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ASH The metric used is the metric every business is evaluated on. If you're making the claim that you're changing lives, As a consumer, competitor and service provider, I have every right to investigate the validity of that claim. The fact that your not making money tells me either you don't have any clients or the clients you have don't value your service. If you're going to attempt to use your profession as proof then people are going to review your resume.
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Ash You introduced your personal My argument is that your relationship isn't public because your spouse isn't HV and he's your husband because that's the level man that you can retain. Your business which is based on that dynamic is unsuccessful because women don't want that archtype of man. There is no CE required to maintain a license as a relationship coaches. If your mission is to truly help women, then by the numbers you have failed.
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Depends on what he’s doing to make him her best choice.
@MzAsh Once a man reaches HV status he does the chosen
When a woman understands her own value, they both know she has the final say.
@MzAsh Nah it's simple supply and demand. There's way more beautiful women than there are HV men, so the women are much easier to replace.
A smart man knows better than to reduces his choices to mere number.
@MzAsh By definition every choice is numerical a man only needs to decide if he wants that number to be zero or infinite.
Anyone of true value is still going to care about quality.
@MzAsh And your belief is that's there's few quality women?
This isn’t about scarcity of quality women. This is about recognizing the quality beyond the surface.
@MzAsh If there's so many quality women, then they're pretty easy to replace.
You’re still not with me. I get it. You’re still on the thrill of the chase and don’t yet understand the value of quality.
@MzAsh TBH it doesn't seem like you get it at all. Men build themselves up so that the women chase them. Since there are less of HV men, and a plethora of young attractive women. We are the quality and are valued by the quantity if women we have. Much easier to replace a woman than a HV man. That's why a lot of women get dropped as they age out.
Men build themselves up so that women will *choose* them. Being pursued is the feminine role. Only desperate women chase men.
@MzAsh That tells me you've never had a HV man commit to you. HV men do the choosing. Think about it logically, if a man has 5, 6 plus girls, then being w/ one exclusively is going to be his choice. The belief that women need to be pursued is actually a coping mechanism used by desperate women to justify the fact that they can't get the man that they want. How many men have you asked to be in a relationship with you?
My value is such that I’ve never needed to chase. If a man has 5, 6 girls then the woman he’s looking at have 10 or more. The only women who are going to chase are the unattractive women with fewer options than him. Testosterone drives men to pursue, not the other way around.
@MzAsh Your value is determined by the quality of the man you can retain. Your statement about how many men women have is perfectly timed, as I used this in my talk I gave to some of the young men I mentor. I always remind them that we are not competing w/ women in the sexual market place, so the number of men a woman believes she has is irrelevant, this is actually a shaming tactics women will use to attempt to trick HV men into believing she has options. Women are competing against other women for us. Any girl w/ a working vagina will have options, however majority of those options will be LV men that she doesn't want. Whereas all of our options as men are viable, because we're only looking for one thing. No guy has ever been having sex w/ a woman, thinking about hypothetical men in her DM's. Testosterone drives men to want sex, and as long as he has unlimited options HV men are happy, whereas women are the ones that need multiple boxes checked. All of my woman proably have tons of guys hitting them up, however they understand that the risk of losing access to me is to great to entertain attention from just any guy. Hope this helps.
As we’ve highlighted in other discussions, we're clearly talking about two different games here.
A woman like me is highly desirable to everyone, but we’re only interested in men who are serious about finding a life partner. *That’s what we want.* Because We’re the total package: brains, looks, life skills, relationship skills, and other aspects of unique value. We want a man who matches us on all those area, which involves a lot more than his looks, status, or income.
Your original question calls to what women can provide to get a desirable man to commit. The answer to that is her discernment to understand the difference between men who are positioned for commitment and those who aren’t.
These women are not interested in men who treat relationships like a numbers game. We’re talking about commitment relationships, and There’s a big difference between men who are out for anything they can get and those who know the value of something deeper.
In essence, we women don’t go to McDonald’s where billions are served looking for our perfect filet mignon.
