They act like this show is only possible in America and America only has plots like this because america's only place that you don't get free healthcare it just proves they watch no media from any other country at all.
Japan Has multiple series with a plot line that someone needs to pay medical bills and that's why they're doing this. Paranoia Agent One of the main characters wife will not get a surgery because it will bankrupt the family. doctor stone one of the main characters reason to be an underground fighter Is to pay his sister's medical bills.
Korea solo leveling The main character works a very dangerous job to afford his mother's healthcare bills.
Why do liberals believe the breaking bad health care meme when it's just not true?
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Well stated. In fact, as a teacher, the character of Walter White DID have good health care benefits (teacher pay is often not great, but the health care benefit and "STRS" retirement packages for teachers are something else). The show was actually explicit about this.
What Walter White *really* wanted was a *massive* monetary nest egg for himself, but also for his wife and son to take when he thought he would die. Not something he could get under socialized medicine. He also wanted to stoke his ego and prove something to himself as the show progressed, even after he beat the cancer.
In the series flashbacks, Walter White had been a partner in a budding corporation called "Gray Matter", and it looked like he had a promising University academic career, but he had lost out on both, and he had settled for a mediocre job as a high school chemistry teacher. This grated on him and his foray into money making by meth making was in large part also driven by a desire for a form of revenge, as well as a sense that if he was doomed to cancer anyway, why not.
People forget that the show was a morality story of a man making a Faust like bargain in its structure.
Moreover, in a more realistic version of that UK cartoon, Walter White would be sent home by the British NHS with painkillers and told to wait his turn, and British Walter White would likely die whilst on the waiting list for his cancer operation.
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Yhat's true as a teacher he would have free health care some of the best in America teacher are very highly paid in America it's quite funny most people don't know this but that literally wasn't the question it's more about the stupidy of liberals
Both Japan and South Korea have universal healthcare. Japan's from memory covers up to about 90% assuming you are working and potentially more if you can not afford it. South Korea's covers all.
A plot like Breaking Bad does not technically make sense in countries like these which would not cripple your family because someone got sick while also having the world's best healthcare (South Korea won that award). So they are obviously doing something right. However the notion that it Could cost money is not alien to anyone. I have never paid a single cent for healthcare but I am still very well aware it Could cost money. And so a plot where it does is still perfectly understandable.
As for the underlying free vs paid healthcare debate I think most here are missing the mark. A bottle of insulin in the U. S costs about 100$ average. That same bottle in the UK if you pay for it yourself costs about 7-7.5$. That is the actual difference between healthcare focused on making a profit or not. There is nothing wrong with privately run healthcare. What is wrong is the exorbitant profit they seek to obtain.
7.5$ a bottle covers all the costs of production and distribution (and more!). 100$ only serves to line someone's pockets. Really that is what it comes down to.
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No it doesn't you clearly don't know the law they both cover about 70% and if you cannot pay the others 30% yourself you go without
Yes it costs so much in America thanks to government regulations creating monopolies get government out of it health care is cheap as you can see with pet insurance
Really sort of a non-issue as if you are right that makes your own example very poorly chosen and if I am right we are still on the exact same topic. Absolute non-issue.
To answer the actual question most people can understand a concept even if it is not actively practiced. It would still have a different practical application so the meme is correct anyway and the stories with this theme work. As for reality and USA it is yhe profit that is bad. If the profit was largely removed it would all be fine.
It's actually the full profit is good it makes competition the problem is we have government involved that just give him monopoly get rid of government now it's actually working with government involved they could charge a 1000 times the price it costs to make it because they have no competition
So we also agree that the exorbitant profit is the problem. What enables it is of course important to note and you may be right. But being able to agree that it is wrong and needs to be fixed is a good point to agree on. Progress.
I only know of socialized healthcare from family experiences in Canada, I had an uncle die there in 2020 while he was on a 'waiting' list to get help. If that is how government run healthcare is, I'll pass.
Had he been in the states he would probably still be alive, but due to Covid the border was closed. Historically he would use health care in Canada for basic stuff but when it was major would come back to the states to get better, faster healthcare.
I will never support any kind of government run healthcare that has a waiting period along with rationed healthcare.
I would support it, if I could call the doctor today and get in today or tomorrow, and have a legal requirement to get in within a week or they pay 10 grand a day of tax fee income, from the federal government per person per day. Make it soo painful that they pay us enough to go get real healthcare from someone else out of pocket.
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I live in Canada and healthare is free here, it's insane. My sister just gave birth, had an emergency c-section, had multiple lactation experts hospital for 4 days. And it was all free. I visited their room, and it was amazing! Great views too. I was born and raised in the USA, and it's not like that at all even if you are insured (deductibles?). America really does have some of the worst healthcare system in the developed world.
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Look at your taxes and then look at if you mean anything else then basic care that pregnancy actually is try to get cancer treatment you'll be waiting for years and die
Another Canadian here. It's not fucking free at all. My massive taxes paid for that. I'd opt-out and buy private insurance in a second if it was possible. That's why private clinic are illegal in Ontario, because everyone would use them.
