Can you say the N word While sing along to a song (Black people please answer) ?

[Stoner710]

I listen a lot of rap music that have the N word in it when I’m trying to rap with them I say the N word hole trying to rap along with the songs. Supposedly this is controversial I don’t say it toward anyone I don’t use it outside rapping along to a song I’ve know people like my brother who is half black thatnits offensive to not say what’s on paper That this is how this song was meant to be sung so Even if there is an offensive word in it you should say anyway otherwise you were not being respectful of the original artist (I was adopted both my parents and white my adopted mom married a black guy n the 70s had my brother and sister her x husband cheated so she divorce him and met my dad in the 1980s I was adopted in 98) so can you say the N word while singing along to a song?

[MCheetah]

Yes. I hereby give out all N-word passes, to all the white people, LOL! All the rest of you niggas need to stop letting a word control your lives! It's just a word; lots of worse sh*t out there than Pavlovian triggers that rhymes with "jigger."

Also, there is a difference between "nigga" and "n**." The former is a reclamation of the latter, which rappers started using in the late 80s and early 90s as a way to de-power the latter word. It's a term of endearment that means "my good friend." But it can also mean "an uneducated, thuggish black man." Until retarded, stupid SJW's came along and got triggered by everything, "nigga" by definition was NOT supposed to be offensive! And unless you ARE a stupid-ass SJW, it's not.

The word with a hard-R, is th "offensive word," although I don't let it bother me, because context. Anyone who says that word outside of its historical context, is TRYING to trigger you, so why would you let them? It's a two-syllable mouth sound. There are words that CAN piss me off, if looked at that way, but hard-R is not one of them, cause I know people's intent behind it, and choose not to get bothered by it.

And if I'm not a good enough black person to listen to, in order to move past people's insecurities controlling them and letting their "racial fears" control them, how about God?

Anyone from the hood can be a "nigga," LOL! It's a song lyric. Stop making a big deal out of mouth sounds without context, niggas.

https://www.youtube.com/embed/GeixtYS-P3s

[MCheetah]

The Boondocks had it right, all along. (Yeah, I know it's from a real news story.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAtv9IW0mo0

[pigoat]

You should be able to if it's in the song

Look how mad Kendrick lemar got when he chose to bring a white girl on stage to have her rap one of his songs that has the N word in it

Publicity stunt?

I don't know but they should know that other colored people gonna like their music

Otherwise restrict it to black people only

Wtf lmao

[Stoner710]

Yea I know Hopsin ripped into Kendrick about that saying you put the word in the song how are you gonna expect fans not to sing itn

[DizzyDesii]

I would prefer my nonblack friends not say the N word. I respect this one music video where the white guys rapped and then covered their mouth to avoid saying the N word. It was kinda funny but very respectful in my opinion. And even if you dont beep out the word then say “ninja” or something. At the end of the day, do what you want but im just stating what would make me comfortable had you been my personal friends

[DizzyDesii]

If a rapper sang “I’m a nazi, I’m a kkk member, etc” then hell no im not singing along. I’d skip that whole verse

[Stoner710]

I agree the slower rappers it easy to skip over it (slower I mean biggie Smalls Tupac little Wayne drake ). But when you start listening to faster rapper (twista ces cru tech n9ne and especially twisted insane twisted insane being the main one). It hard not to the guy is the fastest rapper in the world and with him and how much he says the N word he makes it impossible to rap along with him without saying it.

Also I was alway taught it’s disrespectful not to say what’s on the page or your quoting

[Stoner710]

Also if I heard a rapper saying he’s a KKK member I would probably never listen to that rapper again

[DizzyDesii]

Its not hard to not say the N word. You cna pause or skip the word or say ninja

[Stoner710]

Not with twisted insane he uses the world 5 times in 2 sentences in all his raps he raps so fast if you skin 5 seconds a head your basically skipping through an entire page or the some twisted insane is the main one you cannot skip over of course anybody who’s faster than Tech N9ne is hard to skip over he’s fourth fastest rapper in the world

[DizzyDesii]

you're just making excuses. I grew up on rap and listened to people like Twista and Eminem. Its not hard to substitute the word or skip over it when singing along. And yes im a black woman and my mother did not allow us to say the N word

[Stoner710]

Yea my mom didn’t allow me to listen to rap as a kid to be honest it was Christian music or nothing I couldn’t stand it. My bother and his girlfriend say it all the time my sister doesn’t say it my nephew says it when he gets killed in fortnite.

