
The rise is more likely due to the fact women can't actually find a good man because they reject the good men pick the shit men then blame all men for their poor choices causing all men to walk away leaving them serially single or little more than a walking cum dump
@jacobjordan. Women are learning that chasing the top 5% of men means they will have to share a man with numerous women. This is simple supply and demand.
@KrakenAttackin and women don't like sharing they are inherently possessive which is why it fails. They'll figure it out eventually until then sucks to be them.
@jacobjordan. Women do eventually "figure it out" but the process it incorrectly. After women realize they can't lockdown a Chad, they find a regular good man, but they think they are "settling" for the good guy and always have one foot out of the marriage. After an average of eight years, these woman divorce the good guy, destroy him financially, mentally, emotionally, take the kids, house, etc; and go back to trying to find a Chad (unsuccessfully). This is such a predictable pattern in the U. S. right now.
@KrakenAttackin very true that is why American men are starting to seek overseas in higher and higher numbers. And overseas men don't want American women. But interestingly foreign men are perfectly fine with American men marrying foreign women and aren't threatened by it either
I think it has to do with low T. Men now days literally only have 5% of T that they are suppose to have. It's making them all bitches. For example, men thinking they are the prize and that women should fight/provide for them. Might as well be with a woman instead
Are we in the human equivalent of "Mouse Utopia"? The rodent testosterone levels dropped off there too. And it looks like a sizeable number of them went homosexual as well. And no, the giant small farm sized mouse pen never actually overpopulated and still had plenty of open space, the mice just lost their will to live apparently. Some of them even began to destroy their own society and ultimately the mouse farm went extinct: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ReBJfxHjFU
The problem is you women thinking you are the prize and we should to fight for you. Most women are not worth it so why should we bother, It is your fault for starting this feminist nonsense.
@DarkLegacy it sounds like you just prefer feminist women since you don't want to prove yourself or think women are the prize. I guess it doesn't matter because you are far too old to acutally get a traditional woman anyways
@DarkLegacy I'm a traditional woman. And who said anything about younger women? I said you were too old to be taken seriously for a traditional relationship. You are literally middle aged for a man
@Apple1996 "It's always been traditional for the woman to be the prize and men having to prove themselves to be with her." - OK then, but what happens when the prize becomes tarnished, and when the amount of "proof" required has risen beyond reason? The answer, in the 21st century modern world, is men opting out.
A common thing manosphere types like to tell each other is to not listen to women about what they like in men because they donāt know themselves. Yup so they are told directly donāt listen insulating themselves even further.
Yeah of course. But it's hilarious how they still think they are experts on us and it never works out.
That's what happened during the whole pickup artist thing. It was never successful but hey "we still know what women want." But the epic failures continue to happen.
"Women are dumb, women are superficial, women like to be treated like garbage" "We are experts on women"
"You don't know how hard we have it, there's a loneliness epidemic for us now, stupid women caused this by not being exactly like we want them to be instead of just being themselves"
I guess they should probably pay attention to what we actually like or want instead of deciding for us.
That guy happened to figure it all out huh? Hahaha. He's the genius! I love how his entire post is based on all women basically being the exact same and thinking the same way. That is what we call misogyny and that guy would never be able to figure out why it's misogynistic. Also that guy isn't helping anyone get women so his methods aren't working. So he's wrong about what women want. He doesn't know what Women want. His message, the entire thing is based on "don't listen to women" that's ultimately what ye wants people to take away from it. He doesn't care about other's being successful with women at all. This is the resentment and hate towards women from these chuds.
It's just hurr durr don't listen to women. But still alone, still unsuccessful with women.
Direct correlation of loneliness epidemic and the spread of redpill/ manosphere propaganda online.
Last time I checked Andrew Tate didn't make anyone rich or successful with women. Probably because we like to be treated with respect like a human being. Crazy thought.
Hahaha I know better than that. You always show you that you actually understand women and respect them. You're one of the last people I'd expect to have Anthony to do with hustler university. That goes for both of you.
Ell oh ell! Just ālisten to womenā huh? Cuz women never lie or misrepresent themselves? Women are never disingenuous? They never change their minds and their feelings are fixed? The facts are in. More than half of all marriages end in divorce and/or annulment, and more than three quarters of divorce are initiated by women. Those women all said āI doā. Then they didnāt. So your pithy assertion ājust listen to womenā is beyond lazy and disingenuous. But donāt you worry your pretty little head about it. Most men are too stoopid or fixated on your genitalia to notice. You wouldnāt want those of us who have seen the strings. Weāre not as easily manipulated.
And here you see the redpill/manosphere buffoon in the wild. See how he loves to say exactly what I said about redpill incel guys. He just proved me right. Look how he instantly says "women are most likely lying" "women are not to be trusted" "women will turn on you and divorce you" "Don't listen to women" "We know what's going on here, we know what women are up to"
Aren't you a little old to be taking that red pill?
Unrealistic demands I guess for men , high standards and high cost of living for us is creating a problem for younger people so women are just getting together instead and living in those condos that are maintenance free and donāt feel like they need a man anymore
It's because they are entitled and indoctrinated to hate men. This is destroying society, the men who do the dirty, difficult, and dangerous jobs that are required to keep civilization running won't continue to do so for long for women who think they are beneath them. Why would a guy bust his ass just to die a virgin after getting mocked, rejected, and hated for his whole life prior?