@MzAsh If your profile is correct, your 40 years old, and no one desires a 40 year old woman. Brains, life skills blah, blah blah, men don't care about that at all. You care about it and attempting to project that into something men should value. Original question is what can women provide to make a HV man settle for only them? The things you mentioned certainly aren't it. You're answer is the typical average female answer that pretenda you have some sort of leverage, maybe 20 years ago, that was true but definitely not now. You're also making another big mistake that women make, by assuming attraction. To get to the "commitment" phase men have to do a ton of work men who do that work didn't do it just to settle for one chick. As I've stated b4 your philosophy has some substance, as I do believe woman should do like you lower their standards, and make it work w/ an average man. However we both know women won't. They want a man 6'2 that makes 6 figures has a 6pack etc. We'll as a man that has those metrics, and has unlimited options, I'm asking what can a women do that would make me settle for just her. The stuff you said ain't it. Women would be the burgers in your anology as men choose who gets relationships (something that I teach younger guys) so you can look for whatever you want However unless the FM chooses you, you're stuck w/ what you can get.
At 40, I'm not just speaking from theory but from 17 years of a successful marriage, so my insights come from real, lived experience. Quality men, those looking for long term partnerships, value far more than just superficial traits. They seek brains, life skills, and emotional depth… attributes that sustain relationships well beyond initial attraction. This isn't just my opinion. It’s supported by extensive research.
You seem to be boxing everyone into your perspective based on your priorities, which appear to center around fleeting connections. However, not all men share your outlook. Many men appreciate and actively seek the qualities that constitute a mature, lasting partnership.
As for me, I might be 40, but my age has never been a barrier to desirability. I look great, fit and youthful, feel great, and am valued greatly by a man who understands the importance of depth and commitment. So while you focus on what you believe “high value” men want, remember that real value in a relationship comes from respect and shared growth, not just surface level appeal.
@MzAsh If you've been w/ one man for 17 years what qualifies you to give men advice? "Quality" is a subjective term, women tend to use these terms in an attempt to shame men that don't won't them. Most men aren't looking for one woman which is why we have phrases like women look for everything from one man, men look for one thing from every woman. Not only does all research prove this, but reality as well. Name a highly successful man that is a public figure that has only had one women? Technically you're boxing everyone into your perspective you've even admitted as much, evident by the fact that you're speaking for all men yet have been w/ the same one for 17 years. How would you know what "many men are seeking" Your attempting to lump them all into your narrow mysandrist POV. Most men when given the option prefer quantity of women, men w/out options will do like your husband and settle.
Your age is a huge barrier, lined up against a 20 yro woman and men are going to choose the 20 yro over you every time. I am a HV man, and associate w/ others I'm simply relaying to you what we actually want. You are free to believe what you want but as mentioned b4 you have no experience w/ HV so why do you believe your perspective is relevant?
My 17 years in marriage have given me profound insights into what sustains love and respect over time, far more than any fleeting encounters could.
I simply recognize that men are not a monolith. They have diverse desires and values that extend well beyond your narrow worldview.
In my coaching practice, I focus on empowering women to choose quality men who are husband material. By “quality” I’m referring to men who are well rounded with relationship skills, much like how you use “high value” to describe men of status. There’s a critical distinction here between the standard of men you describe and the quality men I help women find.
You assert that most men aren’t looking for just one woman, but research shows that the majority of men do, in fact, seek to commit to one woman, particularly for marriage and building a family.
www.pewresearch.org/.../
A poll I took:
Guys, would you prefer a fulfilling monogamous relationship or a life of sleeping with multiple women? ↗
Also, studies have consistently shown that married men report greater happiness than their bachelor counterparts.
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For example, consider Mark Zuckerberg, who has been with Priscilla Chan since college and married her in 2012.
Your perspective seems to reflect men interested in casual relationships. That’s fine, but understand that there is a vast difference between what you seek and what many other men aspire to. Women interested in commitment, if they’re smart, are not interested in what promiscuous men want because they’re focused on a deeper, more meaningful connection.
And, for the record, I might be 40, but many tell me I look like I’m in my 20s, which only reinforces that age is but a number when it comes to value and appeal.
@MzAsh I asked you what qualifies you to advise men, avoiding the question only validates my point. Technically it would be your worldview that is narrow, as I've been w/ women of all ages, races and beliefs you've been w/ 1 guy.
