Guys, I need you to be brutally honest, why do you guys prefer average and short women more than tall women?

[AmazonChick171]

Okay so I hear or see comments from men that they prefer petite women because they’re more feminine and attractive. As a 6’4 young woman, I get mistaken for a man and dating sucks. Most people and beauty standards are so CRUEL to tall women. We hear that we’re masculine and manly. Listen here!! Tall WOMEN are women too!
Most guys won’t even look at me or ignore my way and hit on my shorter and petite friends. I had crushes on taller guys and i get rejected and even average and short men reject me. Look I’ve dated shorter men so I’m not picky. I have a preference in taller men. The longest relationship I’ve had was a year in a half with my ex boyfriend who is 5’7, but he dumped me because I emasculated him and I embarrassed him by wearing four inch heels making me 6’8”. Also he was a jerk. So guys, help a tall lady and the other tall ladies out here! What makes us undateable?

[OlderAndWiser]

1. When I was single and actively dating, most of the women who I dated were petite - 5' 0" to 5' 2". I was not making a conscious decision to exclude taller women. In fact, there were two women taller than me who I was interested in dating and both of them rejected me because of my height: 5' 9". Quite average. They wouldn't even give me one date. Many of us have experienced "height discrimination' from taller women. I did date one woman who is as tall as me and was quite happy with her physically.

2. No, I wasn't intimidated by taller women and I found some of them attractive. . . but I didn't find any of them receptive. What he hear so often is that a taller woman will refuse to date a man who is not taller than her. Okay, that's their right, but maybe guys don't approach you or any other taller woman because they already "know" that they don't have a chance of getting a date with you.

3. If you are 6' 4", why would you don cha cha boots to make yourself 6' 8"? Why not just use stilts like an Uncle Sam character and make yourself 8' 4"?

[Berethor]

I answered to your private massage in case you didn't notice. Well I am always brutally honest about your height, you look masculine and manly and you know it, you even call yourself amazon, which is a masculine woman. You can blame nature, women are on average 5 inches taller than women, so tallness is a masculine trait. No one says that you not woman, that you trans or something, even though you look like one, if you able to give birth then you a real woman. At times it seems that you don't understand what masculine means, it manly and man-like, women can be masculine when they are looking and/or acting man-like. You are pretty angry woman, it means that your personality is also pretty masculine. You asking why most men prefer feminine women and not masculine women, it should be obvious, though interestingly I would prefer a short tomboy than a tall woman who wear dresses. Wearing a heel as a huge woman like yourself is an overkill.

https://allthetropes.org/wiki/No_Guy_Wants_an_Amazon

[AmazonChick171]

That is the stupidest thing I have every heard!! That link you sent me is so pathetic! It must have been written by an insecure man that’s ego is hurt because he either got rejected by a tall woman or is jealous of their height. You men are so sad. Go ahead and date shorter women for all I care and is tall women will just be lonely and single for the rest of our lives! That’s just dumb. Did your dad teach you that tall women look masculine?

[AmazonChick171]

Would you judge a short woman for wearing heels? I just answered your question. You hurt my feelings.

[Berethor]

I mean men are on average 5 inches taller than women on average, so tallness is a masculine trait. No my dad didn't teach me that tall women look masculine, I learned it myself. I am no fan of heels in general, they unhealthy, and woman making herself look taller didn't make sense to me, but at least short woman can afford it, as she is not going to look freakishly tall with heels. Here another trope you going to like.

https://allthetropes.org/wiki/One_Head_Taller

[Avicenna]

Who says you’re undateable? Some of us PREFER to date you!

[msc545]

Men who are shorter than you are will avoid you because they assume you will reject them, which is not an unreasonable assumption given that most men are rejected repeatedly by most women for not being good-looking enough or not being wealthy enough, or for (yes) not being tall enough or for many other reasons. Being a man is to live with rejection until you stop asking.

Your rejection experience is horrid and painful, but you are finding out what it feels like to be a man these days.

In response and in the interests of mitigation, I suggest that you begin openly approaching men you are attracted to. This will serve to make your intent and preferences clear to the man, and will mitigate his fear of being rejected yet again. It will not prevent you from being rejected, but that is already happening, so at least this strategy will give you a chance that it will not happen and you may end up with something nice instead.

You are being rejected now because most men cannot conceive of a woman that is taller than they are being attracted to them, and thus they will now approach you. You can solve the problem by approaching them.

My ex, who is still my dear friend, is 6'3" (taller than I am!), and had she not approached me, we would never have gotten together because although I was very attracted to her, I never would have believed it was reciprocal - until she made it clear that it was by approaching me.

Make this happen for you !

[msc545]

** and thus they will NOT approach you

[AmazonChick171]

We’ll I guess that’s it them. Welp I guess I’ll have to accept that I’ll never have a loving lasting relationship. And I guess im just meant to be single.

