Does a man actually gain anything by staying in the friendzone?

[Phunk_Fenomenon]

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most women are now claiming that men getting friendzoned is actually a "gift" to them. but if you ask me the only one that is benefiting from that gift is women themselves.

if a woman friendzones a man she can still use him for...

money

free dates

protection

emotional support

and any other freebie that a real boyfriend has to offer while the man himself gets nothing from her in return. if you ask me this sounds more like a liability and a burden instead of a real "gift"

[Chazmatazz269]

If a dude is naturally masochistic, he will likely find some satisfaction in the manipulation and abuse of being friend-zoned by a woman with whom he wants more than friendship.
Otherwise, the friend zone exclusively or primarily benefits one person more than the other.
The person intent on using the other is definitely the one who might suggest that their mere presence is some kind of a “gift”.

[Coercion_Is_Trauma]

If you ask me, your mind is just looking for logic to explain away what your nervous system already decided to do anyway. Which is to follow your father's steps who made a single mom. And this is not an insult. Following steps of our parents is the default of all humans. Your feelings are forcing you to be this way no matter what your mind thinks, or i should say thinks it is thinking while the subconscious thinks its own thing. ㅤ

[Phunk_Fenomenon]

my father did not create a single mom, on the contrary my mom chose to be single

[Coercion_Is_Trauma]

Still then your nervous system is wired as if that's the norm. No matter how perfectly logical your approach to dating is, that wiring will always sabotage everything.

And the solution involves blaming both your parents still because he didn't save you. And he should've. There are no excuses for not being a perfect parent, it is wrong 100% of the time. If you believe that any law or illness excuses it then your body will generate the conditions under which excuses are applicable to follow their steps, on the surface seemingly completely out of your personal control.

[OneViewpoint]

Sure, be in the friend zone if you need a friend.

• But you can be as responsive or unresponsive as you want to text and voicemail.
• Girlfriends take priority over friends.
• Friends pay their own way.
• I don't loan friends money.
• I don't buy friends gifts or flowers.
• I don't want to listen to my friends relationship problems.
• I'm not an emotional support freebie for friends.
• My friends don't expect me to show up and fix shit without any notice. Call a plumber.

See how long she wants to be friends.

[Sevenpointfive]

you don't usually pay for your friends. it happens but buying friendship is not healthy. if a girl hangs out with you one on one they usually want more. it's just how it is.

[fishbone77]

I don't even think she'd be a good "friend"

[Cidknee]

Ah, but he can do the same. I've done it. And you may find a great friend like i did.