The pictured dude is FUGLY;I can see why most women would shun him.(He may be generous and thoughtful, ladies !!!). I'd club the broad in the pink top !!!
I haven't a clue why or if there's a "lesbianism" boom. (Beef sausage is better than pork sausage.)
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Anonymous
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Nice pathetic attempt at trolling, and women who want alpha guys are the lowest form of pond life. Feminism is to blame for their not being high value women for us men to be with. That is the only problem there is in society, and people coming out with what you put in your question description.
The other reason why so many people are going LBGT is because of feminist brainwashing.
Let them go be lesbians. A recent survey of 3,000 lesbian relationships found that over 50% of lesbians said they were in "an abusive relationship". š
Your lack of intelligence is showing here, only braindead people with no iq would use terms like alpha and high value when describing men , and as if it would make nay difference to whether a woman is a lesbian or not. And being a gay man is also on the increase. I guess it is feminism that is to blame for that also. It is best for to stick to what you know, which is food and beverage, rather then talking about things you do not know about
Lack of both high value men and high value women are to blame, since they end up getting together and producing mentally ill offspring which includes LGBTQ individuals.
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Anonymous
(25-29)
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Not entirely, the new generation aren't having kids because they know the planet is chronically overpopulated so if remove procreation why else would you let a man giving zero pleasure pump away until he is satisfied when you can get the pleasure for your know camp who knows what they are doing
there's no boom, they were always there its just that with the social change they become more open about it. Same could be said about the "boom" of gay men.
Not really a "blame" issue as there is nothing wrong with it. But I suspect the fact that men are trending towards increased narcissism is certianly a factor.
I checked the 'pork sausage' option, but your suggestion of lack of high value men is probably the reason, that those men get overlooked... What do these 'pig men' expect?
The boom in lesbianism is because girls are more free to express themselves then suffer unsatisfying relationships with guys because itās what society expects of them. So in a roundabout way you could say yeah, the patriarchy made them do it.
@crabcakes11 and yet, it has varied, or at least been more public, in different cultures and in different historical periods? (Of course, that could be the expression rather than actual desire?)
Yes and no. You canāt choose your nature, but you absolutely can choose your behavior. Not being a lesbian doesnāt stop women from participating in lesbianism. If itās even remotely as satisfying as sex with men, but none of the headaches and disappointments, thereās no reason someone couldnāt commit to it as a lifestyle.
@Curmudgeon yes, because being a lesbian would get people killed in most places and time periods. Thatās why there an apparent shift in the amount of lesbians. Iām sure the rate has been stable, but people simply kept it to themselves in order to keep surviving
@Chazmatazz269 Name one woman who isnāt actually gay but just chooses to have sex with women because men are just that terrible.
Youāre actually crazy if you think sex with women is in general less satisfying physically as sex with men. Women have more orgasms when they sleep with other women. Your penis isnāt as important as you think it is. Most women do not have orgasms from penetration
I can name a few women who arenāt lesbians but participated in lesbian sex, one cheated on her husband with another woman. But thatās not at all what i said. You need to brush up on your reading and comprehension skills. Or stop using straw man arguments. I also didnāt say lesbian sex is less satisfying than sex with men. I said even IF it were less satisfying, but the tradeoff is not putting up with men, itās perfectly understandable for women who arenāt lesbians to engage in lesbianism. Thatās the last time iāll repeat myself for your edification. You need not respond if youāre not going to bother to fully read and understand my responses.
@crabcakes11 "Name one woman who isnāt actually gay but just chooses to have sex with women because men are just that terrible.
Youāre actually crazy if you think sex with women is in general less satisfying physically as sex with men. Women have more orgasms when they sleep with other women. Your penis isnāt as important as you think it is. Most women do not have orgasms from penetration."
Well, it does appear that your Second, Third, Fourth and Fifth sentences could oppose your First sentence, and make @chazmatazz269 's point, just saying.
@KostasKouvalis but would they *really*? Or more likely just exploit him, use him, abuse him, and then cast him aside as soon as they can get Chad attention?
@Apple1996 "Unhappy". Marriage is about commitment, not "happiness". Women's emotions ebb and flow, which is why society kept women under control for so long. If your "feelings" rule you, nothing positive will come from that.
It's pretty clear throughout history that many of those ugly fucks only married and mated because marriage is for men to continue their bloodline. Obviously history books are full of Chad's š
@Apple1996 Well, and women married for security, protection, status, and access to resources. In these days marriage WORKED. Now, marriage is a disaster zone.
@Apple1996 I disagree. I used to have many elderly clients and their marriages were sacred to them. Of course, to you "older" is 50. To me "older" is 80+.
both are to blame. There's a lack of high value men, and lack of high value women.
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Anonymous
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since when is someone else responsible for someone else's attraction or lack of attraction to them?
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Anonymous
(36-45)
+1 y
Great question! This should be easy to figure out. If true, we should expect to see a big jump in lesbianism in Russia and Ukraine as a sizable portion of the fuckable dudes are fed into the human meat-grinder of their war.
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Anonymous
(25-29)
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Definitely the dumbest thing Iāve read on the internet todayā¦congratulations
Or could it be an increase in women that can't attract men?
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Anonymous
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No. Sexuality isn't something you can change. I'd wager the increase in the number of lesbians is due to it being more acceptable to openly be lesbian these days.
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