[msc545]

You COULD try approaching men that interest you. Or you can just keep sulking.

[AmazonChick171]

I do approach guys but as soon as I stand up or when they see me walk toward them, they either get intimidated or walk off. Let’s face it, shorter and average size women have a better chance of longer relationships.

[msc545]

How often do you approach guys?

[AmazonChick171]

Once in a while.

[msc545]

I think you need to do more of it. Is that possible?

[AmazonChick171]

Maybe that’s the problem. Thank you! I appreciate it 💖

[msc545]

I am not particularly tall, good-looking, or rich. If I want a date, I have to approach a lot of women and tolerate a lot of rejection. That is true for most men I know.

[AmazonChick171]

I guess is. You realized I said thank you right? But you ignored it. I guess people isn’t appreciate thankful people.

[msc545]

I am trying to help you. I realize you said thank you and I appreciate that, but I wanted to add something that might encourage you to do something to help yourself. I'm going to ignore your irritability at this point, mostly because given what you've told us about your problem, you have a right to be irritable.

[ClassicDropout]

Okay being brutally honest. I like tall women who will put me in my place and make me submissive. I am like 5'11 and I want a girl like 6'1 . I also look better when I'm looking up vs looking down, so that's also a reason I prefer taller girls. I am very aware that I'm a super small minority of guys, and it's because most guys probably want control more than anything. Control meaning, they want to be able to pick you up and move you around as they please during sex or just in general. Like carry you in their arms and stuff. Public image is also a reason. Lots of people will make fun of a guy who has a taller girl because that's just how this crappy world works.

[RavVid]

Women like men to be taller and men like women to be shorter. I asked one very tall guy I know why he went for very short girls. "Isn't a bit awkward in bed? If you laid on top of her you'd smother her".

He said "I didn't pick them. They picked me". Men prefer less height gap than women do - 3" vs 6-8". Actual height differences in couples are nearer to female preference. The shorties win.

Guys tend to end up with girls who are nice to them is the underlying dynamic. So a short nice girl has a good shot.

For myself I do want to feel physically dominant over my girl. As well as height that includes body mass. So I very much do want slender. I am not so bothered by height so long as I am taller. But I would appreciate still being taller if she was all dressed up and in heels.

[Staximus]

Most women want a man who is taller than them, and most men want a woman who is shorter than them. That's just the way it is. Only 2% of guys in the U. S. are taller than you, and like 0.05% of women. Move to the land of the tall people like the Netherlands or something. I'm short and a bunch of my friends are tall. When we used to go out to bars, the girls would be gawking at them like I was invisible. I looked like the coach of a damned basketball team. We all have our problems. Being tall or short is really not that big of a problem in the grand scheme of things, we could have no legs or something.

[DryGermanGuy]

You can ask it a hundred times, but it still applies: Different guys actually prefer different heights or other features. And the fact that you still insist on wearing high heels, despite the negative feedback from guys, puts you almost into trolling category. What's with this stubbornness?

[AmazonChick171]

Because I am so sick and tired of being rejected and being bullied and getting shit for being a 6’4 woman.

[DryGermanGuy]

“The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result.”
- Narcotics Anonymous

[bnonymous]

I don't, but then again, I'm well over 6' tall. I met my wife at a dance (I was about 6'5" then), and noticed her because she towered over the otherwise much shorter women there (although she was actually the one who sat down next to me and introduced herself, much to my surprise and ultimate delight). She did tell me that she noticed my height.

[AmazonChick171]

Your wife is a very lucky woman.

[bnonymous]

Thank you. I do my best, and I consider myself lucky to be married to her (28 years; it will be 30 years since we met on Christmas Eve 1994). Unfortunately, she has stage 4 cancer which was diagnosed a few years back, and things are very difficult, but I certainly do everything I can to keep moving things forward. There have been a couple of times when doctors, PAs, and so forth have commented favorably on things I've done (take exceptional care of a drain tube, create a spreadsheet to track certain health issues) that I take real pride in on my behalf and that of our aides. But it's certainly not an easy time. It has brought us closer together, but I won't deny that I'm really frightened.

[AmazonChick171]

Oh no I’m so sorry to hear that. Sending thoughts and prayers

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

Brutally honest?
Then: You seem obsessed by this topic, as you constantly put it on front, I think obsession is really not the way to live better 😶

[AmazonChick171]

Not helpful enough. I need to really know why guys won’t give a 6’4” woman like me a chance. I always end up single and my petite friends are in relationships.

[Maybe_Maybe_not]

We've talked about this before, and many people here sympathized with your situation, me included. I think you heard also enough that comparing yourself systematically like this will not help you go out of this cage called obsession.