I think I see your confusion. HV has tangible metric attached to it. Tall, muscular, Financially successful, etc. "Quality" is an intangible metric. Essentially you are making the case that a quality man is any man that chooses you. This is something all women do because their insecurities won't allow them to accept the fact that the man they want doesn't want them. I understand how your research can confused you. Notice how in the Pew study mens FINANCIAL STAUS was not included which is my position. Again the fact that you choose to ignore that metric only validates my point cont.
Cont... Average men are more likely to settle for one women because that's all they can get. Men typically approach women so it stands to reason that average men will settle because of how difficult it is for them to atract women. Also even w/ the negation of that metric marriage was less important to men than women, in the study you presented so that was a silly poll to use and shows how women prefer comfirmation bias vs the truth. Even if your MZ belief was true he would be one outlier in millions of exampls that validates my POV which comes from the POV of men w/ the ability to attract multiple women which is a position society doesn't usually hear from until a scandal comes out. Tiger Woods, Kobe Bryant etc. It's also why I decided to post on this forum, because I realize only the female metric is presented when discussing relationships which is why you "feel" like you are correct. Think about it using logic v enotion what man is going to say, I want a bunch of women not just one? I would argue most men aspire to what I have accomplished which is to have the ability to easily replace women. Most guys don't want to deal w/ the nonsense that women present however they lack the ability to do better so they stay w/ any women they can get. Again the proof of this is that you didn't include a financial or status metric in any of your research.
I agree w/ you about what women should want, unfortunately for you most women want men w/ the metrics I previously mentioned.
Lol, of course many tell you you look younger, because we live in a society that values lying to women, however if we put you up against an actual 20 year old women, few if any men are going to actually choose you when given the option.
Overall though, I respect your position for women, however It's not realistic and like many it comes at the cost of what men actually want which is what I concentrate on.
Your question about my qualifications to advise men misses the mark. Like I said, I focus my coaching on women, by empowering them to choose wisely and lead fulfilled lives. From my own diverse dating experiences before settling into a successful marriage, I bring a wealth of real world insights. The traits I advocate for, like emotional availability and commitment, are in fact tangible and measurable.
On financial status, it’s important but not paramount. Smart, career oriented women like myself prioritize stability, not a man’s fortune. We value self sufficiency and are attracted to men who are secure in their careers, but it’s often the case that those at the zenith of success find their time monopolized by demands outside the home, which doesn’t fly with women like myself who expect consistent quality time and daily domestic contributions.
The idea that men inherently prefer multiple women contradicts significant evidence showing the satisfaction men derive from committed relationships. Studies on the impact of oxytocin proves how deeply men value trust and loyalty. It’s on you if you want to ignore hard data because it doesn’t align with your biases.
It’s amusing when you talk about the preferences of immature men as if they represent all men. Mature, discerning men… those who’ve evolved past superficial attractions, seek depth and compatibility whether you accept it or not. These men appreciate the allure of a woman who embodies experience and wisdom.
Even now, men of all varieties recognize and appreciate my qualities, and regularly strive to impress me. Of course, I’m careful not to lead anyone on, as I’m not interested in replacing my husband, but I can’t deny that I easily could if it wanted to. When you’re a total package woman, the world is your oyster.
This might sound unrealistic to some, but it’s the reality grounded in the successes of those women who recognize their worth and refuse to settle for less.
@MzAsh
So we both agree you shouldn't be advising men? You may value your career however that doesn't make you more attractive to the men women want, meaning women like you are only selected by men that society values less. The moment you present "hard data" that shows that men w/ options decide to settle on one woman I will glady review it. To date the evidence clearly shows that men w/ have options exercise them if the didn't you wouldn't need to use subjective terms like "immature or quality" to attempt to validate your point. Those are simply standard shaming tactics used by woman who fail to attract men of value. Most men when given options exercise them, and you've seen this played out throughout history w/ Kings, heads of state, professional athletes, celebrities etc. In fact one of the main motivating factors pf those people is to not have to tolerate nonsense from one woman. I'm glad you agree w/ me about your husband as I wasn't trying to insult him, but yes if a 40 year old woman has more options then him than he's obviously LV. Let's give u the benifit if the doubt and say you're a 5, well there's numerous 5's in the world. I'm 6'2 college educated AA male that's a business owner, who makes over 6 figures annually, that's literally less than 1% of the population so it's a lot harder for a woman to find another me, whereas I can throw a rock down the LV strip and attract a 5. A "total package" woman would have youth, beauty and know how to follow as those are the traits HV men seek. What you're saying doesn't sound unrealistic, remember I've been w/ nearly 450 woman and have interacted w/ 10's of thousands more organically, so what you're saying is something that many average woman say.