That's not true, my aunt had breastcancer and she had free treatment including experimental pills for the past 15 years. We also pay half in taxes what Americans pay in health insurance. So it's cheaper here.
@TylerDurden83 This is a lie, private healthcare in the USA costs twice what you pay in taxes for public health care. And they did a survey and found that the number one most important thing for Canadians is their healthcare system with something like 96% wanting to keep it and only 4% want the American system. Tommy Douglas (the founder of Canada's free healthcare) was voted the most important Canadian ever beating out Wayne Gretzky! Get your facts straight.
And keep in mind people literally die in the USA because they can't afford medicine... Americans are 4 times more likely to die from covid as a Canadian.. four times... their system is broken
Your "pay half in healthcare taxes" line comes from taking total healthcare expenditure and dividing it my the population. But that's obviously an oversimplified look at it. Canada has longer wait times, especially for anything even partly elective, and US patient outcomes are better. Which contributes to it's cost. If you've got the money you're willing to spend on your health then you can come to the US to get high quality healthcare. This health tourism drives up prices due to high demand. With respect to Canada and the US specifically, as Canadian spend money in the US for high quality care, that counts toward US expenditure without adding to the population, which drives up that expenditure/population stat, and it applies to everyone around the world being treated in the US.
@AllThatSweetJazz There are far far more Americans coming to Canada to get cheap drugs than there are Canadians going south. But look at all the outcomes, maternal death, infant mortality, it's ALL better in Canada. Almost no Canadian would want the insane American system.
So we're just going to ignore outcomes for cancer and heart surgery etc, not to mention the wait times for everything? Canadians saying they prefer their healthcare system is different than it actually being better. In terms of outcomes, for most things, you'll want to be in the US.
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I don't know. I think it is wrong for everyone to pay the same for healthcare through taxes because some people are more responsible and take better care of their health, while others are lazy or have bad habits like drug and alcohol use.
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Funny part is the ones doing drugs and alcohol are usually super users as you said and also don't even pay in because they don't usually work or homework. Basically everyone pays drastically more so some drug addict homeless person can get free health care.
Before covid the vast majority of her healthcare was used up by homeless people coming in weekly on drug overdoses
I mean the coverage is still available to everyone equally.
Imagine if I told you that you had to pay for protection through an additional tax. You're having to pay for this protection so you can see justice done for people who are trying to mistreat you. You're having to pay an extra tax just to deal with people who are doing wrong in the first place. How fair is that? Oh wait, that's just the police.
Or what about those extra taxes you pay in order to make up for the idiots who try to fry a turkey and start a fire? YOU were responsible. YOU didn't do dumb stuff that resulted in a housefire. Why should YOU have to pay additional taxes to pay for the... fire department.
Good points. Not to mention, we're over here in America making people new teeth and body organs with 3D printers. While they get told, oh we can't do that surgery in Romania, uh, you have to go to Switzerland for that and it'll cost 10k.
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Yep but very few of them who are active crying about how great it is actually ever uses healthcare. If they do they talk about how horrible it was and then they get turned on by the liberal mob and attacked
Most first world countries have some sort of universal health care. I live in the UK and it if was based in the UK he wouldn't have to pay for a single bit of treatment and if he did die he wouldn't have to worry about he's family being homeless and starving bc the goverment would provide housing and gice them money.
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Literally the same everywhere if you're very poor if you're not very poor you have to pay for the poor people
If you're very poor it's actually free in America if you have insurance it costs you like $400 a month and then I can $8000 deductible.
Is the people going bankrupt are the people who are middle class and cannot afford insurance because they have to pay so the poor people get it for free.
No it's not free or affordable every other place that's a myth People actually come to America because our health care is so much better than pretty much all other countries
Okay am not sure for the free health care if your poor but I've never heard of that. I've heard plenty of poor people getting sick and getting poorer though.
Okay i broke my ankle i was in university and i went to the hospital and didn't have tk takr my wallet out that's how a large majority of countries in Europe work.
And also the US health care actually rates at around 20 in the list in both quality and speed of your health care.
So you pay more than everyone else in world by a large margin and your health care is always out done by my counties health care where if i was still to have a heart attack now i could get my care without becoming backcrupt and have my recover time paid by the goverment.
Yes if you're very poor in America health care is free the majority of health care is actually used by homeless people going in for drug overdoses like weekly.
It costs a lot more in America because we have to pay for a dead weight and we have a lot of it
Oh yes and in the UK everybody works and there is no "dead weight"? Mate there a generations of familys who have never worked and live off benifits and have never paid into the system.
We pay for women with children, disabled people and even people who refuse to work! I have worked full time for only a year and a half and that is more than a lot of my family members have done in there entire lives!
The reason you pay so much is bc your healthcare isn't regulated and its so expensive bc they want to make as much money as possble and not help the most people as possble!
I don't know why you guys deny there is a problem! You can say your county isn't perfect and still be proud of it!