Of course Eminem never said it as far as I’m a ware of course I started listening to him when I moved out. twista doesn’t say it as much as twisted insane twista say it once or twice in his songs but with twisted insane no one could sing along to him without saying it because he says it so often that it makes it impossible to skip over it’s almost impossible to rap with him he can rap 20 pages I’m 4 minutes he’s pretty much the only rapper that make it hard to skip over any word unless you have completely memorized the song

[DizzyDesii]

Eminem did say it looong ago and he got hatred for it for a while. Like i said its not hard to substitute the word

[Stoner710]

As he should have, white people shouldn’t be putting it in there lyrics I wish black people won’t so you could say all the words in there songs. The best solution here is really just to get rid of the word entirely. Now we all know the alt right is never going to do that. Maybe we should start following the example of people like Clarence Thomas Candace Owens Thomas sowell Condoleezza rice.

[DizzyDesii]

Okay so you just answered your own question. If white people shouldn't put it in their lyrics then white people or whatever you are should also not be saying the word. Yes black people shouldn't say the word either but they still do and i wouldn't be surprised if u still do as well. Just know i find it disrespectful. End of story

[Stoner710]

That’s fair I’ve noticed not a lot of Jamaica rap artist don’t use the world like Jay prince Vybz Kartel Jaffa’ss, I wonder why that it’s. If the use of the world an American thing?

[DizzyDesii]

Americans were the ones who used it rudely in the past. Blakc americans tried to take power over the word and make it all slang with an A instead of ER ending. Either way, nonblack people should just not say the word and black people should know that others will want to use it to be “hip/cool” if they see us using it

[Stoner710]

So it’s pretty much an American thing, that is pretty sad

This is very true, I had a friend named Jayquan back in high school who told my friend Anthony to call him the N-word and so when Anthony saw Jayquan on the streets he said what up My (you know) and he almost got punched by Jayquan‘s friend. So my friend Anthony thought it was perfectly fine to say.

Also I was forgot there’s that the Difference (A) and the ER part How lotta rappers he is the slang version

[DizzyDesii]

Yea well this girl andrea in college kept sayin NIQQAAAAA OMG LEMME TELL YOU WHAT HAPPENED TODAY... and theother white girls were like WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT IN FRONT OF DESI? Then that little hoe replied OH she's MORE WHITE THAN BLACK? Like excuse me what. So i told her, no im happily black but its best you stop saying the word before u come across the wrong one. So the next day, she says it again in front of our other black classmate. That girl was like I KNOW DIS BISH didn't JUST SAY NIQQA. DESI YOU BETTER GET YOUR FRIEND BEFORE I POP HER IN THE FCKIN MOUTH. I was like NAHH THAT ain't MY FRIEND. Lmao

[Stoner710]

Yea we’ve entered a period where white people want to be black and black people want to be white ( or in the case of Elizabeth Warren she wants to be native) , So white people try to start “acting black”; when it just makes them look stupid. I don’t think a lot of people understand we’re all human and we should all be treated as individual. But what you see is people try to lump people into group identity especially politically, This is why people like joe Biden can get away with saying incredible racist things like “if you don’t vote for me your not black”. It’s like what does he think black people not have Agency in their own lives? What about people like Clarence Thomas I’m sure he didn’t vote for Joe Biden has he not black? It’s a really stupid game that we play in this country politically

[DizzyDesii]