Well, Vegasrunner, I decide who I should and shouldn’t be advising. I'm not opposed to advising men, but they have to be the right fit… cooperative and ready to do the work. You see, women don’t need to chase after men “other women want.” They only need to focus on what *they* want, building the type of relationship that suits *their* life. No one else’s opinions matter here.
Take my husband, for instance. He may not be the wealthiest, but he excels in areas that truly matter to me, areas most men sadly overlook. Unlike many, especially those my age, I’ve managed to stay on top of things that typically challenge others. I’ve still got the body of a 19 year old, I’ve mastered many of life’s curveballs, and I keep my career and passions alive and well. At 40, while others watch their worlds dictated by routines they despise, I’m thriving in a marriage that’s strong, and a life that’s tailored just for me and that’s under my control. I'm sharp-witted, supportive, and know exactly when to lead and when to follow, which is a balance most can only aspire to.
Interestingly, I recently came across a video where prominent figures in the manosphere, exhausted by the superficiality of constant low-hanging ho chasing, expressed their newfound appreciation for stability and substance in relationships… exactly the qualities mature women embody. Though I don’t hold these men in high regard, their shift in perspective is amusing and telling. Would love to hear your thoughts on this.
www.youtube.com/.../pTu26tMdFMw
@MzAsh It's a good thing for men that you've decided you shouldn't advise, as you don't provide any benifit to them in the dating market. I don't know if they need to but women do chase after the men other women want and have since the beginning of time. I agree your opinion doesn't matter.
The fact that your husband allows his woman to ramble on about this subject tells me everything I need to know about him. You know who has the body of a 19 yro woman? 19 year old women, however at least it's good that even you understand men prefer youth and beauty.
I am not as familiar w/ "the manosphere" so I wouldn't be the best person to speak on that subject, I will say most people man or woman understand, that woman make up 80%of consumer base and apeasing to their egos is an easy way to sell to them. No man that is good w/ women has to chase in fact the benifit of chasing success allows a man to avoid tolerating the headaches women bring. The fact that you claim they were "Ho chasing" tells me a lot, however it could also just be your misintpretation.
I advise men when they seek it and if they're the right fit, but I focus mainly on women because that's where I see the greatest impact of my work. If a man isn't the right fit, I have a network of trusted male coaches I can refer him to.
It’s short sighted and frankly foolish for women to chase after men simply because other women want them. This often leads to disappointment as they end up with men they don’t really like, which is why many of them are perpetually single and unhappy about it.
My husband supports my autonomy in running my business. He isn’t interested in “allowing” or “disallowing “ me anything. He respects and values the hard work I've put into building not just my career but our life together. That’s just one of many things I love and respect about him.
I find your lack of familiarity with the manosphere surprising, considering your interests. Keeping informed on their dynamics is part of my work, and watching the prominent figures grow older and shift their perspectives is both predictable and amusing. They talk about the fatigue of managing multiple shallow relationships with women and eventually come to value what one true connection can offer.
These so-called “alpha” warriors might never attract a genuinely high quality woman due to their storied pasts, but watching them try to settle down is a case study in itself. You should give it a listen, you might find it enlightening.
@MzAsh The "right fit" is a man that doesn't know his worth. Which means he's going to struggle w/ women regardless of who coaches him. TBH women make terrible male relationship coaches because as you proved they only understand one side of the dynamic, and are narcissistic by nature. I agree about being short sighted, however it's in a woman's nature to want the HV man, and Social proof validates who that is. Women probably would be happier getting a lower value man like you did, but that's not what women are attracted to. Yours allows you to work because he understands that he doesn't have the leverage to replace you.
The reason my lack of familiarity surprises you is because you mistakingly believe I'm a follower, when in reality I'm more like the creator of many pro male positions you see today. One of my BA's is in sociology w/ an emphasis in gender studies, I've conducted extensive gender surveys over 20 years ago, was one of the most successful LV Promoters and VIP host for nearly a decade which gave me countless un filtered access to women and their true behaviors, and have served as a college basketball scout and mentor to male HS, Cbball players for the last 6 years advising them how to spot negative female behavior and avoiding future traps cont..
