What is your opinion on Fan-baiting, the practice of corporations using wokeness/'bigotry' as a shield against criticism and poor fan reception?

[MCheetah]

Ever since Ghostbusters 2016 (or Gamergate, if you're unfortunate enough to know what that is), movie studios, gaming journalists, and the mainstream media have been using cries of "sexism/racism/homophobia/bigotry" as a way of virtue-shielding any valid criticism of their bad movies, TV shows, or video games levied against them as just "hateful trolls/bigots" all while getting free publicity from the websites and mainstream media they work with, in the process, and giving their shareholders and investors a "worthy" excuse, when said movie, show, or game completely flops.

What is your opinion on companies using monetizing fake controversy and outrage, and do you think Fan-baiting is effective or profitable for them?

[Fuentes]

Racial Divide to keep their bullshit agenda going and keeping people focused on the Divide then what's really going on and collecting money off it, just so others will fall for the trap & say they wanna prove a "racist" wrong by getting in those movie seats for box office sales and getting the TV ratings up.

They keep ruining good movies and TV shows already orginaly made and giving people of color the hand me down roles for movies and shows knowing damn well it's not even a competition with the orginal.

The new arguments for children at school

Who is the Prettier Ariel the white or black one? And whose the ugly one, and which color had the better movie. starting fights and arguments over something that never needed to be touched on In the first place.

They ruined Halo TV series with the whole Keyes color transformers. They don't know when to stop and these stupid woke idiots don't wake up and see the bigger picture at all. Anything that is racist I stay away from and anything that is woke I stay away from as well fuck their sales.

[Anonymous]

This is what the Left does.

If a woman is a complete idiot and you say so you’re a sexist. If they are Black and you call attention to their incompetency you’re a racist. If you don’t clap when some queer struts around and twerks, you’re a homophobe.

They never make crappy shows, terrible music, or unwatchable movies. Everything they make is groundbreaking. And if you think otherwise, well you’re just a bigot.

No, your show sucks. I’m tired of seeing forced diversity crowbarred into every goddamn story. I’m tired of there having to be a gay relationship in every show. And I’m so goddamn tired of seeing “strong, heroic females” who “don’t need a man.” Yes, because women are really being held back these days 🙄

[BCA6010]

It's pretty obvious that Hollywood especially has been doing this for years now, but I don't think video games really did until The Last of Us 2 came out. Saints Row from what I gather, committed the cardinal sin of taking an established franchise built around over the top vulgar comedy and parody-style writing, threw all of that out and also rebooted the series. If they had a shred of talent that the crew behind SR3 did, they could've easily made a great game that makes fun of insufferable wokesters instead, and it would've done very well with virtually no competition right now.

The thing about the little mermaid, aside from the fact the CGI looks mediocre at best and it's yet another live action remake that doesn't need to exist, is that if Disney hadn't already turned it into a race-baiting controversy even before they had started filming, it would've been totally believable that Bailey got picked because she could nail the singing. The movie seems like it was factory-made for exactly this.

LOTR has already been thoroughly shredded by every YouTube channel on the planet, but my main point about it is that if Amazon wanted a successful series with their "diverse" cast, it should've been a completely original story with very few if any pre-established characters set in Harad, featuring seafaring corsairs and nomads, and most importantly under the direction of capable writers, and actors cast into roles they can more easily run with. A lot of the actors involved clearly have talent, but the direction and dialogue are horrible, and the show is basically screwing everyone involved. This show is almost like they hemorrhaged money to do everything from top to bottom in the worst way possible just so they could cry and counter-accuse about it later.

I'm not really sure what fan-baiters really think they're accomplishing at this point. The jig is up, and everyone knows what they're doing now. Between that and of course the economy, streaming services are losing their appeal as well as their subscriber base.

[MCheetah]

Video games were the FIRST to start doing it back in August 2014 with Zoe Quinn.

I also disagree with Bailey. She doesn't look the part and I don't think she can sing either. Regardless, she wasn't chosen for any "talent" she might have; she was chosen cause her and her sister know Beyoncé and so does the director. I really don't see what everyone else sees in this person. She looks very ugly to me and can't sing.

And they always choose to destroy franchises than make new ones, cause they think the brand name alone can sell the product. This is literally what Disney hoped to do with Star Wars, which is why they were quick to kill off the old cast, except Leia (who they later had no choice to do cause real life), why they *tried* to de-canonize the expanded lore, and why it's only "Star Wars" in name only. They literally just wanted the name recognition to tell their own woke stories with, like buying a fast food franchise like Wendy's and replacing the entire menu with awful-tasting vegan food... Then calling the customers "bigots" when they don't like it.

[ShadezMcgee]

I hate it when they do this shit. It isn't just a bad look as a company, but it also makes it a horrible community within the fandoms ss well. I can't tell you the amount of times I got put to the wall within community fandoms for voicing the things I have about the content, company decisions with shows and responses.

It just turns business away and starts the downward spiral. If you alienate your fanbase and don't respond to criticism that is valid, you are doomed to continue making mistakes and are destined to fail.

[MCheetah]

I just got kicked off of another forum because I said the new She Hulk sucked and they aid I must be a "Trump supporting, white incel" in order to attack She Hulk. It wasn't even a political forum. It'd be like if someone on PornHub called you "an alt-right Nazi" for not liking the Lord of the Rings porn parody (assuming PornHub was still a thing). That forum had such pathetic manginas and bitch-men in it anyway, so I'm not missing much of anything, but it didn't used to be that way even as recently as 2018.

[hahahmm]

I heard two things... 1.) Disney says their Disney plus streaming channel is making insane amounts of money. 2.) An accountant who used to work for Disney has blown the whistle on how they lied and inflated financial numbers for theme parks for many years.

Do the math... I think they fake their numbers all the time and get investment cash from suckers based on that or shift money from projects that have zero woke stuff in them to projects that don't. Lots of ways to play with numbers when you control the books. Hollywood & the music industry in general have been lying about numbers for eons. They used to do it just to steal money from writers/actors/musicians who weren't well connected tho.

[hahahmm]

Similar to how Spotify claimed Meghan Markle/whats-her-name podcast was the most popular ever but the true numbers said it was like #25. Funny how, if your or I lied to pump up a stock we'd get arrested within a week and these corporations can do it for decades.

[Sirenboobzilla]

It's an age old practice. And you hit the nail on the head with Spotify and Megan's podcasts' claims. Every company needs you to believe that they have the best product. It's why you see every advertisement saying "best prices in town" or "rated #1 by experts" and so on. Marketing is a powerful tool. However, as @MCheetah points out, it can run rampant and even alienate a fan base before the product is even sold, and of course after.

[Berethor]

Go woke, go broke, too much SJW crap in the media and games nowadays.

[Filthy_Immigrant]

I think this is just another main tactic used by the left

[KlinkyCoder]

Do corporations even care about their fans a little bit anymore?

[JesseJayNeak]

I hate it with all my guts

[msc545]

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