I mean Biden said actual ER word back then and there's no way he’d get my vote. Like wtf. Trumps rude af in general and wouldn't get my vote either

[Stoner710]

Yea this is why I voted for Jo Jorgensen she was the libertarian candidate I can’t stand the Democrats party right now and Trump is a loud mouth who isn’t the best representative of the United States. The reason he won was Obama play this intersectional politics game with people so they elected Donald Trump in order to give the middle finger to the Democrats. Maybe will get Kanye next or Candice Owens although I think right now she’s more focused of the blexit movement (blexit is the movement she start to get black people out of the Democrats party she took the name from Brexit and turned into blexit)

[DizzyDesii]

Nobody wants kanye sellout ass and we def dont want the kardashians running the white house. I voted for the American Soliditary party although i knew they wouldn't win either. Jo didn't represent my beliefs

[Stoner710]

make since i tend to want little to no government control, take gay marriage for example i dont think the government has a role to play in people's relationships be it gay or straight as long as there going to be handing out tax benefit for married couples it make since to give it to both gay and straight couples rather then only recognizing only straight couples and getting the tax benefits for straight couples and not gay couples. but ultimately I don't think it's the governments right to decide who anyone falls in love with and I don't think it's right for the government to decide whether a relationship is legitimate or not.

The government should be telling people what they are allowed to put into their bodies if someone wants to smoke weed as long as they're not hurting anybody I don't see a reason why the government should be telling people not to smoke weed.

I don't think the government should be telling you what religion you have to follow, as long as your religion doesn't involve human sacrifice I think you should be able to practice your religion anyway you want.

the only role i think the government should have is protecting its borders and a prosecuting people who commit acts of murder rape or theft.

so another words I support gay marriage, legal weed and a very limited government that hardly affects the lives of there citizens, i even think the income tax is to much i would personal issue a national sales tax beyond that i would let everyone keep as much money as they can and put it back into the economy. say you make 60,000 a year and you pay 10% of your income that is 6,000 dollars the government is taking from you imagine what you could do with that $6000 if you had it in your own pocket rather than having to give it to the government

[DizzyDesii]

I dont support weed and i am not interested in normalizing gay/lgbt stuff. But do i care if they go marry, no. I just dont think gay acts belong in kids shows and stuff like that. If religion can't be taught in schools then stop trying to normalize other stuff in tv shows and crap. I think everyone should pay the same amount in taxes regardless of who makes more

[Stoner710]

thats fair im kinda a live and let live guy. pretty much do what you want. as long as your not hurting others. and yes homosexuality doesn't need to be show in kids shows or on tv or movies. i agree with you there

as far as taxes it sounds you would be more in favor of a flat tax where everyone is the same tax percentage. like say you make 100 dollars anf the tax rate is 10% then you pay 10$ if you make 1000 you pay 100 if you make 10,000 you pay 1000 100,000 you pay 10,000 that kind of tax

[DizzyDesii]

Yea im good with a flat tax rate

[Dreamy2020]

No, you can't. Even though it is in the song. A lot of celebrities have gotten backlash for singing along to songs containing the N word. Only black people can say the N word.

[Stoner710]

Ok so if it disrespectful to say but at the same time disrespectful not to quote exactly what’s on the page how do you sing along to rap

[MCheetah]

Yeah, he can. How you gonna stop him? You're Australian; your opinion doesn't count, LOL!

[Dreamy2020]

@MCheetah Are you black?

[Dreamy2020]

Who said it is disrespectful to not quote the sang? I don't agree with them either. If the N-word is used in the songs, we should be able to sing it. But it is their choice. If they don't want it to be used by white people, then it is not hard for people to respect it.

[MCheetah]

Nobody on the internet is going to pretend to be black just to type "nigga." Yes, I'm black, though my penis thinks otherwise. :(

Like I told someone else, trying to "forbid white people from speaking" says more about you than them. It's a mouth sound. Often with appropriate context (song lyrics, in this case). People need to get their f*cking priorities straight and stop acting like Pavolv's dogs.