The fatigue of managing multiple women is a real thing as I experience it myself however it's nothing compared to the fatigue of being at the mercy of having no leverage w/ one woman. The difference between me and the guys you speak of is I figured that out at 15. This information is new to YOU, and them, which is why they are proably spreading to a new generation. A "high quality" woman is simply a woman thats young, beautiful and quiet as, there's not much other value women bring HV men. I've never met you in person, but your content provides insight into which of the 4 categories of woman you are which I categorize as the mother Hen. When you were young you were a 5 - 6 but got banged by guys out of your league who never committed to you. You keot this behavior going into you mid 20's until you looked around and started seeing your friends get into serious relationships and in some case have families, as you hit what I label "No woman's land" (never date a woman between 26 - 29) u started realizing this isn't going to work, your current husband who was proably always around starting becoming visible to you. You guys started out in the friends zone so you could justify having sex w/ other guys but keeping him on the hook. After multiple times of him asking you, you finally agreed to marry him. Once in the marriage you became frustrated accepting he was the best you could do so to justify it you created this belief that you were happy. Like most women it wasn't enough for you to feel happy, other people had to know. So you created this business pretending to help women but really it's just a pathetic attempt to get revenge on HV guys who didn't take you seriously. I suspect your business generates little revenue and is funded mostly by your hisbands bread winning efforts. Not sure why I would listen to guys who are most likely regurgitating positions I invented, when they are claiming "fatigue" Doesn't it sound like they should be listening to me?
Struggling with women is natural for men. That’s how they evolve into something better. The men I choose to work with have more to do with their goals and whether they’re serious about putting in the effort. Lucky for me, I don’t need your permission on who I coach.
You’re fixated on shallow metrics, but remember this topic was about commitment. there's a deeper connection beyond what you’re grasping here. Evolved men and women know how to connect on levels beyond looks, status, or whatever superficial boxes you’re ticking. Maybe you’ve never experienced that kind of depth. Maybe you did and got burned, or maybe you’re just not there as a person yet.
As for your forensic breakdown of my past? Cute try, but you missed the mark. Truth is I had a couple boyfriends in high school. One extended into college, and we tried to build something, but he struggled with mental health challenges that materialized into controlling, paranoid, and judgmental behaviors that he wasn’t willing to manage properly, so I realized I couldn’t manage a future with him.
Then when I met my husband, I stated blogging about my insights and built a small following. Over time, I realized I had a knack for this and started giving advice on my site while developing my content skills and writing for an audience.
That led to learning web development, building my own platform, and eventually expanding into web development work for others. Meanwhile, my audience kept growing, and I saw them facing the same struggles I once had. I wanted to give them more than just my thoughts, so I got my certification as a relationship coach through a program accredited by the ICF. I then taught myself marketing and ended up in digital marketing and content for a cybersecurity and web design firm who also gave me the tools to build my own coaching site and brand.
So I’ve got experience across different fields and wear a lot of hats, and now I’m actually the breadwinner of the house. And I’m happy in that role as long as my husband supports and holds down things at home. That’s how we keep things balanced.
@MzAsh Agreed, that's why men need to go through as many women as possible, that's also why men tend to get more women the older they get vs women who get less attention the older they get. There's no value your position can add men, and youve explained to me your goals are centered around helping women only which is why you shouldn't be advising them.
I think I see your confusion, the original post is about behavior. You're making the mistake most people make of believing your problems are my problems. I doubt I missed the mark, No matter how accurate your insecurities aren't going to allow you to admit the truth. Women tend to minimize their flaws while highlighting their male counterparts I understand this better than most people walking the earth. For instance, the "controlling" part simply means he exercised boundaries and you couldn't handle it, because when peoplehave privilegeany semblance of equality feels unfair. Also you're timeline tells me you're lying, if you met your boyfriend in HS and extended into college got married at 28 what were you doing between the years of 22-23, if the answer was dating your husband, why would it take so long to get married to this supposedly great guy. Another giveaway is the fact that during all the times we've corresponded you've never once mentioned him by name, status or profession. I've been w/ a lot of women bel9nged to other men and the one thing that is universal is that when a woman is w/ a man that she really respects and admires, she can't wait to tell the world about him. The fact thar you haven't tells me you're a bit ashamed of those things and realize providing that info would validate my point.