Is America has vastly more because of decades of social programs and illegal immigration that keeps people poor America is actually a very very poor country
Yep a very poor country yet is some how also the riches in the world? Also we have more social programs and we have let in plenty of immigrants.
You keep describing shit that the UK does and the rest of the first world does, but yet we all have afford health care and better goverment ran social programs.
People who believe in stuff like this are idiots who have never been outside of America before and thinks everywhere is amazing but the US. Christopher Keely is too dense to realize if Breaking Bad took place in Canada, Walter White would've died waiting to get treatment.
I don't think you do I literally told you the problem if people are going to get something for free the money has to come from somewhere think about it it comes from everyone else.
Government run healthcare is more efficient than private healthcare, is cheaper, and has better health outcomes. Just look at maternal or infant mortality in Canada vs USA. Private healthcare sucks so much money to "middle-men" bureaucrats insurance companies. In Canada the bill goes straight to government, no middle-men telling you what you can and can't do.
Lol Health care costs tremendously more when government runs it you're adding middlemen in with government not taking them out. The government is a worst middleman because they don't care they'll just raise taxes if they need more money that's why government run health care costs drastically more for everyone other than the very very poor who already get free health care in America
Me sitting here knowing damn well the % of my taxes that go to healthcare plus the money I've spent out of pocket for Dr visits, ER visit, prescriptions is still less than what the average American spends per year just on their insurance plan 😂
Guess you're very poor yes if you're very poor you pay your little taxes Probably an American with the same income as you pay 0 for health care because they're poor and they get free health care that's why health care costs so much in America
Yeah you probably just think you're not poor but probably qualify for a lot of free stuff or actually not making that much money. Basically anyone who makes money government run health care is terrible for them they pay drastically more but failures cheered on because they love stealing from others using the power of government you're a sick and disgusting person you like killing babies and you believe you should be able to steal from others
Pretty sure I've already asked this but how do you think health insurance works? Where does the money come from?
Anyways no I don't qualify for any government hand outs. Especially because my partner works for the government. Definitely not low income. You just gotta accept that you're wrong her bud.
Universal and subsidized healthcare is just cutting out private insurance companies. Instead of giving multi billion dollar companies your money a small % of your tax goes to your healthcare. If you're rich you can just go for private healthcare which they do under the current system anyway.
Is the people paying in the problem is we have a large group of poor people who pay nothing but get free healthcare and be super users that is why health care costs so much you have to pay for the failures who use the most healthcare and pay nothing.
Why is it so hard for liberals to understand if you don't pay for something you do not deserve if a free making everyone else pay more you deserve to go without but you believe in stealing from people and killing babies because anything that makes your life better you should be able to do but anything anyone else wants to do to make their life better is peer evil and the governments who killed them to stop them.
If you're rich and live in the country like yours you have to pay the tax and get private health care because the government run health care is so terrible now you're paying drastically more really get government out of it stop holding guns to people heads and stealing from them you're sick and disgusting
Do you go to parks often? Take public transportation? Are you in the military? Are you in school? Do you think poor people shouldn't be able to use these things at all?
Yes you don't deserve free stuff because you're a failure I don't know why that's hard to understand for liberals but they love to kill and steal after all it's just an excuse
It's called planning ahead and taking care of yourself and being healthy I have never been sick in my entire life the problem is people are very unhealthy because if you're a failure you get taken care of so why be healthy the government will give you free stuff if you're a fat slob living off it
Because the comic is true. You'll notice that the comic does not specifically name America. It references any country with this abhorrent system. Like Korea and Japan, who adopted this system after it was forced on them by America.
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Breaking bad is an American TV show the art reflex the culture
Because it's literally about America Story is based in America You seem to not understand the point is this is how it is everywhere you're not getting in your free health care like you think you are
Again, the show is based in America, but the comic does not say America is the only place this happens. It says any system that makes it a believable story is a terrible system. And no, it is not like that everywhere. In most industrialized nations, healthcare is socialized, so you can get medicine and life-saving procedures for little or no cost to yourself. Your statement is objectively false.
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It’s not true? People die because they can’t afford insulin. I can’t comment on Japan or Korea.
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That the healthcares the same all across the world and actually is better in America. People just think healthcare is bad in America because they don't know any better and believe the myth in health care is free in other countries
Plus, Walt was offered full medical assistance from his DEA agent brother in law in the first season but turned it down. Plus I can’t figure out if his insurance was denied for cancer treatment because he was still employed. But the meme is funny.
It depends when you want to be treated. If you want timely treatment you probably need to go private. Especially now that hospitals are full of Covid patients.
The reason other nations don't have medical bills is because with socialized medicine they prescribed asprin for cancer. Got kidney disease well motrin and water will fix you right up.
We should all have the same healthcare as the president and congress, they work for us
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Yeah but they get their special health care and immunity from laws they pass it's quite hilarious we need to burn down the federal government at this point
It's funny you think democracy works there's a reason why the founding fathers called it rule by the mob and drasically wanted to limit voting Will never happen too many useful idiots who get to vote
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