Also, you're still Australian. A country that never had black slavery. Even if you were black, your "authority" who could say it or not is still invalid.

[Stoner710]

Yea he’s a black guy
I was talking about this at work and they said it was disrespectful to use it even if your quoting a song and your suppose to listen, they said it was like an audiobook my response was I usually don’t listen to an audiobook again I like music where you actually listen to it to be able to know the words and sing along to the tune

[Virgo31]

No you can’t, no if’s ands or buts. It’s offensive if you do.

[Stoner710]

Ok so since it’s disrespectful to say it but at the same time it’s disrespectful not to quote exactly what is written down how do you sing along to rap

[MCheetah]

@Virgo31
I revoke your claim and hereby give all out N-word passes to all white people. You just want to hoard them, cause it makes you feel powerful, don't you?

[Virgo31]

@MCheetah why would it make me feel powerful exactly? @Stoner710 it’s disrespectful when people other than African Americans use it due to its history of being a racial slur against us for over 400 years. Almost no word compares to how awful it is.

[Stoner710]

I’m wondering where we’re getting this 400 years thing. Don’t make me get into a history lesson trying to debunk Nicole Hannah Jones. I can’t stand that women. Of course I prefer women like Candice Owens or Condoleezza Rice.

I am well aware of the history it just seems impossible to listen to twisted insane it and saying without saying it because he says it’s so often that the song would not make any sense if you skipped it. Of course also talks about killing people way before MySpac

[MCheetah]

@Virgo31
You're 14. You literally aren't even old enough to remember 9/11. You have very likely experienced little-to-no racial discrimination in your lifetime. I'm twice your age, from an absolute sh*thole of a city, and almost never have. Like I said, insecure black people just want to have power over white people by telling them "you're not ALLOWED to say this, cause i say so," as if saying 'nigga' changes anything. What if @Stoner710 just says it? "Nigga." Whoops! Did the half world blow up yet and we get Biden for a second term? What would happen? Nothing. But sure, keep playing the "that hurts me fee-fees!" card when literally every other rapper says Nigga a 116 times in an average rap song.

I hate hypocrisy.

[Virgo31]

@MCheetah you are allowed to believe what you want. This conversation is over.

[Stoner710]

that fair, i wonder why americans artists use it all the time when (little wayne drake twisted insane for examples) for jamaican artists dont use it (jar prynse vybz Kartel Jaffurs as examples) also to notice British artists dont use it as well like KSI it seems to be only americans who use it is music. even South African artist like a condom dont use it

[MCheetah]

@Stoner710
Well, as I said, it was a reclaimed word from the Hard-R N-word, meant to depower it."Nigga" by its literal purpose, is not supposed to be offensive. That's by rappers started using it, and why it's a different word from the Hard-R one. Since there was no black slavery in other countries outside of the US (at the time), the Hard-R N-word has no real history or meaning behind it.

[Stoner710]

@MCheetah yea there was black slavery in other countries the young Turk (not the news station) kept black and white slavery the Turks would bring little boys from different parts of there empire including North Africa and force them to become janissaries they were a mix of white black and middle eastern slave soldiers there was still slavery in China, Vietnam Britten up until I believe 1833. It was also the British that brought the first slavers to there colonies and it got to the point where the southern economy was completely reliant on slavery for food and cloths and had it not been for the 3/5th clause the south would have controlled the government to the point where we might have slavery today had that clause not been adopted. Now we had 84 years of slavery (1776-1860). Before the civil was broke out after the the civil war slaves were freed by the Republican Party. Everyone understands slavery was and is a horrible thing no one except Richard Spencer or David duke would say that it was ok (leaders of the alt right and the KKK). (Sorry historian always need to give historical context ).

Also I’m pretty sure if white people said the N world ending in A rather then the one ending in a hard R I’m sure we would still get punched

[MCheetah]

"Also I’m pretty sure if white people said the N world ending in A, rather then the one ending in a hard R, I’m sure we would still get punched."