@MzAsh cont You also may have forgotten we already had this conversation about your business and I told you at the time for $300 bucks anyone can get a "relationship" certification. The barrier for entry doesn't exsist. Compare that to one of my Real Estate licenses. I have to past two test, pay about $600 up front, pay another $1500 annually to stay active, have a clean criminal background, take 36 hours of CE, complet 3 hours of ethics training just to do business, you go online and pay $300. In addition, there are no relationship coaches that have built a service based business by helping females w/ relationships. Men are the market for that service. Remeber I I looked up your business before w/ your states secretary of state. Your company isn't making money of any significance at least in that state. Save both our time by pretending that woman are paying you money to tell them they should settle for a lessor value man.
@MzAsh Your happiness and domestic roles arenot my place to comment on however if you're as happy as you claim why would you feel the need to try to tear down men?
It’s not your place to determine the value of my coaching or dictate who should benefit from it. That decision rests solely with my clients, who find substantial worth in the work we do together. I coach based on demand and merit, not external opinions, and that’s all that needs to be said.
I guide women to choose men who are committed, have proven their reliability in long term relationships, and have honed essential skills like empathy and loyalty. Men with histories of casual encounters simply don’t meet the standards for those seeking stable, enduring partnerships. Smart women prioritize quality and choosing partners whose track records reflect maturity and commitment.
Reflecting on my personal experiences, including my relationship with an ex who battled severe mental health issues, has been foundational in my growth. He was diagnosed with bipolar disorder and paranoid schizophrenia, which manifested in behaviors far beyond simple boundary setting. His refusal to follow his treatment plan, his attempts to limit my social interactions, and accusations born from his paranoia made me realize our future together couldn’t be healthy or safe. It was a tough, but necessary decision to end that relationship, one that taught me the importance of strong boundaries and mental health awareness.
Your assumptions about my past relationships and my husband are misplaced and tellingly inaccurate. I prioritize privacy on personal information and discretion, which is a standard professional practice, not a sign of shame. Suggesting otherwise is a transparent attempt to provoke, a tactic that won’t gain traction with me.
I chose relationship coaching not because it was the easiest path but because it was the right one for developing the skills necessary to make my intended impact. My certification was earned through training up to par with the ICF standards and are backed by continuous professional development, not the minimal standards you’ve attempted to paint.
Lastly, my goal isn’t to tear down men. It’s to empower women to rise and claim their rightful place in relationships and society. If that unsettles some, it might be a cue for self reflection on their part, not a flaw in my approach.
@MzAsh I'm in a service based business so it's definitely my place to determine the value of other would be competitors in that space.
That's a noble cause to attempt to guide women, however biology says that the type of men women want typically are the ones capable of having "casual encounters" in addition there's never been a successful budiness created based soley on the need of the founder. Once again your need to qualify the women that see your pov as "smart" validates my point.
Women always pinpoint the blame of the man in their failed relationships and many times will point to mental health as the issue. This stems from their narrcissim and need to be right. Even if what you are saying is true, what happened to in the other supposed relationships you had b4 finding your husband? I'm simply taking the information provided voluntarily by you and making a hypothesis, which is what most men have to do in order to have success w/ women Whether I'm correct or not only you will know and relevant in the sense that it provides me a perspective of someone claiming to be a subject matter expert. Because of their insecurities if you allow women to talk enough, they will tell on themselves and you have been incongruent w/ several statements. You prioritize personal information, yet publicly share your relationship status? Your husband is a valuable man yet, a 40 yro woman can easily replace him?
@MzAsh Choose whatever path you like, my argument is that your current one isn't successful by the metrics used to define business success. I'm sure you're trained as much as needed to create a relationship service business, my argument is that that training has a low bar for entry because it's not a licensed regulated industry, and anyone with $300 can do it. A drunk drivers goal isn't to cause a car accident however they are still held accountable for their actions. You're business strategy is 100% perpetuated on tearing down men, partly because you have to try to convince women that what they are naturally attracted to is wrong. It's interesting that you believe your actions constitutes another's flaws, this once again highlights the narrcissim, and limited self perspective women have.