Please, again, consider that you have no power over people's tastes. The power you have is to let this obsession go, close this chapter and simply live with how you are. I know it's easy to say but it is the best help I can give in these circumstances

[BetaBucks]

It's not helpful because you won't listen. People keep telling you the same thing and you keep going on. You've heard every answer possible and there's nothing left to say. I'm not trying to be mean to you, because I feel your pain. But at a certain point, enough has to be enough. You have to accept the things you cannot change.

[Anonymous]

Some of us have been brutally honest with you. But the chip on your shoulder doesn’t let the sound to reach your ear. Don’t lump every man into the same category. When we are not alike!
Since we haven’t seen how you dress. Maybe you need to dress more feminine and throw away your high heels 👠. Get rid of your attitude and act like a like able woman and some nice guy may want to get to know you!

[AmazonChick171]

Why should I get ride of my heels? Would you tell a short or average height woman to get ride of them? For your information I DO dress feminine. I don’t have an attitude!

[Opinion Owner]

@amazonchick171. I don’t really care what people wear. But don’t complain when your feet or legs hurt at the end of the day. As for you wanting to be shorter. Why wear heels to be taller? Every time that you would bump your head while wearing heels. I would say, “Good for you!” Hope it hurts!
You need to look in a mirror sometime.

[AmazonChick171]

You’re an asshole! 😭😭😭😭

[Opinion Owner]

@amazonchick171. Thank you! Best compliment that I had all day! You did say to be honest.

[AmazonChick171]

Wow…. you want me to be hurt? Look nobody judges short and average women for wearing heels so why give tall women shit for it!

[Opinion Owner]

@amazonchick171. I am tall enough that I have to always be looking overhead to avoid some lumps. You say that you wish to be shorter. But like to wear heels. Thereby putting yourself into head bumping territory. Since you are causing your own problems. That is why I would laugh at you!

[AmazonChick171]

😳😳😳😳😳😳😳😳

[Opinion Owner]

I know of women who ruined their feet by wearing high heels all of the time. If a short woman would break an ankle because they of wearing heels. I wouldn’t feel much sympathy for her either!

[AmazonChick171]

Good you’re so mena

[AmazonChick171]

Meqn

[AmazonChick171]

Mean

[exitseven]

honestly- I do not consider height. If a girl was attractive and nice I would get on a step stool to kiss her.

[AmazonChick171]

I wish more guys were like you.

[HighValue]

Are you athletic and into physical sporty activities? If you are, maybe try dating one of the rare tall wrestlers. Get a backstage pass ticket to meet them. I don't know what else to suggest.

[Nerdvana]

Sorry, you have to go through this. It's not fair. I am sure you are a very beautiful and sexy woman. But to be fair, a lot of women prefer tall men. Dating can suck, if you are average height for a guy. I am 5'9

[strateguy632]

Maybe you mean tall men? Average tall men get rejected by tall gals.

[AmazonChick171]

There’s no such thing as average tall men. The average height of an American man is about 5’9.

[Fireguy17]

as long as they have a great personality the rest doesn't matter.
For me, ok maybe 3' tall is too short.
I'm 6" and have been with women 4'8" and 6'4" and it never mattered.

[Ironic_Method]

Easier to throw around!

I wouldn't mind being with a taller woman, though. As long as it doesn't bother her, I'm all for it.

[Pohjolan]

Its not that I would consider a tall woman undateable but I'm less likely to get rejected if I make a move on a shorter gal.

To quote: I have a preference in taller men.

[Intheclouds00]

Never bothered me, but a lot of guys are intimidated by tall women.

[AmazonChick171]

What did we do? It’s not our fault that we’re tall.

[Intheclouds00]

It only affects weak men, I would consider it a filter

[Danny_dan92]

Me personally I’m not tall so that’s why for me

[AmazonChick171]

Fair enough

[Alex-Snow]

I don't. I like girls and height does not really matter to me

[Anonymous]

I assume it's because most guys aren't tall. That's my reasoning anyway. It doesn't get any deeper than that.

[AmazonChick171]

I guess so. Even my brothers (6’7 and 6’8) wives are both petite.
My mom who’s 5’8 (used to be 5’10) got lucky because she is with my dad who’s 6’4 or 5. (used to be 6’7).

[renodnol32]

I don't. I've always preferred taller women. Never dated shorter than 5'7. The tallest i dated was 6'2.

[Reijen]

I could see others finding it intimidating.
Also that tall women may have a preference for taller men.

[PeterLegg91]

Some not all guys , me personally I'd be embarrassed being with a mega tall girl 6ft the tallest for me

[Logan2000]

Must be because of insecurity. Tall girls are beautiful

[LiamJHayden]

A lot of guys do prefer shorter for whatever reasons. Some don't care.

[shortster]

Nothing. You have just been going after insecure guys.

[Twalli]

Because you generally want men who are taller than you, and there aren't a lot.

[Anonymous]

I actually prefer taller girls, because they tend to be more dominant.

[MicahRaine]

Literally it doesn't matter to me.

[RowdyYates]

You don’t need a reason to like things.