Yeah, by stupid people who don't get it. Most of humanity are stupid.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAtv9IW0mo0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHAfW8rjVhg

[Stoner710]

@MCheetah lol this is very true most humans are stupid.

[4eyes2mouths]

Not these days lol everyone is offended. I remember listening to MSI in high school and Jimmy urine who is white says the N word in a few of his songs and no one cared. If he came out with those songs today he would get mobbed.

[420Rachel]

I don't care. 🤷 As long as you're not trying to actually offend anyone I honestly don't care. All this PC/SJW bullshit gives me a headache.

[HelloThereAwesome]

I agree with this 100%...
We have built a world where you can't say anything without offending someone.. and being officially declared a sexist.. or racist... etc

[420Rachel]

Right? I guess people just can't make mistakes anymore otherwise you get labeled as the worst person alive pretty much.

[HelloThereAwesome]

Exactly!!
but on the flipside, it appears that certain groups can get away with ANYTHING (even clear racism) and never have it labelled as such

To be honest..
I consider a lot of the perspectives being pushed by organizations like the BLM as clearly racist
^ White Fragility or Privilege for example..
Or that White people can't speak about race.. or must suffer consequences for the actions of their ancestors..
Supposedly even some schools teach that White people are inherently racist
and there is even an attempt to rewrite history (Project 1619 for example, which suggests America was founded officially when it first brought slaves.. and not the Revolution 150+ years later... and that the Revolution was actually only about slavery and racism... etc etc).. It was heavily discredited by Historians (even a Proof Reader of Project 1619 claimed she went in corrections and they were unwilling to change the errors)... long story short it ended up winning a Pulitzer Prize haha

the point is
If you have a problem with White people,
then its perfectly acceptable today

[420Rachel]

It certificate seems that way. Seems like it's a mistake to even be white and that if you are white you're not allowed to talk about racial issues at all. Maybe some of us actually just want to HELP? 🙄 Fortunately I've never actually come across anyone that thinks that way. I think that it should be ok to be discussed among all people. Because in the end that's all we are, people. When engaging in social interactions I'm always nice to everyone until they give me a reason not to be.

[HelloThereAwesome]

I worked in an inner city (mostly black) school for several years. MOST of my coworkers were good people... some of them were racist (and they were typically Black people who wanted nothing to do with me).
Some of the kids were VERY racist against any White staff members...
and the Administrators (the Principal was Black. and so was the Superintendent) would often claim racism and threaten job security if they felt "racism" was being practiced
^ for example.. a large proportion of students in detention were black... and SO naturally it must be "Racist" (instead of those students just acting a fool)... stuff like that
and honestly there were so many protections of students in general that is no surprise that a lot of kids act the way they do
^ I was even expected to write answers for students if they didn't want to do it (No joke...)

but I saw a lot of those concepts slowly creeping into the schools.. and it honestly scared the shit out of me.

Because it really does seem like
as a White person
you have to accept responsibility for EVERY problem
you have to have your past absolutely destroyed
denied that you have a culture
you must accept that you STEAL everything you have...
etc

I hope these concepts disappear.. and we can return to the common sense era that I remember in my college days.. o. o
ideas like this only 5+ years ago. . seemed to be on the fringes
but now they are sadly mainstream

[420Rachel]

Shit. Whatever happened to treating people the way you want to be treated? It doesn't get any simpler than that. There's no need for "racism" of any kind. No need to push this blm agenda and the LGBT agenda. Just accept people for who they are and treat them with kindness.