My practice is built on my own principles and goals, and that’s how it’s going to stay. I focus on guiding women towards men who value loyalty and commitment, men who choose to be with one woman rather than play the field. That’s the kind of partnership that stands the test of time and it’s what I advocate for.
My ex was clinically diagnosed and his behavior manifested in ways that weren’t just unhealthy, they were dangerous. While i understand it’s easy to toss around mental health as an excuse these days, in his case, it was a real and serious issue.
Admittedly, I wasn’t perfect either. I was too passive, often trying to fix things that were beyond any repair I could handle myself instead of stepping back. I learned the hard way that sometimes, the best move is to protect yourself and walk away.
These two were my only long term, serious relationships. There have been a few short term flings and plenty of first and second dates that didn’t pan out, usually because we just didn’t click or wanted different things out of life.
As I’ve mentioned, I operate with discretion. I’m open about many of my experiences, but I keep personal details about my family’s identity private. I respect their privacy as much as my own.
I agree that anyone can wake up and decide to be a coach. And yes, you can get a basic training for $300. But those aren’t ICF accredited which sets the standard i adhere to. I chose to wait until my own relationship was stable and I had valuable insights that could genuinely help women aiming for long term success in their relationships. I invested in refining my skills to make a real impact, not just to hold a title.
I also understand that my mission might not sit well with those with insecurities, big egos, or an opposing agenda, and that’s fine. I’m here to support those who value what I bring to the table, not to win over everyone.
@MzAsh The argument is that those principles don't according to your state SOS generate revenue. This is partly due to the fact that, your target customer doesn't share them.
I'm sure if we had your ex's side he would claim you were annoying and mildly attractive. The truth lies somewhere in th e middle.
Your attempt to take blame is the standard female humble brag which you look for sympathy by claiming one of your faults is a result of noble attention.
They are kept private because your husband is a nobody. If he we're a somebody then he would be a public figure if even only in his local community.
You validated my original profile which said that you were a 5-6 getting maxed out by HV men. Only difference is you used the word short term fling because you don't want to admit I'm right. In fact this provides me w/ insight about the type of man your husband is, as he's the sump that gets left holding the bag after we're done w/ her. They used to call it putting miles on a broad. Combine that w/ the fact that as you said, he makes less than you and can't replace a 40 yro woman tells me his is w/ you because he doesn't have options.
Those standards equate to essentially $300 certification neither you or your colleagues are required to take continuing education to maintain you certification, which is the pre-requisite of licensed professionals. Also you keep claiming that your "personal" life is private but continue to use it as validation for your business? My argument is that women don't want a man like yours, you barely want him, so it's unlikely they are going to pat you for your advice.
Your mission is your own, concerning yourself w/ the judgment of non customers only highlights your insecurities. What is it that you believe you're bringing to the table?
I stand by my coaching and the real changes it brings to people’s lives, which are far beyond the superficial measures you’re clinging to. My clients and their successes speak volumes, more than enough to drown out any baseless criticism.
Your comments about my personal life and relationships reflect a deliberate misrepresentation of both my professional and personal boundaries.
My husband, whose qualities of honor, respect, cooperation, and loyalty are paramount to me, has my full support and trust. Our privacy and my past relationships are not fodder for public scrutiny or debate. They are part of a respectful, balanced life I choose not to exploit for publicity.
For those who might undervalue a man like mine, they risk remaining miserably single, lacking true partnership in the fleeting relationships they pursue. However, when they’re ready to appreciate what real commitment looks like with a man of quality… when they’re tired of being undervalued and seek a genuinely supportive relationship—Im confident they’ll seek my guidance.
Your assumptions about certification and continuing education are incorrect. Accredited programs, like the ones recognized by the ICF, do indeed require ongoing education and adherence to a code of ethics, which is a standard practice in many professional fields, not just those requiring a license.
Ultimately, the true value and impact of my coaching are validated by those who actively engage with it and see tangible benefits in their lives, not by detractors who choose to misunderstand or misrepresent what I strive to achieve. My focus remains firm on supporting those who appreciate and understand the depth of my work. I’m here to help women discern between men who genuinely align with the principles of a healthy, long term relationship and those driven by superficial, self serving goals.
Thank you for the debate. However, this conversation has run its course, and it’s time to bring it to a close. We’re ending on this note.
Love and adoration