[HelloThereAwesome]

Exactly?

and the greatest irony is how
ONCE upon a time we were suppose to treat all as the same.. and look beyond race.. or sexuality.. or gender...
but then all of a sudden
you are not allowed to do that? We must divide up people by their sexuality.. or race.. or gender... and then consider the individuals as parts of a monolith (like all black people act this way, deal with this problem, suffer from this.. etc).. and any individuals of that monolith that say it doesn't represent them are then misguided (so a black person who doesn't feel oppressed is then an uncle tom)
it creates a very awkward prejudice in the guise of equality

I consider myself fairly "leftist" in most of my views
but I recognize that many of the left... actually hold very prejudiced perspectives of minorities
^ for example... Black people are incapable of succeeding WITHOUT White help (and its the White persons racism.. or failure.. that causes the black persons weakness)
^ which is not only racist against white people..
but it is very ironically racist against minorities by assuming they have an inability to succeed

Sooo.. its just funny to me

but I love all people
i dont care if they are white or black
or gay or straight

I mean I have a lesbian friend (well use to.. until she ripped me off. o. o... haha) but I dont judge her on the basis of her sexuality? but by her actions
same goes for all other people

to me thats a very basic principle that we have lost.

and now everything is about where you rank on the victim chart

[HelloThereAwesome]

I could rant about this all day...
Would you ever be comfortable messaging me? :)

[420Rachel]

Yes! Sorry haven't been on here most of the day

[Stoner710]

I see a connection here let me know what happens good luck you to ;) jk

[HelloThereAwesome]

no problem :)

[nerdybutlazy]

No, you can't it's still an offence if you're not black or at least mixed race. Besides, you can listen to the clean versions you really want to sing alone

[Anonymous]

If the N word is that bad no one should be using it.

[MCheetah]

If the N word is so bad, EVERYONE should be using it until it loses all its power. The hard-R word was changed into Nigga LITERALLY for this very purpose. But then, SJW's had to go ahead and claim it's "offensive" again.

Words have no meaning without context. It's like saying "Chortzwiggle is a racist and offensive word that hurts and demeans our people!" Words are meaningless until you ADD meaning to them, and "nigga" has no meaning on its own. It's just a word. I f*cking hate how stupid the majority of humanity and supposed "grown adults" are, though.

[MysteriousDarkness]

Just do not say it since it is highly disrespectful and racist. To bad if you can not sing a song because it. On the flipside they should think maybe other races might by their music and sing or rap along with it.

[Stoner710]

This is very true, Jamaican artist don’t say it why can’t Americans not say the word, Like what little Wayne said most of his fans are white so I don’t think if your singing along to his long he would mind, Hopsin told his white fans to say it if there sing along to his songs, his point was the same as yours why put it in the song and then expect white people not to say the word will sing along to the song, hopsin and Kendrick Lamar had a huge twitter fight over this

[Anonymous]

Anyone of any skin color can say the "N-word" anytime they want. You just shouldn't CALL anyone that slang word. It's considered rude and impolite.
But it's not nearly as bad as saying a CUSS word. The same thing goes with "honky" and "cracker"

[Opinion Owner]

Rather than calling it the "N-word", I should have simply said "A slang word for Negro". Because there are at least 3 slang words for "Negro"

[Anonymous]

I feel like I should only call black people niggers when I'm listening to rap music of black people calling themselves niggers.
It just makes sense.

[Anonymous]

My boyfriend is black and I've dated several black guys.
They like when I call them n** in the bedroom.
I don't see why it's so bad.
I say it, so it would be hypocritical if other white people can't.

[Opinion Owner]

*niggers, sorry.

[MysteriousDarkness]

Go up to a group of black people and say it to them and see what happens. Calling them that is racist. Does not matter if the ones you have been with lets you call them that or not.

[Stoner710]

@MysteriousDarkness I think that’s more individuals then the group as a whole, One of my best friends in highschool he told his friends to call him my Nword I refused to say it my friend didn’t he almost got his ass kicked

[Anonymous]

No and black people shouldn't use it in front of white people because it puts a message out there that it's a term of endermeant.

[Heavenly_]

Well i just prefer listening to that though lol

[cjgsu]

Absolutely not

[Iron_Man]

Ask permission

[Stoner710]

From who?

[Iron_Man]

The brotherhood

[OceanMelon]

I don't care